What is everyone's opinion here on the Duke Lacross thing so far?

[Sec24Row7]

Which side do you think is telling the truth?

[Yonivore]

After hearing about the time-stamped photos taken by party goers, I'm inclined to side with the players.

There are photos showing the stripper just after they arrived and the "victim" already had injuries and bruises on her legs that are clearly visible. Then, there is a photo taken a few minutes later showing the "victim" falling on her ass on the back porch.

If the photos are verified, they pretty much track the action from the time the strippers arrived until they left.

Also, I hear one of the alleged "rapists" has a taxi driver and an ATM receipt that show he was not at the house when the alleged crime occurred.

If true, I'm wondering where they get their reputations back.

[Clandestino]

i think it was bull that they had their season canceled with not even an arrest... and i find it hard to believe she reported the incident so soon afterwards and there is no dna evidence.

right now, i'm siding with the players...

[Oh, Gee!!]

I don't care really. I do find the news coverage amusing, however. Nancy Grace has convicted the entire team already, and put them to death.

[JoeChalupa]

The wife and I were talking about this this morning.
I actually agree with Yonivore regarding the photos, except the part about the bruises being clearly visible. Doesn't look good for the prosecution.
And the other guy does have phone records, ATM receipts and record of when he arrived back in his dorm.
Not saying nothing happened but it doesn't look good.

I'm not too worried about these guys' reputation though. They have big time lawyers and plenty of connections so I'm not crying for them but it does suck.

[Yonivore]

I actually agree with Yonivore regarding the photos, except the part about the bruises being clearly visible.

From the story:

12 a.m.: This is the first picture of the strippers. Students are watching the show, but not grabbing or attempting to touch the women. Bruises are clearly visible on the legs and thighs of the alleged victim.

12:00:40 a.m.: Another picture taken 40 seconds later shows bruises on the accuser's knees. Her right knee appears to have an open cut.

I'm not too worried about these guys' reputation though. They have big time lawyers and plenty of connections so I'm not crying for them but it does suck.

You're morally lazy.

[Sec24Row7]

Is Nancy Grace the courtTV ?

[Oh, Gee!!]

Is Nancy Grace the courtTV ?

yep, except I prefer the term " ."

[Sec24Row7]

Yeah... I hate that word, so ... no.

[JoeChalupa]

From the story:



You're morally lazy.

I could easily say the same thing about you.

[Yonivore]

I could easily say the same thing about you.

You could but, you'd be wrong. I'm not the one dismissing the damage to their reputations simply because they happen to be able to afford good counsel.

I'm also not the one who disagreed over a point of fact that was in a story (the visible bruises and injuries to the stripper prior to the alleged rape).

Maybe you're just plain lazy.

[JoeChalupa]

You could but, you'd be wrong. I'm not the one dismissing the damage to their reputations simply because they happen to be able to afford good counsel.

I'm also not the one who disagreed over a point of fact that was in a story (the visible bruises and injuries to the stripper prior to the alleged rape).

Maybe you're just plain lazy.

Well, your statement about is wrong.
And what, I can't have a different opinion than your allmighty one? Are you that perfect? Maybe you're too lazy to see another person's view?

So since I believe that these two gentlemen will do fine in life I'm morally lazy? Most of us won't even remember their names after this is all over. That's my view and I'm sticking to it. Sorry if it goes against your morality.

Do you ever get off your high horse?

[Sec24Row7]

Well, your statement about is wrong.
And what, I can't have a different opinion than your allmighty one? Are you that perfect? Maybe you're too lazy to see another person's view?

So since I believe that these two gentlemen will do fine in life I'm morally lazy? Most of us won't even remember their names after this is all over. That's my view and I'm sticking to it. Sorry if it goes against your morality.

Do you ever get off your high horse?

Some will. That is enough. This woman accusing them, if they are found innocent, should be put on public display and mocked for twice the amount of time that these men are in the spotlight but of course that won't happen.

[JoeChalupa]

Some will. That is enough. This woman accusing them, if they are found innocent, should be put on public display and mocked for twice the amount of time that these men are in the spotlight but of course that won't happen.

I concur.
Innocent people get accused of a crime every single day. It happens. When someone who is in prison and is found innocent due to DNA evidence or what not where is your outrage? It happens.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm sure you are all heart broken that OJ will never get his reputation back even though he was found innocent.

[George W Bush]

Oh, just blame me dammit.

Everyone else does.

[JoeChalupa]

You can blame me....I'm morally lazy.

[Spurminator]

I haven't paid much attention, though it's not for lack of effort on the News/Sports Media's part in trying to get me to pay attention. I honestly haven't heard anyone discussing this around the office or anywhere else (and I think this is the first thread on the subject here) so outside of Durham, I'm not sure how newsworthy this is...

I hope whoever is lying pays for it... which is no different from how I feel about other sexual assault allegations, even those without the sexy racial and athletic subplots.

[Extra Stout]

Is Nancy Grace the courtTV ?

Her philosophy is "guilty even if proven innocent."

[Spurminator]

I had never even heard of Nancy Grace until last week I heard about some of her comments on the Church of Christ.

[Mr. Peabody]

I tend to believe that if someone is accused of a crime, they probably did it.

[xrayzebra]

I smell a nice big civil law suite in the making. Also, we will see what happens
after the DA's election. The lady has nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Kobe Bryant sort of thing. Oh, and it will always be part of their criminal record
even if found innocent, unless their attorneys get it expunged through the courts.

[Vashner]

I tend to believe that if someone is accused of a crime, they probably did it.

Spoken like a true Leftist...

[Spurminator]

Spoken like a true Leftist...

You're joking, right?

[JoeChalupa]

He is a joke.