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    Wonder why pizzagate was censored on Reddit and attacked in the press this week? It's because James Alefantis and Laura Silsby both have ties to the same anti trafficking group (v/pizzagate)
    submitted 6 days ago by PleadingtheYiff
    There seems to be an organization central to all the finds that we have been uncovering over the past few weeks. One which links Laura Silsby, James Alefantis, David Brock, other individuals that I loosely refer to as the “DC Group” as well as others.
    See my past threads for more info on Silsby, as well as Alefantis and his Comet Ping Pong pizza establishment:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...d_a_convicted/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...you_the_laura/
    I. The NCMEC

    What is the NCMEC?
    This organization is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). See their web page here:
    http://www.missingkids.com/
    The NCMEC website says “In January 1984 NCMEC was incorporated by private individuals as a non profit corporation to serve as a national resource center and clearinghouse on issues related to missing and sexually exploited children.”
    The term “private corporation” is key here. They do not have government oversight. This means they act as gate-keeper for the government to deal with child porn material without any oversight over what they’re doing, and law enforcement cannot get involved without them giving a go ahead.
    NCMEC haven’t exactly been responsible in this oversight free role they are given either. They are in the middle of a law suit over their handling of child pornography cons uting a violation of the Fourth Amendment:
    http://archive.is/TROdU
    The details of the suit are as follows: AOL maintains a database of hash values assigned to images classified as child abuse so that they are more easily identified/tracked. AOL was simply sending NCMEC the images without bothering to open them and verify the contents. So NCMEC was violating the right to protection from undue searches and seizures by opening what AOL sent. Notice how in this instance, only NCMEC was aware of what the photo actually was (and think about how that could be used to keep a lid on information).
    The NCMEC is significant mainly because of the oddly large number of connections it has. They appear to have some strong ties to Hollywood: Brian Cranston has been involved with them in the past and helped to make educational resources for them:
    http://archive.is/MiWnk
    II. NCMEC Connections to Silsby and the “DC Group”
    Especially interesting is that the NCMEC has connections to both stories I have previously run concerning child sex trafficking.
    A. Laura Silsby
    Since being arrested in Haiti for trying to steal 33 children and getting let off the hook with the help of the Clinton’s, Silsby has moved on to inappropriately continue to work in the anti-human trafficking sector. Silsby moved to Idaho and adoped the last name Gayler.
    Silsby has moved on to work for a company called AlertSense which works with a number of US states on their alert systems, which include Amber Alerts.
    https://www.alertsense.com/industries/#government
    http://archive.is/4eWSi
    Here is a local info webpage showing her working for AlertSense, as well as AlertSense’s main webpage showing that Silsby works on their Executive Team. Why would they let a woman convicted of trafficking children anywhere near systems that dealt with Amber Alerts?
    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Laura-Silsby/-1978794537
    http://archive.is/wka7C
    https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/
    http://archive.is/xFplZ
    And here is a less academic source covering Silsby’s move from a Haitian prison to AlertSense:
    http://rebrn.com/re/convicted-child-...r-amb-2942303/
    http://archive.is/kzAQS
    So how does this relate to the NCMEC? They are in charge of the Amber Alert program:
    http://www.missingkids.org/Amber
    http://archive.is/91WBn
    III. NCMEC Connection to Alefantis/Brock

    A. James Alefantis/David Brock/the “DC Group” Connections to Jeff Koons
    Remember how James Alefantis posted an “art” piece by Jeff Koons showing him having sex with what is purportedly his pornstar wife?
    https://i.sli.mg/IFs0bU.png
    PNG

    It turns out that Jeff Koons is more to Alefantis than an artist he admires. To begin with, Koons is very involved with the DC/East Coast art scene.
    Here on page 10 both Alefantis and Koons are mentioned as being involved in the DC art scene for example:
    http://digital.modernluxury.com/publ...n/?i=9965&p=12
    But none of these cir stantial bits of evidence are as important as the discovery that Correct the Record paid Jeff Koons $50,000 according to their SEC filing, seen here on page 9:
    http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/318/2016...pdf#navpanes=0
    Correct the Record is run by David Brock, who is in a relationship with James Alefantis. Here is a link confirming this and showing them caught up with another individual in some kind of blackmail love triangle:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ettlement.html
    Here is a photo of Brock on Alefantis' Instagram:
    https://i.sli.mg/p58Eks.png
    PNG

    B. Jeff Koons Work Connections to the NCMEC
    How is the connection to Koons Important? Koons is a board member of the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children (ICMEC). You can find an admission of that fact on his own web page:
    http://www.jeffkoons.com/biography-summary
    http://archive.is/hfUS0
    The ICMEC was founded in 1998 by none other than the NCMEC:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...oited_Children
    http://archive.is/zI508
    IV. NCMEC Connections to Thorn and Hollywood

