Tony: "I Want to Play 5 More Years with the Spurs"

[RD2191]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Damn, going in raw.

[dabom]

Brazil ElNono

[dabom]

Someone make this guy a MOD. I mean he can't be double bolded can he?

[Diego20]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

omg

Give this dude the key of San Antonio

[TD 21]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

Only the casual/antiquated crowd overrates Parker and he'd have still had a better career than Williams had he played elsewhere because he was clearly more committed, as evidenced by his best seasons coming 11 and 12 years into his career.

People always bring up the '03-'06 playoffs, but not the fact that he was not in his prime yet and obviously he hasn't been from '14 on either. From '07-'14, is where he should really be judged.

He became about as good as possible for a player with his physical limitations and a sub par - mediocre three-point shot. He was never going to be as effective against playoff defenses or post prime as Duncan and Ginobili, for all the obvious reasons.

[K...]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

Congrats on your cherry picking expo.

Parker sucks on the playoffs because he's short. Every offensive pg known has had similar experiences. Teams packed the paint and sometimes this team has shooters to get eat open shots, sometimes they didn't forcing tp to have to freelance.

I mean it's not like he didn't eat regular season minutes "but the playoffs are all the matters" yes for all time greats. No for mid tier stars.

It's ok to be a player fan. You're not alone there. But don't make one sided arguments and believe you hit a truth nuke.

[dabom]

All Enriqueporker fans on suicide watch.

[K...]

All Enriqueporker fans on suicide watch.

Bro those memes don't even fit together. Settle down and take your ADD medicine

[Clipper Nation]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

[BillMc]

Still better than Clooney

[MVPCues]

Still better than Clooney

Solid take.

[SPURt]

Still better than Clooney

Totally agree! Lol!

[spursistan]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

[AFBlue]

i can't stand when people bring up how good he used to be to justify him continuing to start.

not only should he be coming off the bench but he needs to change his style of play as well.

Coming off the bench in favor of who exactly? Don't disagree that he needs to adjust his game and defer more often to Kawhi and LMA, but he's the best PG option on the team currently...and it's not close.

[benefactor]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

[kaji157]

ESPN released a ranking of international players based on possible WARP projection.

The list ranks Pau Gsol at #7 and snubs all other Spurs, but whats really worring is the last part of the article where they say and i quote:

Notable omissions
21. Goran Dragic; 22. Tristan Thompson; 23. Marcin Gortat; 27. Andrew Bogut; 28. Manu Ginobili; 29. Patty Mills; 34. Luol Deng; 42. Andrew Wiggins; 57. Ben Simmons; 75. Emmanuel Mudiay; 81. Tony Parker.

The Insiders piece can be read here if you have ESPN Insider pass:
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/17304976

Or here if you don´t (you have to pass a captcha):
http://insider2text.xyz/articles/0e5034d4ca4168d1

Special thanx to the http://insider2text.xyz/ tool.

[timtonymanu]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

So many truth bombs. Where's sasdynasty with his weak arguments buh buh PPG, leading in assists etc.

[timtonymanu]

If Parker does last that long, I really hope he's willing to come off the bench after his current contract expires. If he's not going to accept that, let him walk.

[SAGirl]

ESPN released a ranking of international players based on possible WARP projection.

The list ranks Pau Gsol at #7 and snubs all other Spurs, but whats really worring is the last part of the article where they say and i quote:


The Insiders piece can be read here if you have ESPN Insider pass:
http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/17304976

Or here if you don´t (you have to pass a captcha):
http://insider2text.xyz/articles/0e5034d4ca4168d1

Special thanx to the http://insider2text.xyz/ tool.

Hey Kaji, thanks for sharing. Might Gobert be too high on that list? Yea, Patty and Manu are not that high in that list and Tony at 81 is abysmal.

[T Park]

I'll stop watching the Spurs and hope Kawhi gets traded. No lie.

Then you were never a fan. Adios. Hit the road.

[DeRozan m8]

Not going to get into all the bull from the usual "Kawhi Leonard Circle Jerk/Tony Parker Haters Clubs."

Theres no club, its called having an opinion.

The reason its a popular opinion is because the things said have merit.

Cheers

[SASdynasty!]

Tony Parker has had a blessed career, a good career and I'm thankful for what he's done on the court for the Spurs.

However, he's overrated.

In the years Spurs realistically contended for a le, Parker has came up short again and again.

03' he won a ring but couldn't handle competing vs. Kidd and Speedy saved his ass.

04' vs. LA, Tony the bed after game 2 for 4 straight games vs. Payton.

05' He won a ring, but he rode Manu on steroids and TD. Parker was average at best that playoff run, nothing special.

06' Devin Harris. Need I say more?

07' Cherry picked the MVP from Duncan -- who was the MVP for the Suns series and the whole playoff run. Parker benefited and stat padded vs. the matchup he had against Boobie Gibson for 4 games. His Finals MVP doesn't mean much.

