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pretty sure trump owns carrier.
Damn don't killem CN!
Heres some humble pie for those hollywood lib s...
pretty sure trump owns carrier.
What It Means for Trump to Save 1,000 Jobs in Indiana
U.S. manufacturing jobs
2000 17,284,000
2010 11,460,000↓ 34% since 2000
2016 12,338,000↑ 8% since 2010
A loss of five million since 2000
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Indiana manufacturing jobs
2000 665,000
2010 435,000↓ 35% since 2000
2016 518,000↑ 19% since 2010
A loss of 147,000 since 2000
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All Indiana private-sector jobs
2000 2,493,000
2010 2,221,000↓ 11% since 2000
2016 2,523,000↑ 14% since 2010
A gain of 302,000 since the lowest point in the recession
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...bile.html?_r=1
+300K private sector jobs under Obama, 300x more than Trash's Tiny Hands.
Had the Repugs not been implementing sociopathic austerity at all govt levels since 2009, to inflict as much economic pain on citizens, jobs losses would have been less and job gains would have been greater.
Thanks, Repugs.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-01-2016 at 05:09 PM.
Why do you keep ignoring my inquiries??? I heard your mom has baboon vagina. Is this true or not. Be specific.
I guess I'll find out this weekend but I really would like to have a heads up.
a 1000 jobs have been saved, i'm glad trump changed his mind about making companies pay a tariff if they send jobs to other countries. its going to be interesting seeing the rest of these failing rust belt factories asking for the same deals, though.
free market
Only because you value one over the other. You pretending 1000 jobs don't matter is pretty ing stupid.
1000 jobs isn't even a big deal to UT (197K employees), and it's trivial compared to jobs even in just Indiana, never mind USA.
And it wasn't Don The Con's deal, it was Pence spending Indiana taxpayers $$$ that will be "paid for" by cutting most probably Indiana safety net.
And it's such a ty deal for UT that it UT had rejected it months before. iow, it's "old business". Those jobs will go to MX, sooner or later.
All y'all Trash fellators been CONNED again.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-02-2016 at 05:58 AM.
Economists Take Shots At Trump After He Bribed Carrier Into Keeping Jobs In The U.S.
In the long term, Trump's deal with Carrier could do more damage than good.
"Justin Wolfers @JustinWolfers
Every savvy CEO will now threaten to ship jobs to Mexico, and demand a payment to stay. Great economic policy. "
Nobel Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman also put the Carrier deal into perspective by comparing it to President Obama’s successful auto rescue, which saved over a million jobs. Back then, the same people applauding Trump for “saving jobs” attacked the current president for moving in to save a vital American industry.
Paul Krugman
✔@paulkrugman
Another metric: Trump would have to do one Carrier-sized deal a week for 30 years to save as many jobs as Obama's auto bailout
11:47 AM - 30 Nov 2016
Steven Rattner
✔@SteveRattner
Total Carrier jobs saved: 1,100
Carrier jobs saved from going to Mexico: 800
Manufacturing jobs lost this year alone: 62,000
Rattner also pointed out just how much the economy has improved in Indiana during Obama’s time in office, despite those now saying “finally we have a president (Trump) who will stand up for workers.”Tweet:View image on Twitter
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For all those questioning what Obama ever did for Indiana, here’s Indiana’s jobless rate since he took office:
2:39 PM - 1 Dec 2016
Justin Wolfers @JustinWolfers
My latest: In the 2 hours Trump spent flying to Indiana to boast of saving 1,000 jobs, another 6,000 were destroyed.http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/upshot/trump-and-carrier-how-a-modern-economy-is-like-a-parking-garage.html …
But as an overall economic policy, as many economic thinkers have pointed out, it’s not clear how smart it was. In fact, in the long term, it could do more damage than good.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/12/01/economists-shots-trump-bribed-carrier-keeping-jobs-u-s.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_c ampaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politicus+U SA+%29
Trash's Carrier scam proves he is a liar and a bad negotiator
We begin today’s roundup with The New York Times editorial board and its debunking of Donald Trump’s lie that he “saved” American jobs:
Carrier still intends to send 1,300 jobs to Mexico
(Mr. Trump said Thursday that more than 1,100 jobs will be saved, but that includes 300 positions that never were scheduled to leave the country).
Over all, factory employment in Indiana is down by more than 20 percent since 2000; nationwide, it is down by nearly 30 percent.
Stopping the outsourcing of jobs is a worthy goal, but it does not address the underlying trends in technology and public policy that are behind the demise of blue-collar jobs.
