Sounds like he's noh......'not over himself.'
Agreed. It's hard to say if that rumor is even true. Like TD 21 said it's already going to be tough to keep Lee happy bc Pop will undoubtedly give minutes to his younger players during the season and experiment anyways. Adding another veteran would affect Lee the most and make it even more complicated for him to get minutes bc the younger players will get the same dleague, garbage time and strategic minutes mix regardless depending how well they play.
Another undersized PF to get dominated by Adams and Kanter
MMMM pass
A lower tier playoff team. *yawn* so who cares. The best teams are small.
When you get over the limit on player numbers, choosing the right guy for the same position can be important. See July 2002: Ginobili over Giricek.
I don't see him getting bullied by Dary. Green thou...... Sooioo but with David Lee, I don't see why they would want him. Unless Anderson is gettin traded.
Mirotic is a shooter, so he fits with Pau just fine. While Gasol might be able to spot up for three, you don't want him spacing the floor for Lee. It'd be like Kawhi spacing for Parker. And LMA was plenty fine for a defensive center, especially against bench units.If you think Lee playing center is a good idea then might as well open up a layup line when he's the last line of defense.(I'm assuming that you aren't suggesting that LMA play center while Pau/Dedmon play together)
Mirotic started alongside Pau so Lee shouldn't be any worse against backups w/ Pau protecting the rim.
As far as my preferred units, I want the Spurs to play small with their bench with Lee as the fifth big. I really like the Anderson/Bertans forward combo, and if Garino makes the team, he'd be another option along with Simmons to rotate in there. I want a return of four out, one in like with Neal, Manu, back-up three, Bonner and Splitter units.
Considering the Spurs have had to replace the majority of their Bigs (5 of 7), if they don't want to replace a "Big" slot with a Wing, then someone experienced (like a Landry) would make more sense to me than Jean-Charles. Jean-Charles is a projjjjjjjjjjjjjjject. Another Wing makes more sense to me since Anderson is filling Diaw's role now. Anderson was a swing 3/4 last season. Jean-Charles is not an NBA Wing, so he goes to Austin. Sorry.
Slot changes (not roles but slots)
Duncan -> Gasol
Aldridge -> Aldridge
Diaw -> Jean-Charles
West -> Lee
Marjanovich -> Dedmon
Bonner -> Bertans
Anderson (3/4) -> Anderson
Last edited by Solid D; 09-05-2016 at 10:30 PM.
Slots are irrelevant though, it's about roles.
Roles: Last year vs. This year
Starters
Duncan -- Gasol
Aldridge -- Aldridge
3rd and 4th big in rotation
West -- Dedmon
Diaw -- Anderson or Lee or Carl Landry?
5th & 6th bigs (Garbage minutes/ Injury fill ins/ 2nd of back to back rest minutes if Gasol or Alridge sits out)
Boban -- Anderson/ Lee/ Landry?
Bonner -- Livio Jean Charles
Bertans will be replacing Martin on the wing (Bertans is more of a SF -- his game isn't like Bonners (a better comparable is Dunleavy -- just not as good?). Murray will be replacing McCallum or Miller as the third PG.
Livio will be replacing Bonner as the last big (PF) on the roster. Instead of him being in a suit most of the year in San Antonio, he'll be in Austin.
Diaw was the 3rd big. Gasol will be able to take on much more than the 25 mpg Duncan was able to muster.
Roles also evolve. We have a lot of big's that are mobile now and likely will adjust our style. You can say '3rd big' or whatever but I can see them playing differently as opposed to the days when we would trot out Duncan, Baynes, and the like. We're likely to see Popovich do lot of tinkering with all manner of lineups to see what works. He always does this but I anticipate it being moreso this season.
Spurs coaching staff has said they will play Bertans at the 4 and played him there in SL. He will likely play the stretch 4 role that Horry and Bonner played when they were in the rotation; Pop loves that role. Most teams don't have two post scorers off the bench so I don't see post defense as a problem if he is paired with Dedmon.
Diaw and West were both 3rd bigs at different times according to match ups. Arguing over which was which is silly. I've also mentioned in many threads about Gasol being able to play more minutes than Duncan did in his last year.