    A. What is Thorn?
    The NCMEC investigation arose while I was looking in to an organization called Thorn. Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children (previously known as DNA) was founded by Hollywood personalities Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. Wikipedia mentions that several other Hollywood stars support Thorn, and Brian Cranston (who also has worked with the NCMEC) has sponsored an event for them recently:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)
    http://archive.is/YKCJV
    http://www.wearethorn.org/
    http://archive.is/RL6Il
    One of the main services Thorn provides is creation of product (termed “SpotLight” and “Solis” for use on the clear and dark net respectively) that help with API, software which sifts through the material.
    It does this sifting by scanning the hash symbols which were previously mentioned in this post (relevant to the case which landed the NCMEC in hot water for violating the Fourth Amendment). Thorn was involved with the creation of this hash symbol identification system.
    https://www.wearethorn.org/spotlight/
    http://archive.is/NYOZP
    Despite Thorns claim’s about the effectiveness of their software, they have only identified 6,325 victims and 2,186 traffickers. These numbers are quite a paltry drop in the pond when you consider the fact that over 800,000 children are reported missing each year:
    http://archive.is/RVFTn
    B. Thorn's Connection to the NCMEC
    Thorn doesn’t just sell products to “help” combat child trafficking though, they also facilitate a meeting of various companies’ tech advisors in what is known as the Thorn Tech Task Force. Members of the Task Force include Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Dropbox, Yahoo, Instagram, Tumblr, Imgur and Pinterest (many of whom were caught favoring the Clintons in the recent election). Officially, Thorn merely provides this guideline for the Task Force and doesn’t take an official role.
    https://www.wearethorn.org/sound-pra...g-child-abuse/
    http://archive.is/eVL08
    Once the various representatives in the task force go back to work, they collaborate closely with the NCMEC. And they are working with the very hash system that got the NCMEC in hot water for Fourth Amendment violations.
    Again, when their hash sharing system catches an image, it is shared only between the companies and the NCMEC. And the recent lawsuit the NCMEC is embroiled in indicates that the companies don’t even look at flagged images themselves. Think about how this could absolve them of liability while also ensuring that no one other than the NCMEC was able to view or access the flagged images.
    The NCMEC, ICMEC and Thorn all need to be placed under more intense scrutiny and investigation given Thorn’s work with the NCMEC and the NCMEC’s association with AlertSense (where Silsby works) and Koons, who has associations with David Brock and his partner James Alefantis.


    Koons and spirit cooker


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    on cue

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    CN thinks liberals sent you to discredit the right wing. What say you?

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    CN thinks liberals sent you to discredit the right wing. What say you?
    He's just trolling. Having fun. None of this is serious

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    Only thing I've ever seen was Epstein's brother testified Trump flew on Epstein's plane once. Although there are no flight logs showing Trump on there like there are for Bill Clinton.

    I'm sure you have a link to back up claims 2-5
    Oh its alleged.

    Jesus Christ in a bunny basket...

    EVEN IF 2-5 were all true when combined it means absolutely NOTHING as far as Trump goes. Get it? So Trump has been to a perverts Island, does that mean he participated in sex parties with underage girls that involved Italian food linked to devil worshippers? Is there ANY evidence that Trump even knew Epstein had a sex problem? WTF does it even matter if Epstein ate pizza on his island while Trump was there?

    Good God man...

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    He's just trolling. Having fun. None of this is serious
    of course not, but he did seem perfectly serious about this.

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    reiterated his disagreement. would a troll do that if he cared nothing for what people think?

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    Trolling is like jokes. While the intent is not face value that does not mean that there is not an intent that can be spoken to.

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    well, CN wasn't exactly a white knight. Perhaps he meant to reel in his more lumpen, indiscreet brother for the sake of the movement, but his posts ran contrary.

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    Oh its alleged.

    Jesus Christ in a bunny basket...

    EVEN IF 2-5 were all true when combined it means absolutely NOTHING as far as Trump goes. Get it? So Trump has been to a perverts Island, does that mean he participated in sex parties with underage girls that involved Italian food linked to devil worshippers? Is there ANY evidence that Trump even knew Epstein had a sex problem? WTF does it even matter if Epstein ate pizza on his island while Trump was there?

    Good God man...
    Good God man...just provide a link to the allegation.

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    Any of you debunkers going to even touch post #204, #218, #224 or have you already written off reality as fake news?

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    there was a child rape thing recently, but I guess you trust the rigged justice system dealt with that appropriately...

