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The man knows his politics and called out every hypocrite GOP Christian evangelical.... so clearly he's not done
Fathead got less than a minute of playing time. That itself gives him an A+ grade in my book
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The man knows his politics and called out every hypocrite GOP Christian evangelical.... so clearly he's not done
Fathead got less than a minute of playing time. That itself gives him an A+ grade in my book
Well you're just so ing right. As a coach, he makes a great political commentator.
Give that other a rest, and stick to hoops, huh?
Of course but since I didn't watch it, it's surprising that with him shooting so well (just impossible to retain that rate you know?) They were still losing. I obviously don't know what it was this particular game but it's defense to me... otherwise what was it? And if he was doing so good why didn't he play more? Legit question,you know I don't troll.
I couldn't resist
Pops micro managing just needs to go away already. Props to everything he's done for this franchise, but this oversubs uting has just gotten so old and tired at this point.
Just play that damn game.
He played well enough - especially for a guy who was a 3 in Europe, and is now playing the 4. He's turning out to be a damned good rim protector, and he stroked the 3 again tonight.
The reason(s) he was a negative +/- are way too much for a simple answer. But you're asking the wrong question. What you should be asking is who would have made up for the 11 points he scored in the 10 minutes he played. I didn't see anyone else tonight that I think would have done that.
And if you're seriously asking why he didn't play more minutes? I sure as don't understand his rotations this year. I don't know anyone else here who does. You'd have to ask him.
I couldn't resist
Okay. Missed the obvious troll. I'm still so pissed about what he did (didn't do) at the end of the game, I can't see straight.
Actually it was a very exciting game, though not great. Certainly not great from Pop. Just to add my 2-cents' worth to what GSH said, I thought Simmons played well. He is trying to corral his natural tendencies and play with greater control within the framework of the offense. He did make one very nice assist, passing up an opportunity to force the layup or dunk that was truly amazing. Before he made that pass I couldn't have imagined him passing up that high-light-reel opportunity. That play alone renews my hope for the guy. On the other hand, Kawhi was good, but not great. His stat line was pretty impressive, and he played well. In truth, if he had made all of his open shots, he would have shot 100%. Not likely, but you get my meaning: he missed a ton of wide open shots. Plus Nic Batum burned him on a Few plays
Frankly, the best Kawhi thus far in his career was the Kawhi of last fall. In expanding his offensive role, Pop clearly sacrificed some on the defensive end. Moreover, I don't think Kawhi is nearly as efficient on offense with the increase in his usage.
I get you, bringing in Manu and Kyle for "defensive purposes" was a little too far tbh. I'll take the W though against a team that's playing well
Okay. Missed the obvious troll. I'm still so pissed about what he did (didn't do) at the end of the game, I can't see straight.
Ok you didn't really answer my question about what happened but I am guessing it was on other guys then, maybe Manu and Mills tonight.
I guess I will wait for someone to do the grades.
It seemed like he played more than that. He had one rough stretch where he made a couple of TOs, but overall he played well. A single game +/- should be ignored. It has too much to do with the other guys who are on the floor at the same time. For example Manu was TURRIBLE - which is to be expected since he was "good Manu" the last game. Pop needs to take away Manu's driving (and passing) privileges and just make the guy a spot-up 3-ball shooter. He would be excellent in that role.
It's been a concern since very early and it hasn't left me completely and thats bad bc they lately have just been winning based on outscoring the opposition at the end and relying on talent. I tend to think the team doesn't have what it takes for a championship bc of their defense. It doesn't even have to do with others, GSW, Clippers or whoever. Maybe the ofdensive burden has affected Kiwi this season but I don't think that's completely it. I will continue to watch that development...
The bench needs Dedmon IMO. It seems Bertans had a coming out party but I am concerned with them defensively too. I don't see Bertans Lee as a good pairing, but I didn't watch this, that's why I am wondering...
The guy is a bench player who scored 11 points in 10 minutes, on 100% shooting. So, yeah, I think it's safe to assume that the -4 was mostly "on the other guys".
I have seen what you describe from Manu in other games previously too. He's going to be very inconsistent this season. I'd expect any adjustments post ASB. POP may let him push through his early season struggles then evaluate what they will do.
You and I see eye-to-eye about LMA and Pau.
It's been a concern since very early and it hasn't left me completely and thats bad bc they lately have just been winning based on outscoring the opposition at the end and relying on talent. I tend to think the team doesn't have what it takes for a championship bc of their defense. It doesn't even have to do with others, GSW, Clippers or whoever. Maybe the ofdensive burden has affected Kiwi this season but I don't think that's completely it. I will continue to watch that development...
