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    I remember when people on this forum were arguing Danny Green was a better player than Klay Thompson Not just better defender but better overall player. So yes, they are wrong. Wake me up when Green can score 40-60 points so effortlessly.

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    lol sensitive...Does Kawhi have the ability to score 37 in a quarter?
    Not under Greg Poclovic, and Klaynus could not do it with Pop either.

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    lol sensitive...Does Kawhi have the ability to score 37 in a quarter?
    So I guess Klay is also a better offensive player than Harden...

    sound logic

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    Not under Greg Poclovic, and Klaynus could not do it with Pop either.
    But Kawhi's usage rate is at a career high. It's not Pop's fault Kawhi isn't as an explosive of a scorer.

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    So I guess Klay is also a better offensive player than Harden...

    sound logic
    Klay is a better scorer. Harden is the better playmaker.

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    lol sensitive...Does Kawhi have the ability to score 37 in a quarter?
    Predictable that you would use one quarter or one game as your argument. I guess the rest of the games don't matter.

    MJ never scored 37 in a quarter. Is Klaynus a better offensive player than him too?

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    But Kawhi's usage rate is at a career high. It's not Pop's fault Kawhi isn't as an explosive of a scorer.
    Playing for a team, not hogging the ball if we say something like that then David Robinson is a much better scorer that Klaynus, 71 points no 3 pointers.

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    Klay is a better scorer. Harden is the better playmaker.

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    Even if we ignore the fact that one is a complimentary player and the other is an alpha whom opposing defenses focus on, there just isn't anything to support the claim that Klaynus is a better offensive player.

    Kawhi- 24.7 PPG on 47/40/91
    Klaynus- 21.5 PPG on 47/38/89


    Kawhi- 7 30+ pt games, 21 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts three times, held at or under 15 pts once, season low is 14 pts
    Klaynus- 2 30+ pts games, 14 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts eleven times, held at or under 15 pts eight times, season low is 8 pts




    But but Klaynus scored 37 in a quarter once. And he scored 60 in 29 minutes. That automatically makes him a better offensive player despite what the the numbers suggest.

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    I remember when Lollard was beasting just a couple years ago, looked unstoppable and what now?
    2 hot games every a couple of months is not something to write home about... losing to memphis with KD DG SC and Iguonada and Klaynus was there.

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    Even if we ignore the fact that one is a complimentary player and the other is an alpha whom opposing defenses focus on, there just isn't anything to support the claim that Klaynus is a better offensive player.

    Kawhi- 24.7 PPG on 47/40/91
    Klaynus- 21.5 PPG on 47/38/89


    Kawhi- 7 30+ pt games, 21 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts three times, held under at or under15 once, season low is 14 pts
    Klaynus- 2 30+ pts games, 14 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts eleven times, held at or under 15 pts eight times, season low is 8 pts




    But but Klaynus scored 37 in a quarter once. And he scored 60 in 29 minutes. That automatically makes him a better offensive player despite what the the numbers suggest.
    And dont forget the other night Kiwi was being triple teamed.

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    So I guess Klay is also a better offensive player than Harden...

    sound logic
    He's not. Harden can generate more points than Klay on average under more conditions simply because of his ability to draw fouls, shoot the 3 and get to the rim. He's also an elite ball handler most of the time.

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    Kawhi would do fine there, I'm sure, but a Kawhi open three, is not a Klay open three.
    You're right. A Kawhi open three has a higher chance of going in than a Klaynus open three.

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    He's not. Harden can generate more points than Klay on average under more conditions simply because of his ability to draw fouls, shoot the 3 and get to the rim. He's also an elite ball handler most of the time.
    You don't have to tell me that

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    Predictable that you would use one quarter or one game as your argument. I guess the rest of the games don't matter.

    MJ never scored 37 in a quarter. Is Klaynus a better offensive player than him too?
    I asked you if Kawhi has the ability, meaning, does Kawhi have the jumpshot to even think about scoring that much in one quarter? No he doesn't. And you are right MJ never scored 37 in a quarter, he has scored 39 in one half (Still more than Kawhi could dream about) . It's a much more 3 point oriented game today...So don't try to compare.