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    lol one-sided su ion of power

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    infinite su ion of Dems, none for your guy, even though legal process went further in his case and indeed, was only recently resolved.

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    there was a child rape thing recently, but I guess you trust the rigged justice system dealt with that appropriately...
    Please tell me you're not talking about the one orchestrated by the Jerry Springer producer

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    so, TSA, are you spoiling things for your side by making unsupportable claims, like CN says?

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    Please tell me you're not talking about the one orchestrated by the Jerry Springer producer
    not sure what you mean. there was an actual lawsuit. do you recall? yeah, it was dismissed.

    has the stuff you're talking about gotten that far?

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    not sure what you mean. there was an actual lawsuit. do you recall? yeah, it was dismissed.

    has the stuff you're talking about gotten that far?
    you were talking about that one
    I suggest you read the Guardian's investigation into who orchestrated that claim
    Norm Lubow

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    And since winehole can't wait one minute and put all his thoughts into one post I'm bumping this back to a new page until one of you debunkers addresses it. The avoidance is telling.




    Wonder why pizzagate was censored on Reddit and attacked in the press this week? It's because James Alefantis and Laura Silsby both have ties to the same anti trafficking group (v/pizzagate)
    submitted 6 days ago by PleadingtheYiff
    There seems to be an organization central to all the finds that we have been uncovering over the past few weeks. One which links Laura Silsby, James Alefantis, David Brock, other individuals that I loosely refer to as the “DC Group” as well as others.
    See my past threads for more info on Silsby, as well as Alefantis and his Comet Ping Pong pizza establishment:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...d_a_convicted/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...you_the_laura/
    I. The NCMEC

    What is the NCMEC?
    This organization is the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). See their web page here:
    http://www.missingkids.com/
    The NCMEC website says “In January 1984 NCMEC was incorporated by private individuals as a non profit corporation to serve as a national resource center and clearinghouse on issues related to missing and sexually exploited children.”
    The term “private corporation” is key here. They do not have government oversight. This means they act as gate-keeper for the government to deal with child porn material without any oversight over what they’re doing, and law enforcement cannot get involved without them giving a go ahead.
    NCMEC haven’t exactly been responsible in this oversight free role they are given either. They are in the middle of a law suit over their handling of child pornography cons uting a violation of the Fourth Amendment:
    http://archive.is/TROdU
    The details of the suit are as follows: AOL maintains a database of hash values assigned to images classified as child abuse so that they are more easily identified/tracked. AOL was simply sending NCMEC the images without bothering to open them and verify the contents. So NCMEC was violating the right to protection from undue searches and seizures by opening what AOL sent. Notice how in this instance, only NCMEC was aware of what the photo actually was (and think about how that could be used to keep a lid on information).
    The NCMEC is significant mainly because of the oddly large number of connections it has. They appear to have some strong ties to Hollywood: Brian Cranston has been involved with them in the past and helped to make educational resources for them:
    http://archive.is/MiWnk
    II. NCMEC Connections to Silsby and the “DC Group”
    Especially interesting is that the NCMEC has connections to both stories I have previously run concerning child sex trafficking.
    A. Laura Silsby
    Since being arrested in Haiti for trying to steal 33 children and getting let off the hook with the help of the Clinton’s, Silsby has moved on to inappropriately continue to work in the anti-human trafficking sector. Silsby moved to Idaho and adoped the last name Gayler.
    Silsby has moved on to work for a company called AlertSense which works with a number of US states on their alert systems, which include Amber Alerts.
    https://www.alertsense.com/industries/#government
    http://archive.is/4eWSi
    Here is a local info webpage showing her working for AlertSense, as well as AlertSense’s main webpage showing that Silsby works on their Executive Team. Why would they let a woman convicted of trafficking children anywhere near systems that dealt with Amber Alerts?
    http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Laura-Silsby/-1978794537
    http://archive.is/wka7C
    https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/
    http://archive.is/xFplZ
    And here is a less academic source covering Silsby’s move from a Haitian prison to AlertSense:
    http://rebrn.com/re/convicted-child-...r-amb-2942303/
    http://archive.is/kzAQS
    So how does this relate to the NCMEC? They are in charge of the Amber Alert program:
    http://www.missingkids.org/Amber
    http://archive.is/91WBn
    III. NCMEC Connection to Alefantis/Brock

    A. James Alefantis/David Brock/the “DC Group” Connections to Jeff Koons
    Remember how James Alefantis posted an “art” piece by Jeff Koons showing him having sex with what is purportedly his pornstar wife?
    https://i.sli.mg/IFs0bU.png
    PNG