The bench needs Dedmon IMO. It seems Bertans had a coming out party but I am concerned with them defensively too. I don't see Bertans Lee as a good pairing, but I didn't watch this, that's why I am wondering...
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You asked about Bertans, and then claim I "didn't answer your question". Then SASaint talks about Simmons (and nothing about Bertans), and that did answer your question?
I don't know who was on the floor with Bertans for all of his 10 minutes, nor did I try to analyze his play down to that fine of an edge. But his overall play didn't raise any red flags, and his shooting was exceptional. If you're seriously saying, "If he played so damned good, why didn't he get more minutes?", you can take that up with Pop. Maybe Pop didn't like the matchups, and thought he wouldn't have done as well with longer minutes?
I suspect the problem is that you've got a case of the red-ass because Anderson got a total of 18 seconds or something like that, and Bertans played well enough to put Kyle's future in question. How's that for answering your question?
He said himself in sarcastic jest that he always had Tim. But so many rude truths are said in a funny way, you know that jest?You and I see eye-to-eye about LMA and Pau.
I have lately become a lot more observant about takes bc it's been very early, and the players and coaching staff are still making adjustments. But that observation about the bigs has been pretty consistent and its only varied bc they have put in a little more effort, but they still look very inadequate at times, not grabbing a board they needed, not moving to contest a shot, etc. It's duly noted that you would have gone with other bigs, or just different FA altogether.
I am terrible as armchair GM. I just don't watch enough of other teams to have good takes on trades or FA targets. It entertains me to see others takes and FA preferences, but I am not good at that myself. Then you add to that that the contract stuff is always confusing. So I mostly just observe what Pop is doing with the guys he did sign in FA and what he had in mind. As of this chat the team is 7th in Opp PPG... and this is a team that controls tempo and plays slow. I just have my concerns on defense... Kiwi has turned up the defensive intensity in the 4th Q and has won some close games with getting timely steals in the 4th but he doesn't have that same intensity the entire game. He could be pacing himself.
Last edited by SAGirl; 11-23-2016 at 11:52 PM.
Chill out GSH. I obviously didn't watch this game so I am wondering bout a lot if things, as you can see from my chat I have asked about several guys. I asked initially about Bertans and I guess you partially answered me, gave me straight up your opinion o Bertans be I appreciated that, though I don't think I said it explicitly, but then I wondered in general what was going on and that's the question you didn't answer, though you said there was a lot with others going on. I guess I wanted more general feedback and opinion.You asked about Bertans, and then claim I "didn't answer your question". Then SASaint talks about Simmons (and nothing about Bertans), and that did answer your question?
I don't know who was on the floor with Bertans for all of his 10 minutes, nor did I try to analyze his play down to that fine of an edge. But his overall play didn't raise any red flags, and his shooting was exceptional. If you're seriously saying, "If he played so damned good, why didn't he get more minutes?", you can take that up with Pop. Maybe Pop didn't like the matchups, and thought he wouldn't have done as well with longer minutes?
I suspect the problem is that you've got a case of the red-ass because Anderson got a total of 18 seconds or something like that, and Bertans played well enough to put Kyle's future in question. How's that for answering your question?
Nit another Kyle thread pls. He's not a factor in this one and I d rather not go down that road bc there already a ton f threads about him.
Is this the thread that MultiModerator merged but also killed the poll?
Well Pop is proving to still be regular season winning % coach, currently at 12-3. Has he morphed into playoff Marty Shottenheimer? Or a different version/same end result as playoff Mike Dantoni?
Ya just get this feeling like no lead is safe + the wins get racked up vs the scrubbier teams. Opening night vs the Golden gots was great, but lets see how it goes now that Golden has had more time to go shopping and get manicures together with Durant (bonding Warrior style).
I will say Gasol looks much tougher then the 1st 10 games. At least against the Lakers I saw a couple very tough moves by Gasol. Particularly after Randle tried to muscle/intimidate him and Gasol elbowed him right back and scored the hoop while purposely slapping Randle upside the head. Just right, not enough to get the offensive foul call. Maybe Pop gave him a pep talk? I think it was more Gasol returning to the site of his Laker glory days but hey, again maybe Pop gave him a pep talk.
Last edited by MultiTroll; 11-24-2016 at 12:38 AM.
Tsk tsk... such vitriol.
Plenty of teaching opportunities.
in' retire
in' retire
It certainly seems like he's making things worse instead of providing answers.
"There's a million new planets out there, go get a life"
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