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    You're right. A Kawhi open three has a higher chance of going in than a Klaynus open three.
    Because Kawhi has a wider open look when he shoots the 3. Marc Gasol has a higher percentage than either of them and better than Kevin Durant. So is Marc Gasol a bigger 3pt threat than Klay, KD and Kawhi? No, because Klay has attempted 184 3's while Mark has attempted less than 100. Kawhi has attempted 118 3's. So Kawhi isn't looking for the 3 as often as Klay is, because Kawhi isn't as prolific a 3pt scorer as Klay. If KL could launch that many more attempts in the same time frame and remain less than 1 percentage point lower than his current, don't you think he would?

    Likewise, if Tony Parker could play and shoot like Curry, and if Danny Green had KD's attributes, how many points per game would Kawhi get?

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    You're right. A Kawhi open three has a higher chance of going in than a Klaynus open three.
    Oh is that why Klay is a better career 3 point shooter?

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    I asked you if Kawhi has the ability, meaning, does Kawhi have the jumpshot to even think about scoring that much in one quarter? No he doesn't. And you are right MJ never scored 37 in a quarter, he has scored 39 in one half (Still more than Kawhi could dream about) . It's a much more 3 point oriented game today...So don't try to compare.
    Have you even watched Kawhi play recently? Probably has the best midrange shot in the league. Shot 44% last season and is shooting 40% this season on 3PTers (higher percentage than Klaynus both years). His jumpshot is just fine, imbecile.

    What's your expert analysis on this?:
    Kawhi- 24.7 PPG on 47/40/91
    Klaynus- 21.5 PPG on 47/38/89

    Kawhi- 7 30+ pt games, 21 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts three times, held under at or under15 once, season low is 14 pts
    Klaynus- 2 30+ pts games, 14 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts eleven times, held at or under 15 pts eight times, season low is 8 pts

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    Oh is that why Klay is a better career 3 point shooter?
    Who's higher the last two years?

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    Have you even watched Kawhi play recently? Probably has the best midrange shot in the league. Shot 44% last season and is shooting 40% this season on 3PTers (higher percentage than Klaynus both years). His jumpshot is just fine, imbecile.

    What's your expert analysis on this?:
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    Kawhi doesn't take as many 3's as Klay, moron.

    And what are you boasting about? They are almost scoring the same amount of points with Kawhi having the higher usage rate

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    Who's higher the last two years?
    Kawhi takes LESS 3 pointers than Klay

    The attempts are not the same.

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    Kawhi has attempted 118 3's. So Kawhi isn't looking for the 3 as often as Klay is, because Kawhi isn't as prolific a 3pt scorer as Klay. If KL could launch that many more attempts in the same time frame and remain less than 1 percentage point lower than his current, don't you think he would?
    Or it could also be a combination of other things. Like the fact that Kawhi doesn't have as many open threes generated for him because he doesn't play on an explosive offensive team, and doesn't have KD and Curry as teammates. Or the fact that Kawhi's offensive game is much more well-rounded than Klaynus' (who's only elite skill is shooting).

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    Or it could also be a combination of other things. Like the fact that Kawhi doesn't have as many open threes generated for him because he doesn't play on an explosive offensive team, and doesn't have KD and Curry as teammates. Or the fact that Kawhi's offensive game is much more well-rounded than Klaynus' (who's only elite skill is shooting).
    84% of Ray Allen's 3 pointers made were assisted. 93% of Klay's career 3's have been assisted. So what? Great 3 point shooters find ways to get open.

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    Oh yeah, and 80% of Kawhi's 3's are assisted. He could shoot more if he really wanted to.

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    Kawhi doesn't take as many 3's as Klay, moron.

    And what are you boasting about? They are almost scoring the same amount of points with Kawhi having the higher usage rate
    He does have a higher usage rate which leads us back to square one. Kawhi is an alpha on an elite team, putting up his points while being the opposing defense's main focus. Klaynus is a gamma, playing a complimentary role and getting assisted on 85% of his shots.

    That's why I preceded that post by saying let's ignore that. Because your argument becomes that much tier if we don't.

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