    It turns out that Jeff Koons is more to Alefantis than an artist he admires. To begin with, Koons is very involved with the DC/East Coast art scene.
    Here on page 10 both Alefantis and Koons are mentioned as being involved in the DC art scene for example:
    http://digital.modernluxury.com/publ...n/?i=9965&p=12
    But none of these cir stantial bits of evidence are as important as the discovery that Correct the Record paid Jeff Koons $50,000 according to their SEC filing, seen here on page 9:
    http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/318/2016...pdf#navpanes=0
    Correct the Record is run by David Brock, who is in a relationship with James Alefantis. Here is a link confirming this and showing them caught up with another individual in some kind of blackmail love triangle:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ettlement.html
    Here is a photo of Brock on Alefantis' Instagram:
    https://i.sli.mg/p58Eks.png
    PNG

    B. Jeff Koons Work Connections to the NCMEC
    How is the connection to Koons Important? Koons is a board member of the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children (ICMEC). You can find an admission of that fact on his own web page:
    http://www.jeffkoons.com/biography-summary
    http://archive.is/hfUS0
    The ICMEC was founded in 1998 by none other than the NCMEC:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...oited_Children
    http://archive.is/zI508
    IV. NCMEC Connections to Thorn and Hollywood

    A. What is Thorn?
    The NCMEC investigation arose while I was looking in to an organization called Thorn. Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children (previously known as DNA) was founded by Hollywood personalities Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. Wikipedia mentions that several other Hollywood stars support Thorn, and Brian Cranston (who also has worked with the NCMEC) has sponsored an event for them recently:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(organization)
    http://archive.is/YKCJV
    http://www.wearethorn.org/
    http://archive.is/RL6Il
    One of the main services Thorn provides is creation of product (termed “SpotLight” and “Solis” for use on the clear and dark net respectively) that help with API, software which sifts through the material.
    It does this sifting by scanning the hash symbols which were previously mentioned in this post (relevant to the case which landed the NCMEC in hot water for violating the Fourth Amendment). Thorn was involved with the creation of this hash symbol identification system.
    https://www.wearethorn.org/spotlight/
    http://archive.is/NYOZP
    Despite Thorns claim’s about the effectiveness of their software, they have only identified 6,325 victims and 2,186 traffickers. These numbers are quite a paltry drop in the pond when you consider the fact that over 800,000 children are reported missing each year:
    http://archive.is/RVFTn
    B. Thorn's Connection to the NCMEC
    Thorn doesn’t just sell products to “help” combat child trafficking though, they also facilitate a meeting of various companies’ tech advisors in what is known as the Thorn Tech Task Force. Members of the Task Force include Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Dropbox, Yahoo, Instagram, Tumblr, Imgur and Pinterest (many of whom were caught favoring the Clintons in the recent election). Officially, Thorn merely provides this guideline for the Task Force and doesn’t take an official role.
    https://www.wearethorn.org/sound-pra...g-child-abuse/
    http://archive.is/eVL08
    Once the various representatives in the task force go back to work, they collaborate closely with the NCMEC. And they are working with the very hash system that got the NCMEC in hot water for Fourth Amendment violations.
    Again, when their hash sharing system catches an image, it is shared only between the companies and the NCMEC. And the recent lawsuit the NCMEC is embroiled in indicates that the companies don’t even look at flagged images themselves. Think about how this could absolve them of liability while also ensuring that no one other than the NCMEC was able to view or access the flagged images.
    The NCMEC, ICMEC and Thorn all need to be placed under more intense scrutiny and investigation given Thorn’s work with the NCMEC and the NCMEC’s association with AlertSense (where Silsby works) and Koons, who has associations with David Brock and his partner James Alefantis.



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    that's a ing word salad.

    can you put it in a nuts , in your own words?

    bet you can't.

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    if you understand it, you ought to be able to relate it in your own words.

    go!

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    can only imagine TSA's search history...

    pizza
    pedophile
    boy lover logo
    spirit cooking
    clinton satanic
    clinton body double
    clinton secret service medic

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    What's there to "debunk"? It's a conspiracy theory whose own conclusion is that certain en ies should be put under more scrutiny...

    Can you pinpoint what should we be outraged about? How about just tells us what you're outraged about it, so you can get it off your chest. If it helps your sanity, please.

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    Good God man...just provide a link to the allegation.
    This is perfect. This is quite ironic.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/th...to-talk-about/

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    that's a ing word salad.

    can you put it in a nuts , in your own words?

    bet you can't.
    In a nuts : the suspected pedos have some very real connections to higher ups in anti-human trafficking organizations. Including a human trafficker now working in the anti sector.

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