Game Grades: Mavericks @ Spurs (:vomit:)

[Brazil]

But in sports a coach is the leader of the team, teams always take on the personality of their coach, far more than they do in a corporate structure. Everything for the Spur begins with Pop, he's just as much to blame as anyone else for last night's horrible showing. He needs to be held accountable just as much as the players. Otherwise you end up with the blind leading the blind.

He has to be held accountable as much as... yes we agree on that. I think your point was we cannot be mad at players for efforts because pop does not give a , here I disagree. There is no excuse for that.

[dabom]

0.9 assists per game

1.9 Per36 minutes

Wow that dude is the biggest POS on the team.

[dabom]

He has to be held accountable as much as... yes we agree on that. I think your point was we cannot be mad at players for efforts because pop does not give a , here I disagree. There is no excuse for that.

I mean if we're grading effort now, Parker gets a solid F. No joke dude.

[dabom]

And I'm not talking about the previous game.

[Brazil]

Pop putting ty players with zero NBA experience. Wtf do you expect?

I do expect they actually try and give a ... that the least one can expect

[Brazil]

I mean if we're grading effort now, Parker gets a solid F. No joke dude.

beacuse he did not wave towels on the bench ?

[dabom]

I do expect they actually try and give a ... that the least one can expect

Inexperience can look like low effort. You think those guys don't know the magnitude of their minutes/contribution? It's a slap to the players really.

[dabom]

beacuse he did not wave towels on the bench ?

And I'm not talking about the previous game.

[Brazil]

Topic is about this game, I think as I said already that Parker is indeed putting effort and playing well since his return from injury.

For the rest I don't buy very much on inexperience that can look like low effort. Inexperience gives you some Cojo action on his first years, dude running a bit everywhere and being messy but you could see dude was hungry and wanted to prove his value, yesterday was just meh action all over the place

[dabom]

Topic is about this game, I think as I said already that Parker is indeed putting effort and playing well since his return from injury.

For the rest I don't buy very much on inexperience that can look like low effort. Inexperience gives you some Cojo action on his first years, dude running a bit everywhere and being messy but you could see dude was hungry and wanted to prove his value, yesterday was just meh action all over the place

I saw low inexperience guys playing new lineups for the first time.

[Brazil]

I saw low inexperience guys playing new lineups for the first time.

I saw low experience guys with no heart playing like scrubs. Don't join the "Kyle Anderson plays like because Pop did not know how to use him" krew

but but Pop did not coach second half, he does not seem to give a why a low experience player like me would put effort in a NBA game tbh ?

[dabom]

I saw low experience guys with no heart playing like scrubs. Don't join the "Kyle Anderson plays like because Pop did not know how to use him" krew

but but Pop did not coach second half, he does not seem to give a why a low experience player like me would put effort in a NBA game tbh ?

So now you add they were indeed inexperienced.

[Brazil]

So now you add they were indeed inexperienced.

I never said otherwise tbh but it is not an excuse for not trying and not giving a

[dabom]

I never said otherwise tbh but it is not an excuse for not trying and not giving a

I'm over this convo.

[spursistan]

Exactly. And this ignores that in many games it doesn't even look like he's fully engaged. I don't think Pop is giving the effort that new coaches often give. He's essentially just coasting. And that makes some sense so long as he's taking notes and teaching well in practice. But I don't think he's setting a good example for his guys at all.

Then he can seriously get the out there and move to his emeritus position with Team USA. Just give the reins to Udoka and let him earn his Spurs. That's the order of things in the professional world. This has been starting to get us diminishing returns for the past couple of years and it can't last until 2020..

[SAGirl]

I really hate anderson man... But Chinook is a good dude and ST needs him, and I got nothing but love for SAGirl

Cheers
I luv you too.

I don't take the Anderson hate personally obviously. If I was touchy before I left that behind a long way back when I wanted to stick around even if the guy wasn't playing well. I love the team first, though I know guys didn't think that bc I was so noisy about him... and I like the forum.

My fandom just got noisy bc the noise here against him was so strong, and then it became a funny shtick. Guys would take jabs at me in sarcastic jest or funny .gif or whatever... so it became a thing, and I thought it was a funny schtick very often.

