If Westbrook has a say and forces a trade to the Spurs, than OKC is gonna have to accept that and Spurs need to include like 2 or 3 seasons of potential picks with that to sweeten the deal. He would have to extend for the Spurs to trade them Parker and Mills, picks, etc.
He doesn't.
He can't.
He'll not extend with anyone. This is what makes the deal really complicated for OKC. If he had a list of teams he'd be willing to extend with they'd work it out quickly but there's no way he's that stupid. Or at least his agent wouldn't be.
I mean, if they trade Westbrook right now, Presti has to quit on the spot, right?
Man I wish Brett Brown would do us a solid, and take Parker. Spurs get Westbrook. OKC gets Okafor, Murray, Anderson, Milutinov and three first round picks from the Spurs. Sixers get Parker and Kanter.
Philly has a lineup of:
Embiid/Kanter
Noel/Landry
Simmons/Saric
Stauskas/Henderson
Parker/Bayless or Rodriguez
Not a bad team for the sixers.
Simmons will play the 4. They need to get rid of some front court depth. Not add to it.
Why? What's he supposed to be doing right now?
Yeah, it's not Presti's fault his franchise player bolted for a 73-9 team and took the easy path to victory. Westbrook if he won't extend has to go, because of Durant's decision they are in full rebuild mode now. Losing Durant to that team is like the Spurs losing Duncan, Parker, Ginobili in one season. So it's all down the toilet for OKC now since Westbrook won't extend.
Poor OKC
Durant has left OKC in ruins and they may never recover, stick in the wilderness like Utah for well over a decade so far. He ed that fan base hard.
Actually I would say he does have a say and can force their hand. Take the two scenarios (assuming they need to trade him which is all but a definitive):
The first they trade him to a team that he refuses to sign an extension with. That team knows it's a rental with a very slim chance to resign so they don't offer much return value.
The second scenario involves Westbrook giving them a list of teams he would agree to sign extensions with. Those teams go into a bidding war for his services and the thunder get much better return value.
In the case where her only says he'll sign with one team he really cripples the thunder because now they have to balance playing hardball while still getting him to that team by the deadline.
He actually has a lot more power than your post implies.
Convincing Russ to stay by making the moves to put a compe ive team built around him and selling him on an long-term plan to stay in OKC? Isn't that his job?
You could say it's not all Presti's fault, but to some degree it is.
RC was talking a week ago or so, how they completely screwed up with Tim when he almost goes to Orlando, and they were fortunate that other factors helped them right that wrong. So that's one of their jobs, selling a long-term vision that seduces their top talent to stick around. Even if you could always argue that losing KD was on outlier, at some point if they can't keep Russ either, then it's not an outlier anymore.
a great talent but an asshole who would be tolerated by Pop for about negative 10 minutes.
At least Westbrook is giving OKC an opportunity to get SOMETHING in return.
I seriously doubt that Westbrook will agree to sign an extension to help Facilitate a trade. Westbrook is probably looking forward to having multiple NBA teams kissing his ass and begging him to sign a contract during his unrestricted free agency in the off-season. Any team that is willing to trade for him at this point will only get a 1 year rental.
The only players that OKC would want in any trade with San Antonio for Westbrook are players that San Antonio would not be willing to give up for a 1 year rental. OKC is not going to trade Westbrook for Tony Parker and spare parts.
well can't we just give them parker for draft picks next year?
I know it's old news at this point, but with this officially not even a possibility and with Paul always destined to be a long shot too, this is how the back court situation probably plays out in '17 . . .
Ginobili retires and after a failed stab at Paul, they turn to Teodosic, who once again recently professed his desire to come to the NBA after next season and play for either the Spurs or the Jazz. It would take a series of unlikely events for the Jazz to have a need, so expect him to end up a Spur.
http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/26...ke-to-play-for
Teodosic makes Paddy Mills look like a wizard on Defense. He's useless.
Traffic cone >>>>>>> Patty Mills >>>>> ElNono 's grandmother >>>>> Stephen Hawking >>>>>>> Teodosic
This isn't about whether people want them to sign him or not, it's about whether they will or not and there's no reason to think they won't.
Expect him to be the sixth man in '17-'18, playing roughly 20 mpg and playing point guard on offense, while defending shooting guards.
Teodosic is showing the whole world that he doesn't belong in the NBA with his poignantly woeful defense. He might get a training camp invite from the Spurs but I can't see any scenario in which he makes the team.
If the Spurs strike out on CP3 and they will, there are still options like MCW, Jeff Teague and Jrue Holiday, who I'm sure the Spurs would look at first before they'd be desperate enough to lift up the barrel and scrape two feet under to take a player like Teodosic.
Spurs might be better off signing the traffic cone to one year contract and Try the free agency thing again in 2018.
Teams have been trying to lure him over for years. According to Stein, the Grizzlies offered him 2 years and roughly $5M in '13. With the cap exploding since then and a similar player of similar age, in Rodriguez, signing for $8M this off season, there's no reason to think he won't command a salary in that range.
I can't see them having any interest in Carter-Williams, Teague will likely re-sign and Holiday, I'm skeptical as to whether they'd offer what it would take to have a chance to sign him given his injury history and the fact that he's good, but not great.
This is similar to Aldridge and Gasol, in that too much adds up to think there's not a good chance of it happening.
Last I heard Teodosic does not want to come to the NBA and sit in the bench. He wants a large role, lots of minutes, etc... so the Spurs are certainly not in his list.
Are you talking about Teodosic possibly replacing manu, which would a catastrophic move IMO or Paddy who's also a free agent? The Spurs need some stability going forward and if they end up re-signing Paddy, can you even fathom a backcourt pairing of Mills and Teodisic?A second unit consisting of Dedmon, KA, Bertans, Mills and Teodisic would go down as one of the worst defensive rotations for the Spurs since the turn of the 21st century.
Why revive this thread?
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