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  1. #76
    1. Ryan
    2. Carr
    3. Elliott
    4. Brady
    5. Brees/Cousins

    Looking into the numbers, Matt Ryan should easily be MVP, at the moment..

  2. #77
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    ^agreed. but if the raiders actually finish in a spot with a first round bye with more ridiculous 4th quarter comebacks, they might look past the numbers and go for the hype

  3. #78
    Ya, probably, narrative usually plays a significant part..

    I haven't heard much Elliott hype, which is sad, and he will lose some votes to Prescott, too..

    It's still early, though, a sleeper could emerge..it'll probably come down to Ryan vs. Carr, but Atlanta could always collapse, of course..

  4. #79
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    After the Bills lose next week they could quite possibly run the table and go 10-6...if it gets them in the playoffs I'd add Shady back to the list

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    This will be a legit tough year for MVP. Lot's of worthy people.

    I'd probably say:

    Ryan
    Carr
    Brady
    Zeke
    Shady

  6. #81
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    It's Brady and it's not close tbh... With the D going down the drain, he will probably decrease the # of possessions which should lead to a decrease in the numbers, but that td/int ratio is just illegal...

  7. #82
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    It's Brady and it's not close tbh...
    well you're half right. it's not close

  8. #83
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    IMO MVP is Brady even if it is quite close indeed

  9. #84
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    Ya, probably, narrative usually plays a significant part..

    I haven't heard much Elliott hype, which is sad, and he will lose some votes to Prescott, too..

    It's still early, though, a sleeper could emerge..it'll probably come down to Ryan vs. Carr, but Atlanta could always collapse, of course..
    It's a replay of the 2014 season where Romo and Murray took MVP votes from each other.

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    Honestly, Brady has played ty teams. Can't find a real quality win outside of maybe at Buffalo. Big Ben was hurt when the Pats played the Steelers. Rest of the schedule has been awful otherwise. Brady has better numbers than Carr, but Carr has played a tougher schedule and actual more games.

  11. #86
    Brady would have to be levels ahead of the field to negate his missed games, tbh..I don't see it..



    The SOS won't matter for voters, but it should..the Falcons have had the toughest schedule in the NFL..Oakland's has been relatively tough, as well(and will get even more difficult, as they still play Buffalo, Denver and KC IIRC)..

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    Mike Evans

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    I don't talk MVP early on, it's silly.

    We do have a good sample size now however, so with that said....

    Derek Carr

  14. #89
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    Prescott and Elliott are both listed at 4/1 in fresh odds posted by Sportsbook.ag, right behind Tom Brady at 3/1. Matt Ryan also is at 4/1, with Derek Carr next at 8/1.

    http://www.sportsline.com/insiders/2...m-bradys-neck/

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    - bad week for ryan... cost his team the game by throwing a pick-6 and also the game deciding pick-2. falcons are now down to 7-5, tied with the Bucs
    - dont think elliott really moved the needle on thursday
    - carr didnt have his best game, but still led another big late game comeback win
    - brady didn't move the needle in a win against the rams
    - stafford played a really strong game and won on the road to push the lions to 8-4

    as of now i'd say

    Carr, Ryan, Stafford, Elliott, Brady.

    that said, if the raiders lose at KC on thursday, the raiders probably dont win the division and carr probably doesnt win mvp in that scenario

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    Elliott
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    as well as brees is playing... they're 5-7, and you dont win mvp if your team isn't doing well. stafford is definitely ahead of him imo

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    as well as brees is playing... they're 5-7, and you dont win mvp if your team isn't doing well. stafford is definitely ahead of him imo
    If the Saints find a way to make the playoffs he deserves it imo, but it's most likely going to go to Carr due to hype (and the fact Goodell won't stand for Brady getting MVP).

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    If the Saints find a way to make the playoffs he deserves it imo, but it's most likely going to go to Carr due to hype (and the fact Goodell won't stand for Brady getting MVP).
    You can easily make case for Brady, NOT to get MVP. He missed 4 games, and his backups went 3-1. Oakland is for real, and Carr could be MVP, if Ryan keeps choking.

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    You can easily make case for Brady, NOT to get MVP. He missed 4 games, and his backups went 3-1. Oakland is for real, and Carr could be MVP, if Ryan keeps choking.
    yeah, brady's caliber of play is up there with any of them, but the suspension sorta gives an easy excuse to knock him down a peg

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    Mack or Miller for DPOY? Or am I forgetting someone more deserving?

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    its probably miller right now. the raiders defense being bad overall will be mack's main hindrance, sorta like the saints sucking being the reason brees wont get MVP.

    eric berry for KC has been great, but i think he probably splits votes with Peters or somethin. vic beasley is also having a great year but part of a mediocre defense, same issue as mack. landon collins is another darkhorse candidate

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    Mack or Miller for DPOY? Or am I forgetting someone more deserving?


    DPOY, DROY, and MVP, imho.

  25. #100
    How the is Khalid Mack(sp?) getting DPOY hype? Raiders have consistently been in the bottom 5 defensively, this season..

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