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    I will say this much. If the Spurs really did tell him that it was going to be "his team" in order to get him here, I can understand him being a little bit tweaked. Nobody here thought it would be anyone other than Kawhi's team. I don't really care whether LMA deserves it, or whether he's good enough, or whether he should be more of a team player, or any of that. If that's what they told him to get him here, he's got a legit beef over it. Because I don't think it would have mattered what he did, it was never going to happen.
    I really don't think that was case. First, Pop has been on record saying Kawhi's the face of the franchise; Second, he even stated that KL is the Big 1.
    Exactly. How LMA could think that when Pop is saying that Kawhi'd be the face of franchise since 2012?

    Question: What kind of season do you see Kawhi Leonard having next season? Also, where do you see him in five years?
    GP: I think he’s going to be a star. And as time goes on, he’ll be the face of the Spurs I think. At both ends of the court, he is really a special player. And what makes me be so confident about him is that he wants it so badly. He wants to be a good player, I mean a great player. He comes early, he stays late, and he’s coachable, he’s just like a sponge. When you consider he’s only had one year of college and no training camp yet, you can see that he’s going to be something else.


    http://www.slamonline.com/nba/gregg-...evhVzKlZqd8.97

    However, LMA and PATFO, both parts are enough professional to deal with this.
    In fact, after that game in Phoenix where LMA told media 'this is Kawhi's team...I just want to help him' ...Pop gave him a lot more plays that month and the next -than Kawhi- to get him comfortable . After these rumors, things can work in the same way.

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    Then who can they conceivably get that is of equal (or better) value?

    Blake Griffin could be a strong possibility, but only if the Clippers know he won't re-sign with them. Outside of him, no one is trading a quality, young big man away for a past 30, nearly out of his prime PF that allegedly has a "poor" work ethic and pouts.

    I would love to snag Marquesse Chriss (sp.) and picks from Phoenix, but that kid has a ton of upside and LaMarcus wouldn't improve Phoenix that much at all.
    Jahlil Okafor.

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    Okafor may never become better than Aldridge is right now. Plus, he sucks on defense and has issues with dealing with adversity.

    What does 2016 Parker do that Butler can't do on offense?

    Don't say anthing that you can't quantify like leadership or knowledge of the system.

    Not that I don't believe in leadership, its just you can't quantify it. It's subjective. Leadership shifts anyway. Parker can say he intends on being more of a leader with Duncan gone, but him being a leader isn't going to make him a better defender, and it isn't going to make him more consistent.

    You gotta be a complete idiot if you think Jimmy Butler could ever play point guard full-time in the NBA. Parker has better vision, has way better handles, is far more efficient (throughout the entirety of his career) and has much better shot selection as well.

    Of course, Butler is better in every other conceivable way especially defense but he has his shortcomings as a player. He's likely reached his ceiling as a player and his 2.4 assist/turnover ratio (Tony was at 2.94 A/TO last season) isn't too impressive.

    A non-PG that plays a similar style to Kawhi, needs the ball to be effective, isn't as efficient as Kawhi and needs to be "the man" on the team isn't going to make the team a lot better. They would need improvements at PG, either a good PF prospect or player comparable to Aldridge and possibly other assets (draft picks/overseas prospects) for any trade to be "good" for the franchise.

    Ball hog Jimmy ain't the answer, IMO.

    Note: I like Butler as a player and he has worked extremely hard to make himself into a elite wing player, but his style of play doesn't mesh with Kawhi.
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    he's laughing cause sunsfan knows parker isn't .

    tell us more about MVParker's trade value thegreat .
    This is true. I wouldnt want Parker for free let alone with that ridiculous contract. Id rather just keep the point guards we got.

    And I doubt they would even trade Booker if Kawhi Leonard was involved. They LOVE this kid. Put him on season ticket packages etc.

    Yes, Kawhi is an infinitely better player but from a marketing, ticket sales pov I dont think theyd even consider it.

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    The link in the OP reads:

    The Express-News has been informed by a league source the Spurs are open to trading the former Longhorn should the right package surface. Those within the Spurs refuted the suggestion, saying no talks have occurred with any team.

    Manu4tres edits sources like the hater account.

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    The link in the OP reads:

    The Express-News has been informed by a league source the Spurs are open to trading the former Longhorn should the right package surface. Those within the Spurs refuted the suggestion, saying no talks have occurred with any team.

    Manu4tres edits sources like the hater account.
    It was updated. Jabari fixed it after the fact.

    Thanks for chiming in.

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    It was updated. Jabari fixed it after the fact.

    Thanks for chiming in.
    Link doesn't say that either.

    Thanks for chiming in.
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    No he is not

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    I've said this before to. If you hear rumours about something like this then the trade is already dead or completely fabricated anyway.

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    we should trade LMA for lebron

    just my opinioN!

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    we should trade LMA for lebron

    just my opinioN!
    LeBron Jr?

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    aldridge > kawhi ... imho
    Whoever disagrees is a re , tbqh

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    Whoever disagrees is a re , tbqh
    i disagree tbqh

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    Trade him for Romo's contract
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    Spurs' goose is good as cooked, need to help the Cowboys as much as possible

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    we should trade LMA for lebron

    just my opinioN!
    Maybe in a parallel universe man, Gilbert would never trade LeBron for Aldridge, even if he wanted out of Cleveland. Keep dreaming! LeBron would only be traded for Curry and Durant together! or else no point in trading him.

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    Butler PG ?

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    Apparently Joe Reinagel went on some CBS radio show and pretty much said Jackie MacMullan made the whole trading LaMarcus Aldridge thing yup.

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    Apparently Joe Reinagel went on some CBS radio show and pretty much said Jackie MacMullan made the whole trading LaMarcus Aldridge thing yup.
    Color me shocked. And why not? Everybody can just make up, off the top off their heads, in public, on national TV no less and face just about zero consequences. Nay, lauded for being a good bull ter!
    Today's Reality...

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    "Called the Spurs Organization"

    Like it's ing Pizza Hut.

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    I've said this before to. If you hear rumours about something like this then the trade is already dead or completely fabricated anyway.
    I remembered that. The rumor was started by the celtics reporter, her sources are probably within the Celtics. Celtics have probably picked up that phone to talk to RC about Aldridge but didn't come away with him obviously, and they have started rumors about his character to depress his value.

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    Aldridge is about to squash all the rumors on Rome right now... Coming up

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    As I said earlier in this thread, the whole thing was obviously total bull .

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    I remembered that. The rumor was started by the celtics reporter, her sources are probably within the Celtics. Celtics have probably picked up that phone to talk to RC about Aldridge but didn't come away with him obviously, and they have started rumors about his character to depress his value.
    To be fair, Jackie is one of the most credible sources in the NBA. And she's not one to just make crap up. She's also been one of the few writers in the whole country who has written an article in-depth as this one on the Spurs... This is from last year...

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...gregg-popovich


    There's no way she writes something like this, with off the radar quotes from all of Pops' close circle, without having close ties with the Spurs.

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    As I said earlier in this thread, the whole thing was obviously total bull .
    Yup, because the Spurs would admit the truth behind it? Of course they will deny everything and make sure everything is covered up.

    Truth is, we won't ever know if it's really true until a trade actually does happen. Even if a trade never happens, it doesn't mean it wasn't true. Spurs may never find a taker or an offer worth giving him up. We won't know that.

    But but but... Joe Reinagel said differenty.....

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