Lakers: Julian Randle..

[Relevancy]

what potential tbh

I'm not even gonna waste my time answering this, keep thinking however you like, time will prove us either of us wrong or right. Enjoy the Spurs now, they are playing amazing bball

[Raven]

I'm not even gonna waste my time answering this, keep thinking however you like, time will prove us either of us wrong or right. Enjoy the Spurs now, they are playing amazing bball

well potential at doing what? let's talk about it.. he was supposed to be a knockdown shooter in the curry mold and quote "is likely to be a manu ginobili with better passing". No one expected him to be as ty a defender as he is and no one expected him to be as clueless as a passer as he is. sure he can make a jumper here and there, but they also need to work on that, because he is not getting open by himself anytime soon if ever, the only times he gets open is when it's a blowout or the team knows it will be a blowout so they lower the defensive pressure.

[Killakobe81]

Russell has plenty of potential, if you say otherwise you are clearly not watching the lakers enough

he's just playing under the wrong coach and players, that's really slowing down his progress. Randle on the other hand, he probably would have been better off playing another sport.. This dude will need to become a gym rat to fix his gigantic game holes..

starting to have more doubts myself in Randle. they say he hits jumpers in practice so not doing so in games is a sign of mental weakness. You hope he overcomes that and works on his craft but right now I dont have the hope I have in Russell or Nance in Randle and would absolutely not factor his presence on who we take in the draft if keep our pick. by next pre-season I need to see vast improvement or he is done in my eyes. however still willing to to wait on the bust label but it's worrisome.

Raven is just gonna hate but at least he may be right on Randle but is wrong about Draymond and Russell ...

[Relevancy]

starting to have more doubts myself in Randle. they say he hits jumpers in practice so not doing so in games is a sign of mental weakness. You hope he overcomes that and works on his craft but right now I dont have the hope I have in Russell or Nance in Randle and would absolutely not factor his presence on who we take in the draft if keep our pick. by next pre-season I need to see vast improvement or he is done in my eyes. however still willing to to wait on the bust label but it's worrisome.

Raven is just gonna hate but at least he may be right on Randle but is wrong about Draymond and Russell ...

Randle just drives me nuts man, he is a pretty athletic guy that if were to develop an offensive game would be a force to be reckon with.. he has terrible I mean terrible offensive skills... I'm with you if he can't develop tolerable offensive skills by next season he is done in my eyes too.

[Relevancy]

well potential at doing what? let's talk about it.. he was supposed to be a knockdown shooter in the curry mold and quote "is likely to be a manu ginobili with better passing". No one expected him to be as ty a defender as he is and no one expected him to be as clueless as a passer as he is. sure he can make a jumper here and there, but they also need to work on that, because he is not getting open by himself anytime soon if ever, the only times he gets open is when it's a blowout or the team knows it will be a blowout so they lower the defensive pressure.

Hard to judge a 19 year old, even if I say he has potential it doesn't mean he will meet it. Qualities are there though. He has a pretty good understanding of the game, he takes shots within the offense and never truly forces things.. and he's a good spot up shooter... Man if you can't see these things as good qualities for a rookie then I don't know what to tell you.

[Killakobe81]

Hard to judge a 19 year old, even if I say he has potential it doesn't mean he will meet it. Qualities are there though. He has a pretty good understanding of the game, he takes shots within the offense and never truly forces things.. and he's a good spot up shooter... Man if you can't see these things as good qualities for a rookie then I don't know what to tell you.

eh Raven is on a roll right now ... So far, he seems about Right on Randle ... but has failed all over this forum today ...

[Raven]

Hard to judge a 19 year old, even if I say he has potential it doesn't mean he will meet it. Qualities are there though. He has a pretty good understanding of the game, he takes shots within the offense and never truly forces things.. and he's a good spot up shooter... Man if you can't see these things as good qualities for a rookie then I don't know what to tell you.

so the others are not watching, but you need to be absurdly vague when defining his alleged qualities. meh

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, Russell is playing the most difficult position for a young player, while being in a no-system offense under the worst coach in the NBA..the Lakers are also throwing away the season to tank/celebrate Kobe, which obviously hurts him, this season..way too early to judge his potential..

