i see s here are getting pretty tight, resorting to goal scoring arguments, bringing the maradona '86 talk and all of that. that's good sons tbh.
first of all maradona '86 is definately a crazy run, much respect for diego, a real tbh.
now the very purpose of playing football is winning and winning at the highest level. That means world cups not some UCLs where there are 3 contenders each year. The WC winners aren't the ones putting 7 past their opponents (well, sometimes
) but the ones able to get that 1-0 win against tough matchups. And WCs are rare, a player gets to play in 2-3 world cups, very rarely more, so there is no place for pussyfooting or dyeing ones hair. Real GOATs (zidane, maradona) done their job at world cups while misty lucked one finals where he didn't do . Real GOATs do 4 contender runs like in '06, they don't choke b2b finals minor league finals to chile
That's why I value zidane and maradona over missy, because at the highest level they will outplay/organize/lead/score for their team, control the midfield and playmake from deep, be a goal threat, do everything necessary to win. Missi is frozen out of huge games, that's reality. The time fur pussying around the bush is over s, missy needs to make his mark, winning UCLs in a 3-league compe ions isn't enough. Scoring 60 goals against lower tier opponents is a beauty, zidane wouldn't be able to do that, but he didn't have to. The GOATs aren't the statpadders but the ones that produce at the highest level.
How did missy's 60 goals a season translate into world cup finals goals? you talk about missy goalscoring prowess, where was it? explain me this s. Meanwhile the goalscoring inept zidane scored 3 goals in world cup finals and they hold more legacy than ALL of missy's goals put together. Who gives a about 60 goals per season when you can't do it against real opposition?
I won't even talk about WC/EC goals scored/created vs contenders because it's even more in favor of zidane.
Compare zidane's impact in final tournaments vs maradona's impact and you'll see zidane does better (maradona is still a monster!)
Compare zidane's impact in final tournaments to misty's impact and tell me with a straight face who is the goat. Who faced the tougher teams? Who won? Who scored the critical goals? Who created the critical occasions? Who dragged their team in tough matches? Who rose up for the challenge? Who got the ovations? Who provided leadership?
For extra
compare zidane and missi in finals output.
TLDR:
messi -> statpads against trash teams and has only one knockout win vs a 1st tier ('14 netherlands). he hasn't scored nor created a goal in any final. he QUITPERIOD after chile beat him b2b. Outside of the pitch he enjoys looking like bieber and cheating on his taxes. known as missi/misty, because in huge games he misses and cries a lot
zidane -> winner of WC, EC, 3 decisive goals in finals, has COUNTLESS wins over 1st tiers. Even came out of retirement to lead an otherwise unqualifying france to world cup glory going through a legendary bracket. Outside of the pitch he is a highly respected human being and already a led coach. known as GOAT.
lmao y'all s gonna come up with some new angle about missi goals vs honduras or how he dominated nigeria or some like that tbh