I still like the player and I still hope for him, yada yada, but at this point it's really worn me out to chat about him. It has become tiresome. I am fine with not clicking the 10 threads a day that pop up about him either (even in off days from games, it's excessive).

I'd rather just chat about other guys at this point and let Anderson be.

[Spurs9]

Sorry for you having to get stuck with grades on this game OP

[daledondale]

Kyle Anderson is 100%, without a doubt, the worst player I've ever seen.

He's averaging 2 points in 17MPG.. shooting 36% from the floor.

The Kendrick Perkins of Small Forwards

[bklynspursfan]

Then he can seriously get the out there and move to his emeritus position with Team USA. Just give the reins to Udoka and let him earn his Spurs. That's the order of things in the professional world. This has been starting to get us diminishing returns for the past couple of years and it can't last until 2020..

Did you see how dialed in he was in GS on opening night? How often do you see him that dialed in for a season opener.

He's not going to be like that every night, it's not realistic to expect that either. But most nights he will be. What's wrong with a couple nights he let's his players and assistant "figure it out"? It's a teaching thing, and I'm sure Pop just like the players has to pace himself. Idk why people are so up in arms about him tbh. We're barely 15 games in

[tbdog]

I am with you. I just wanted to let you know we don't all hate him bc you will be drowned out by others hating.

I still want him to do well personally and he has shown up b4.

He's still unsure of himself offensively, but I do hope he finds a groove. I considered dleague too, specially for confidence shooting but I guess Pop thinks he's outgrown it bc he dominated there when he was 21. He needs to compete against better compe ion at this point and to keep pushing.

It didn't incense me bc I didn't think he had a particularly good game on defense either. He was kind of uneven, same as the rest of the team. I also kind of agree with Rob and others that a trade might be in the player's and team's best interest but I am more realistic.

He's not padding stats in garbage time to raise interest for other teams and he still is making just the 1 mill... so it's kind of unrealistic to expect he will be traded and net any player that can help the Spurs unless he's part of a package with other guys, so it is what it is.

I am still rooting for slow mo.

Simmons misses all his shots, free throws, and registered a turn over, and really didnt do much out the defensively for exception of his one steal, and he gets 2 grades higher than Kyle. This is some bias hate here.

[SAGirl]

Simmons misses all his shots, free throws, and registered a turn over, and really didnt do much out the defensively for exception of his one steal, and he gets 2 grades higher than Kyle. This is some bias hate here.

There is... a very strong one. I have tuned some guys out if they can't chat about anything else or can't contribute anything worth reading (believe it or not there are some guys that as much as they dislike him they also don't talk about anything else, too much attention for a guy they supposedly don't like).

What makes the forum different is the unfiltered opinions, but you can use your own filter on whoever you want (ignore button is my friend for some trolls)...

I respect Rob though. I will just expect F from here on out for Anderson. He's just not going to be scoring that much, apparently by design, and thus he's never going to be even average for some guys but I do agree that I didn't think he was particularly worse than anyone else either.

[TD 21]

There is... a very strong one.

Says the person who's completely biased in favor of Anderson.

Aside from the obvious (him not being good), the reason he receives so much criticism is because you and your buddy have tried to shove him down people's throats . . . and also because you take it personally and are easy to get a rise out of.

[skulls138]

The haters keep the threads alive

[SAGirl]

Says the person who's completely biased in favor of Anderson.

Aside from the obvious (him not being good), the reason he receives so much criticism is because you and your buddy have tried to shove him down people's throats . . . and also because you take it personally and are easy to get a rise out of.

That used to be the case maybe. I don't think so, but you may have a point subjectively speaking about your opinion. I think it's the reverse, I only became outspoken when there was already some irrational hate going on for example. But it doesn't matter to me at this point.

I still like him personally but I appreciate diversity of opinions about him and he's not faultless, so one either does appreciate what he's able to do or one doesn't, and I don't have the desire to convince anyone. But don't mind me if I agree with someone who doesn't hate him either.

[wildbill2u]

INHO Pop didn't want to stomp on a very wounded Maverick team so he started some rookies and kept the vets off the floor as much as possible. He was taking a calculated risk that his lineups full of bench players could play throught their errors and still perfom to win the game.