Randle just doesn't have the attributes and traits of becoming anything special IMO..he hasn't even shown any flashes outside of maybe 2 games or so, too..

[140]

Hard to judge a 19 year old, even if I say he has potential it doesn't mean he will meet it. Qualities are there though. He has a pretty good understanding of the game, he takes shots within the offense and never truly forces things.. and he's a good spot up shooter... Man if you can't see these things as good qualities for a rookie then I don't know what to tell you.

[Raven]

Ya, Russell is playing the most difficult position for a young player, while being in a no-system offense under the worst coach in the NBA..the Lakers are also throwing away the season to tank/celebrate Kobe, which obviously hurts him, this season..way too early to judge his potential..

Randle just doesn't have the attributes and traits of becoming anything special IMO..he hasn't even shown any flashes outside of maybe 2 games or so, too..

I don't see how it hurts him, if anything it helps him to get minutes, he'd rot on the bench otherwise

[Raven]

yeah tbh

[Relevancy]

eh Raven is on a roll right now ... So far, he seems about Right on Randle ... but has failed all over this forum today ...

yeah this guy rules out everyone if they aren't putting up all star numbers at age 19 it seems

[HarlemHeat37]

In the process of updating my gambling database, Randle has been surprisingly good to start the season, tbh..I may have been wrong in predicting a Thaddeus Young-type ceiling..obviously it was a given that Scott/Kobe were holding the team down, but Randle has shown some flashes, I could see a Carlos Boozer ceiling if everything breaks correctly for him..

He's been their 2nd best player behind Lou Williams, tbh..

Russell has been surprisingly bad to begin the season, though..it's evident that he's still mentally rattled by the streets' reaction to his betrayal..

[Raven]

he's been somewhat good, congrats to him tbh.

[midnightpulp]

In the process of updating my gambling database, Randle has been surprisingly good to start the season, tbh..I may have been wrong in predicting a Thaddeus Young-type ceiling..obviously it was a given that Scott/Kobe were holding the team down, but Randle has shown some flashes, I could see a Carlos Boozer ceiling if everything breaks correctly for him..

He's been their 2nd best player behind Lou Williams, tbh..

Russell has been surprisingly bad to begin the season, though..it's evident that he's still mentally rattled by the streets' reaction to his betrayal..

Simply a beast.

[DPG21920]

In the process of updating my gambling database, Randle has been surprisingly good to start the season, tbh..I may have been wrong in predicting a Thaddeus Young-type ceiling..obviously it was a given that Scott/Kobe were holding the team down, but Randle has shown some flashes, I could see a Carlos Boozer ceiling if everything breaks correctly for him..

He's been their 2nd best player behind Lou Williams, tbh..

Russell has been surprisingly bad to begin the season, though..it's evident that he's still mentally rattled by the streets' reaction to his betrayal..

Boozer? He still can't shoot and that was Boozer's biggest value. If he doesn't develop a shot he's like a poor mans Odom IMO.

[Buddy Mignon]

Randle needs to have better guards to reach his potential. He's playing with a bunch of chuckers that don't give a damn about getting their bigs easy shots. It's nice to see you s are finally recognizing what I saw last year.

[midnightpulp]

Randle needs to have better guards to reach his potential. He's playing with a bunch of chuckers that don't give a damn about getting their bigs easy shots. It's nice to see you s are finally recognizing what I saw last year.

He's not that good. Still undersized, small hands, short arms, and no jumper. Carlos Boozer would be his absolute peak.

