I prefer David Lee to play PG ASAP.
right, because david lee was drafted as a point guard.
Game 6: 6/23 26%, Game 7: 3/12 25%, in the 2013 NBA Finals. I just gave you your favorite kind of stats. Now go back to slurping Parker more.
The thing with this thread is that most of us already knew this and have been saying it for years, now someone who actually played with parker isn't afraid to speak about it says WHAT WE'VE ING SEEN, he's a "hater"..
I wish you idiots would get it in your heads that he isn't a PG. The Spurs haven't found Tony's successor.
It is funny that Tony is accused of selfish play and "heroballing," yet that is all Jackson ever did (minus 2003 and end of 2012 with Spurs) through his time in the NBA. As much as I liked him, he was the epitome of a player that was selfish, has a poor BBIQ and thought he was better than he really was.
That at ude helped him make the NBA and having a pretty successful career, but it also led to him getting thrown out on his ass every place he played.
Let's compare statistics to see who was more efficient, unselfish and smart.
Career statistics () = postseason
FG%:
Tony Parker: .494 (.460)
Stephen Jackson - .414 (.404)
Career Assist %:
TP - 32.5 (27.8)
SJax - 16.4 (14.4)
USG%:
TP - 25.4 (27.4)
SJax - 24.2 (21.9)
TO%:
TP: 13.9 (13.3)
SJax: 14.6 (17.0)
Last edited by J_Paco; 08-11-2016 at 04:56 AM.
Game 6: 19/8/3 (including 2 of the clutchest shots in Finals history)
"The Bulls want me."
Dumbass, you're comparing player who have TOTALLY different roles.
In any case, Stephen Jackson OUTPLAYED MVP Dirk in '07 meanwhile Porker couldn't outplay ROOKIE Devin Harris in '06.
If you go back to 2003 when they were BOTH starter on the same team, Jack had a higher value-over replacement than Porker who was rated as a replacement level player in the postseason.
Porker had a team WORST -17 on/off number during the '03 postseason, meaning they were 17 points worse w/ him on the floor.
What's worse is that he got outplayed by Mario "scrub" Chalmers in Gm 2 BEFORE he even re-aggravated his hamstring.
Chris Paul meanwhile was taking a shyt on Porker playing on one leg.
My mother is currently bald from chemo treatments for cancer. Doubt she makes it through her third round of treatments.
Good comeback for a 10 year old though. You are clearly a highly intelligent person. These witty your mom comments are very impressive. Your repertoire is very diverse.
Last edited by rastaspur; 08-11-2016 at 07:09 PM.
Wait, did you honestly just champion Stephen Jackson's '07 run and leave out the fact that Parker won FMVP that year? Lol, wow.Dumbass, you're comparing player who have TOTALLY different roles.
In any case, Stephen Jackson OUTPLAYED MVP Dirk in '07 meanwhile Porker couldn't outplay ROOKIE Devin Harris in '06.
If you go back to 2003 when they were BOTH starter on the same team, Jack had a higher value-over replacement than Porker who was rated as a replacement level player in the postseason.
Porker had a team WORST -17 on/off number during the '03 postseason, meaning they were 17 points worse w/ him on the floor.
Oh and by the way, why don't you ever post stats to back your claims? Oh, here's why:
Spurs/Mavs 2006:
Tony Parker: 20/4/3
Devin Harris: 13/3/2
2003 NBA Finals:
Tony Parker: 14/4/3
Speedy Claxton: 6/2/1
If you want to start claiming that guys with less than half of the other player's production "outplayed" them based on certain advanced stats, then please be consistent and say that Boban was our best player in the playoffs.
Last edited by SASdynasty!; 08-12-2016 at 08:34 AM.
2013 NBA Finals:What's worse is that he got outplayed by Mario "scrub" Chalmers in Gm 2 BEFORE he even re-aggravated his hamstring.
Chris Paul meanwhile was taking a shyt on Porker playing on one leg.
Tony Parker: 16/6 on 41%
Mario Chalmers: 11/3 on 39%
2014 NBA Finals:
Tony Parker: 18/5 on 48%
Mario Chalmers: 4/3 on 33%
So shut up about Mario Chalmers outplaying Parker in the Finals. It didn't happen. If you want to pick one or two games, apply that standard to every other player in the league and you'll find that everyone gets outplayed in individual games. If you're not smart enough to understand that, I'm sorry. Really sorry.
If you really want to compare Chalmers, then use Ginobili...the production is a lot closer.
Oh and as for Chris Paul, how about the 2012 playoffs (both in their prime) where Parker swept Paul while laughing on the bench when the Spurs were down 20+ because he knew we'd be fine when he came back in.
Tony Parker: 17/8/3 (on less minutes)
Chris Paul: 13/9/4
Unlike you cherry-picking individual games, I'll use entire series for my arguments.
Last edited by SASdynasty!; 08-12-2016 at 08:48 AM.
Honest question dynasty: where do you rank porker all time on the Spurs?
He is losing it.
Name me a point guard that has been outplayed by Mario "scrub" Chalmers in 3 postseason games?
Porker got outplayed in Gm 2/6/7, Chalmers wetting the bed when Danny/Neal are going off is irrelevant b/c he could have dropped 30 & it wouldn't have mattered.
Duncan
Robinson
Parker
Ginobili
Leonard
Gervin
Silas
Elliott
Bowen
Kenan
Robertson
Gilmore
Horry
AJ
*as Spurs, min 5 seasons
Last edited by SASdynasty!; 08-12-2016 at 05:13 PM.
Pretty good list tbh. Would rank Gervin 4th and Bowen 6th
Porker over Manu
Good list. I'd keep it exactly as is but move Gervin up to 3.
If it were a draft and each player were available as a rookie it would go Duncan, Robinson, Gervin, and Gilmore.
I'm having fun at your huge meltdownYou saw the stats dumbass, easily the best Spur on the team and it ain't close. By the way the refs robbed the Spurs in Game 6, but you probably weren't a fan then
Parker outplayed Westbrick. Kiwi got benched by Stephen Jackson and got out scored by 20ppg!!!!!!! against Durant. 20. Twenty. Two-Zero.
Not even Jordan could carry a system player like that past OKC
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