It would be naïve to believe that United Technologies — which had estimated it would save $65 million a year by moving the Carrier jobs to Mexico — would give in to Mr. Trump without an expectation of something in return. The State of Indiana has reportedly offered the company $7 million in tax breaks over 10 years to keep the jobs in the state.
In addition, Mr. Trump is expected to ease up on his campaign pledge to slap a 35 percent tariff on Carrier air-conditioners imported from Mexico, a nice concession, given that
Carrier will still be outsourcing more jobs than it is retaining in the deal.
Olivia Nuzzi at The Daily Beast:
Back then, he played the tough guy, promising to inflict painful tariffs on the company if they went through with it.
But in the end, Trump settled on a gentler strategy: allowing Carrier to outsource 1,300 jobs to Mexico in return for 800 jobs remaining in Indiana for economic incentives worth a total of $7 million, negotiated by the vice president-elect, Mike Pence, who for the time being is still the state’s governor and who introduced Trump on Thursday.
A spokesperson for the Trump transition didn’t respond when asked by The Daily Beast if Carrier would still be penalized for the 1,300 jobs they are outsourcing to Mexico.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...28Daily+Kos%29
Don The Con
A TOTAL LYING FRAUD
Fox News Cheers Trash Over 1,000 Carrier Jobs; Denounced Obama For Saving 1.5 Million Auto Industry Jobs
https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/1...ry-jobs/214676
Trash DESERVES to be mocked for his PR bull fraud.
Boutons, this post is pretty terrible, even for you. It provides no context, just like trump.
the post IS context, framework, as all are my other posts above. ING FACTS, deal with it.
Lol bunch of MSN surfers.
Love how all the moonbat, low info cites ignore Bush's auto bailout...
Rock hard stupid for the rabble
take per par.
"Democratic leaders want to use $25 billion of the $700 billion financial industry bailout to help General Motors, Ford Motor and Chrysler.
Senators Richard Shelby of Alabama and Jon Kyl of Arizona said it would be a mistake to use any of the Wall Street rescue money to prop up the automakers. They said an auto bailout would only postpone the industry’s demise.
“Companies fail every day and others take their place. I think this is a road we should not go down,” said Mr. Shelby, the senior Republican on the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee.
“They’re not building the right products,” he said. “They’ve got good workers, but I don’t believe they’ve got good management. They don’t innovate. They’re a dinosaur in a sense.”
Mr. Kyl, the Senate’s second-ranking Republican, added, “Just giving them $25 billion doesn’t change anything. It just puts off for six months or so the day of reckoning.”
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said over the weekend that the House would provide aid to the ailing industry, though she did not put a price on her plan.
“The House is ready to do it,” said Representative Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who chairs the House Financial Services Committee. “There’s no downside to trying.”
But Democrats have only a narrow majority in the Senate, and President Bush opposes the idea.
That raises the possibility that any help for automakers will have to wait until 2009, when President-elect Barack Obama takes office and the Democrats increase their majority in the Senate.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17auto.html
I never said that it was without meaning. I said it was insignificant once you understood the denominator. Try and keep up, dim.
Human life is infinitely more valuable than a job. Life is not fungible. Jobs are.
Moonbat posts a link from 2008.
Here's a factual link you'll ignore again.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-c...the-automakers
You can go almost infiniely macro on anything I guess. 1000 jobs feels substsntial in my view.
Job recovery/loss/creation doesn't normally happen in single batches of 100k, imo.
I'm not infinitely progressing. I stop at the US economy. In 2016 there were 7.8m unemployed.
If he were to do one such deal every day, he would get the unemployment problem solved in 21 years, 5 months.
So without meaning and insignificant are not the same things? Fuzzy logic.
I'm in Toronto. How come I don't see all of you cry babies crossing?
So are you saying you are pro-life?
Trump is shocked that Carrier took him literally. That doesn’t bode well for his many promises.
Trump candidly admitted that he didn't even remember having promised to keep Carrier's jobs in the state and insisted that he hadn't actually meant to make that promise.
He said something to the effect, 'No we're not leaving, because Donald Trump promised us that we're not leaving,'" Trump said.
"And I never thought I made that promise — not with Carrier.
I made it for everybody else. I didn't make it really for Carrier. And I said, 'What's he saying?'"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-draw7&wpmm=1
Holy ! Your rightwingnutjob mother ing Trash fellators, Teysha Blue as leader, have been so totally CONNED by Don the Con!
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