Bertans won't play the Horry role or the Bonner role (when Bonner was the 3rd or 4th big in the rotation). Bertans will play the 4 only if the other team goes small too with a SF at the PF spot. And most of those minutes will come during garbage time, 2nd of back to back (when there's 2 or 3 guys who rest) or if there's significant amount of injuries. However, when compe ion is tight and when no one rests or if no one is injured, Bertans will be competing with Simmons and Anderson for the back up SF minutes vs. traditional lineups ( he's not going to be the 3rd or 4th big like Horry or prime Bonner). If he's going to have a relevant role when it matters, it will have to come at the back up SF spot -- if he beats out Simmons and Anderson.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 09-06-2016 at 12:12 AM.
Yes, roles and match ups...except for my purposes of showing the number of Bigs last season vs. this season - since Aldridge and Anderson stayed put, although Anderson's role may change/morph.
The point is maybe having 6 Bigs instead of 7 this season.
I worry about drop-off. But from an academic standpoint, a Landry acquisition has merit.
if Leonard or Simmons are injured, it would be nice to at least have a Wing with defensive acuity (in addition to Manu or Green) to fill in. Garino is an option to do that but he'll need to prove himself worthy in camp.
Bonner started at one point. The team has said Bertans will play the 4. You have no idea how things will shake out and feigning certainty is a good way to end up wrong. You're theorycrafting is meaningless as to what Pop will actually decide to do.
He was specifically told by the Spurs he's going to be a 4. I don't know if you saw that and if you didn't I will look it up and share that interview he gave later, but he specifically said the Spurs want him to play the stretch 4 role.
Also, I suspect the 3 in the Spurs is really changing. They already revamped it for Kawhi so Bertans needs to learn how to play the 4 regardless. The Spurs sets have been redesigned to get Kawhi the ball in spots he likes and he may be becoming more ball dominant.
And in the bench, they run something different bc it was designed for Manu, but it should be in flux, quite simply bc Manu is old and soon to retire and the Spurs need to experiment and look around at the other guys they have developed. One of them is a RFA next summer and the other they need to know what they have there for sure (to evaluate any possible trades or to resign him--the worst possible outcome is for him to go like Cojo in every possible way). It's possible Pop wants one or both of these guys to get all bench minutes at the 3, provided they earn them again
Besides LJC, I can't think of a player the team can more afford to lose than Simmons. Dude certainly isn't part of the defensive equation. If Garino makes the team, he'll be above Jonathon in the three-and-D pecking order.
Thanks for mentioning that. The statement was so incorrect, but decided not to reply to Solid D bc ppl assume I have an agenda against JSimms and I do not.
I don't know what Jsimms Solid D has been watching but Simmons was a foul machine most of the time and it was that ultimately, and overall bad defense that got him benched. If he can't improve on that he's likely in trouble with the Spurs. I would venture that's probably one of the single most important things they want to see him improve on.
Haha, well Simmons isn't a great defender - certainly the worst of the rotation of Leonard, Green, Manu, and himself among wings with size, but my emphasis wasn't on Simmons, it was on getting an additional wing with some defensive acuity.
That's probably not the best reason for not replying directly...if you replied indirectly.
I don't know what Jsimms Solid D has been watching but Simmons was a foul machine most of the time and it was that ultimately, and overall bad defense that got him benched. If he can't improve on that he's likely in trouble with the Spurs. I would venture that's probably one of the single most important things they want to see him improve on.
I think he's worst than Anderson by a noticeable amount, in my opinion. Simmons' D is bad to the point that I literally wouldn't bat an eye if Mills or Bertans took his assignments. I support the idea of getting another defender the same as you do. I just see the guy as a complete non-factor at this point.
Okay, and that's fine. If the Spurs think Simmons isn't worth keeping, I'm sure they will act accordingly. At this point, I'm still assuming he's there.
Yeah, I think he makes the team unless both Garino and another guard impress. He's a decent enough fifth wing, and he still has a needed skill-set. I would be wary of re-signing him, though. I definitely think he should be behind Mills in priority for next summer. Murray projects better as a two next to Patty than as a one next to Simmons, in my opinion.
Maybe I'm just kidding myself to think the Spurs really intend to use Anderson more as a Big (and less elsewhere) this coming season. He's a pretty unique and variable asset.
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