08- 10' Spurs were transitioning and didn't have a shot at a le.

11' Mike Conley ate him alive in the 1st round.

12' TP disappeared after game 2 vs. OKC much like the Lakers series in 04'.

13' Went 6 for 23 in game 6 of the Finals and went 3 for 12 in game 7.

14' Greatest Spurs team ever, yes Parker won a ring, but he wasn't a big reason why they won it. He ranked in the bottom half of the team in just about every advanced metric that year.

15' He had a 14' hangover and came into the year 10 pounds over weight. Never improved physically and he the bed the entire 2nd half of the season.

Parker will go down as the best PG in team history but that's not saying much at all. In all honesty, his career would have been like Deron Williams career if it wasn't for TD and Manu.

Any Parker fan boy can point to his PPG all they want, but he doesn't hold Manu or TDs jock in my eyes. Manu and TD are, and forever will be, legends of not just the Spurs but the game of basketball. Parker is, and forever will be, below that.

Literally every one of your statements is either blatantly wrong or obviously misleading. I just have time for a few examples to start:

2007 - Parker outplays Lebron in the Finals (the first player ever to do that and one of 3 that ever will)...a list that does not include Ginobili or Duncan.

2011 - Parker outplays Conley, but can't make up for the disparity between Duncan and Randolph:

Parker: 20/5 on 46%
Conley: 14/6 on 40%

Duncan: 13/11 on 48%
Randolph: 22/9 on 50%

2013 - Parker outplays Curry in the 2nd round, and then absolutely destroys Conley in the WCF to make sure Duncan doesn't choke another playoffs away against Randolph:

Parker: 25/10/4 on 53%
Conley: 15/6/4 on 38%

2014 - Parker carries the Spurs into the playoffs, saves them in their only elimination game, and carries the weight of the team like no other player except for Duncan in 2003 in a le run. Parker is literally the only All-Star on the team. He is literally the only All-NBA player. He leads the team in scoring and assists in the regular season AND playoffs. And in the Finals he carries the scoring load and closes out the series with one of the best 4th quarters in Finals history, securing the championship that some players literally gave to the Heat the year before.

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As usual, you don't post any stats at all and say things like "Parker got eaten alive by Conley in 2011." How dumb can you honestly be? Do you honestly think people are going to believe you? The funniest part about it is that the whole krew actually does because they also don't know facts, just statements. Good job in continuing to show how ridiculously biased you are against Parker to the point where you actually use all the wrong series to make your points. What's next? You going to use 2008 against Phoenix to say Nash outplayed Parker?

[SASdynasty!]

A plea to the krew: at some point you guys need to start using stats in your arguments. I know it takes time and effort, but it really helps you make your points. There are plenty of playoff series you can use to discredit Parker (just like any player), but if you don't know stats or don't really remember the series correctly, then you just end up looking dumb to actual Spurs fans because you use all the wrong series.

Here's a good example. You're really not going to want to use 2012 against OKC. Here's why:

Parker: 22/6 on 48%
Westbrook: 18/7 on 38%

What you need to say is that Parker really needed to outplay Westbrook by even more to make up for the rest of the team. If you say it that way, people might actually take you seriously.

[dbreiden83080]

Needs the money I guess..

[Diego20]

Literally every one of your statements is either blatantly wrong or obviously misleading. I just have time for a few examples to start:

2007 - Parker outplays Lebron in the Finals (the first player ever to do that and one of 3 that ever will)...a list that does not include Ginobili or Duncan.

2011 - Parker outplays Conley, but can't make up for the disparity between Duncan and Randolph:

Parker: 20/5 on 46%
Conley: 14/6 on 40%

Duncan: 13/11 on 48%
Randolph: 22/9 on 50%

2013 - Parker outplays Curry in the 2nd round, and then absolutely destroys Conley in the WCF to make sure Duncan doesn't choke another playoffs away against Randolph:

Parker: 25/10/4 on 53%
Conley: 15/6/4 on 38%

2014 - Parker carries the Spurs into the playoffs, saves them in their only elimination game, and carries the weight of the team like no other player except for Duncan in 2003 in a le run. Parker is literally the only All-Star on the team. He is literally the only All-NBA player. He leads the team in scoring and assists in the regular season AND playoffs. And in the Finals he carries the scoring load and closes out the series with one of the best 4th quarters in Finals history, securing the championship that some players literally gave to the Heat the year before.

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As usual, you don't post any stats at all and say things like "Parker got eaten alive by Conley in 2011." How dumb can you honestly be? Do you honestly think people are going to believe you? The funniest part about it is that the whole krew actually does because they also don't know facts, just statements. Good job in continuing to show how ridiculously biased you are against Parker to the point where you actually use all the wrong series to make your points. What's next? You going to use 2008 against Phoenix to say Nash outplayed Parker?

Now TP is better than Duncan..