But Lou Williams

[Killakobe81]

In the process of updating my gambling database, Randle has been surprisingly good to start the season, tbh..I may have been wrong in predicting a Thaddeus Young-type ceiling..obviously it was a given that Scott/Kobe were holding the team down, but Randle has shown some flashes, I could see a Carlos Boozer ceiling if everything breaks correctly for him..

He's been their 2nd best player behind Lou Williams, tbh..

Russell has been surprisingly bad to begin the season, though..it's evident that he's still mentally rattled by the streets' reaction to his betrayal..

ALL TRUE like I said. I think the poor man's Draymondstuff is still a pipe dream but I think a poor man's Odom is very realistic. No he is not the elite player he was in HS and he is still wild and a bit undersized but if the jumper comes along he can be rich man's prime David West ...dude is tough...Tyson and boogie both tried to punk him he just laughs in their face

[Raven]

Randle needs to have better guards to reach his potential. He's playing with a bunch of chuckers that don't give a damn about getting their bigs easy shots. It's nice to see you s are finally recognizing what I saw last year.

nope. Whenever they try to set him up, that's when the TOs come. He can't be used as a focal point or even a 3rd option, he gets his points on broken plays, some rebounds or those moments when teams lower their focus and it gets sloppy. As I've been saying from the start, he's a poor man's JJ Hickson..

[Killakobe81]

nope. Whenever they try to set him up, that's when the TOs come. He can't be used as a focal point or even a 3rd option, he gets his points on broken plays, some rebounds or those moments when teams lower their focus and it gets sloppy. As I've been saying from the start, he's a poor man's JJ Hickson..

Bull at times he has been much better than that... but whatever. You were calling him a bust he is far from that. I would say so far mildly disappointing for the 7the pick overall but improving.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Bull at times he has been much better than that... but whatever. You were calling him a bust he is far from that. I would say so far mildly disappointing for the 7the pick overall but improving.

Im not sure how people can view him as a disappointment tbh. He came back from a season ending injury and finished his rookie year averaging a double double and considering the other challenges (Kobe's farewell tour, B Scott)I think he exceeded expectations.

[Killakobe81]

Im not sure how people can view him as a disappointment tbh. He came back from a season ending injury and finished his rookie year averaging a double double and considering the other challenges (Kobe's farewell tour, B Scott)I think he exceeded expectations.

He is a local kid to DFW ...so i have followed him from HS and his hype going in to Kentucky was unreal he was good very good but not great at UK but he still had hype ...I agree with what you are saying but if the hope was that he would be a star then even with injury he looks less than that ...but he is far from bust which is what Raven and others were selling ...

[Raven]

Bull at times he has been much better than that... but whatever. You were calling him a bust he is far from that. I would say so far mildly disappointing for the 7the pick overall but improving.

well he is clearly a bust, that is not up for debate... You need to think about what was thought about when he was drafted and what was the perceived potential/ceiling for him and no matter how much you guys want to struggle, it is clear that those who passed on him based on A, B and C, were right.

[Killakobe81]

well he is clearly a bust, that is not up for debate... You need to think about what was thought about when he was drafted and what was the perceived potential/ceiling for him and no matter how much you guys want to struggle, it is clear that those who passed on him based on A, B and C, were right.

Nope. He was picked about right you can't go by his HS or college hype I used that to explain why he is mildly disappointing ...he was picked 7th not 1st. People passed because they felt there was 6 better players and so far tbh exum and smart are the huge disappointments but it's to early to call either busts.
Why do I bother? Your posts in this matter are beyond ry

S&H despite Raven's poor analysis of judging by incoming freshman hype mildly disappointment ...think Harrison Barnes first two years with State as a comparison. He was even a bigger recruit out of HS and was drafted in a similar spot ...and was like randle good but not great ...hopefully in 4 years we have sonetjing similar to what the Mavs have now ...and I was a Barnes defender on here ...as well don't think he is a max guy but he was a great mavs signing ...but he has worked his but off Randle better do the same