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    I've already come out on the side of unisex bathrooms. But I think the term "countless" is being used a little liberally there. We're not talking about the number of atoms in the universe here. That law probably hurts 2,000 people a day at most (yes, yes compared to the 0 or near-0 people who would be hurt if the law were repealed).
    Lol nitpicking over hyperbole

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    Lol nitpicking over hyperbole
    That's exactly what I'm calling it, yes.

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    That's exactly why I'm loling. I'll add a smh too.

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    Hillary Clinton: Boycotting North Carolina Is Noble and Just; Boycotting Israel Is Bigoted and Hateful


    Hillary Clinton, in a June 2, 2015, letter to billionaire donor and Israel supporter Haim Saban:

    “I am writing to express my alarm over the boycott, divestment, and sanction [BDS] movement. … I know you agree that we need to make countering BDS a priority. … I am seeking your advice on how we can work together — across party lines and with a diverse array of voices — to reverse this trend with information and advocacy, and fight back against further attempts to isolate and delegitimize Israel. … Particularly at a time when anti-Semitism is on the rise across the world — especially in Europe — we need to repudiate forceful efforts to malign and undermine Israel and the Jewish people.”

    Hillary Clinton, speaking to AIPAC on March 21, 2016:

    “Many of the young people here today are on the front lines of the battle to oppose the alarming boycott, divestment, and sanctions movement known as BDS. Particularly at a time when anti-Semitism is on the rise across the world, especially in Europe, we must repudiate all efforts to malign, isolate, and undermine Israel and the Jewish people. I’ve been sounding the alarm for a while now. As I wrote last year in a letter to the heads of major American Jewish organizations, we have to be united in fighting back against BDS.”

    Hillary Clinton, today:


    Could someone explain why it’s noble, enlightened, justifiable, and progressive to boycott an American state, but hateful, bigoted, retrograde, and evil to support a boycott of a foreign country that has been imposing a brutal, discriminatory, and illegal occupation for many decades, a boycott that is led by people with virtually no political rights? How did that happen? Hillary Clinton is far from the only person espousing this bizarre distinction — New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, as but one example, is punishing companies that support a boycott of Israel while forcing state employees to honor the boycott of North Carolina — but what could possibly justify U.S. politicians drawing the moral and ethical lines about boycotts in this manner?
    https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/...d-and-hateful/

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    Largest-ever US military aid package to go to Israel

    The Obama administration is upping aid to Israel as part of the largest pledge of military assistance in US history.

    Israel is set to get about $38 billion over 10 years, according to congressional and administration sources, up from the approximately $30 billion decade-long deal that expires in 2018.

    The Memorandum of Understanding sealing the arrangement will be signed Wednesday at the State Department.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politi...d-package-mou/

    aka "corporate welfare" for and redistribution upwards to the MIC, but USA can't increase the Fed minimum wage to $15+, will not pass a Federal law requiring 6+ months of paid maternity leave like every other industrial country.


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    That's exactly why I'm loling. I'll add a smh too.
    It's good that we can lol at the same things. Shows progress in our interaction.

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    It's good that we can lol at the same things. Shows progress in our interaction.
    I'm laughing at you. I doubt you're laughing at you too.

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    I'm laughing at you. I doubt you're laughing at you too.
    I do fancy myself hilarious. But I think at this point we're laughing at the absurd jab you made. You're laughing because you think it's apt, and I'm laughing because it's poorly thought-out and ridiculous. Still, it's the same thing.

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    I do fancy myself hilarious. But I think at this point we're laughing at the absurd jab you made. You're laughing because you think it's apt, and I'm laughing because it's poorly thought-out and ridiculous. Still, it's the same thing.
    I didn't make a joke. I just said I'm loling at your nitpicking.

    Now I'm laughing at your attempt to reverse lol.

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    I didn't make a joke. I just said I'm loling at your nitpicking.

    Now I'm laughing at your attempt to reverse lol.
    I didn't say a joke. I said a jab. It's not my fault you are trying to be as passive as possible about it.

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    Lol trying to reverse jab.

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    A new Department of Defense policy, which takes effect in October, lays out processes under which service members may transition. Under the policy, "service members with a diagnosis from a military medical provider indicating that gender transition is medically necessary will be provided medical care and treatment for the diagnosed medical condition." It is not clear if or how the policy applies to inmates like Manning.

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    When is gender transition treatment "medically necessary?"

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    When is gender transition treatment "medically necessary?"
    That seems like something you should ask a military medical provider.

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    That seems like something you should ask a military medical provider.
    You know one?

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    When is gender transition treatment "medically necessary?"
    I'm guessing here it would be when it's psychologically beneficial to the patient? I would suspect this is normally handled by mental health professionals...

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    I'm guessing here it would be when it's psychologically beneficial to the patient? I would suspect this is normally handled by mental health professionals...
    The literal answer to Vy's half dead bait is alway a

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    I've already come out on the side of unisex bathrooms. But I think the term "countless" is being used a little liberally there. We're not talking about the number of atoms in the universe here. That law probably hurts 2,000 people a day at most (yes, yes compared to the 0 or near-0 people who would be hurt if the law were repealed).
    if it really is 2000 then it's already near zero

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    if it really is 2000 then it's already near zero
    That's sort of my point. I understand that the law sucks and that if you can avoid hurting 2000 people that it makes sense to do so. But the "countless" claim is kinda of silly. Maybe the unreliability of self-reporting on this matter makes it hard/impossible to count. But as far as the data shows, this is still a fringe group being harmed/inconvenienced here.

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    That's sort of my point. I understand that the law sucks and that if you can avoid hurting 2000 people that it makes sense to do so. But the "countless" claim is kinda of silly. Maybe the unreliability of self-reporting on this matter makes it hard/impossible to count. But as far as the data shows, this is still a fringe group being harmed/inconvenienced here.
    "countless" isn't a claim. We're all aware that the population is countable. You're getting all worked up over hyperbole. Pretty silly.

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    if it really is 2000 then it's already near zero
    That's sort of my point. I understand that the law sucks and that if you can avoid hurting 2000 people that it makes sense to do so. But the "countless" claim is kinda of silly. Maybe the unreliability of self-reporting on this matter makes it hard/impossible to count. But as far as the data shows, this is still a fringe group being harmed/inconvenienced here.
    Begs the question of why such legislation needed to be enacted, since it's such a small group.

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    That's sort of my point. I understand that the law sucks and that if you can avoid hurting 2000 people that it makes sense to do so. But the "countless" claim is kinda of silly. Maybe the unreliability of self-reporting on this matter makes it hard/impossible to count. But as far as the data shows, this is still a fringe group being harmed/inconvenienced here.
    And there's a big difference between harmed and inconvenienced, fwiw.

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    Begs the question of why such legislation needed to be enacted, since it's such a small group.
    Muh daughter's safetuh

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    "countless" isn't a claim. We're all aware that the population is countable. You're getting all worked up over hyperbole. Pretty silly.
    The point is that the polarity of "countless" is large. But the real population that's affected is (really, really) small. Had the number been like 100,000, then I wouldn't have an issue. Like if you said, "Countless people travel to NYC every year." that would be fine, even though that's an actual countable number. But if you said "countless people visit Aztec, NM every year" it feels disingenuous.

    And there's a big difference between harmed and inconvenienced, fwiw.
    Eh, not really. Inconvenienced is on the harmed-unharmed continuum.

    Begs the question of why such legislation needed to be enacted, since it's such a small group.
    Because people were being idiots about the idea of men dressing up as women to rape their daughters. So Charlotte rightfully supported the oppressed group and the state decided to be dumb about it.

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