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    Uh..yeah. Wouldn't be a United STATES without it. You want to do away with the Senate too while you are at it? After all Wyoming's vote counts the same as California in there....same principle...
    might be the united states but its founded by "we the people"... food for thought

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    Uh..yeah. Wouldn't be a United STATES without it. You want to do away with the Senate too while you are at it? After all Wyoming's vote counts the same as California in there....same principle...
    You touch on an important point.

    400,000 people in wyoming

    3 electoral college votes

    Value of vote in wyoming:
    0.0000075 (3/400000)


    Population of California:
    38,800,000

    Electors
    55

    Value of a vote in California:
    0.00000142


    0.0000075/0.00000142=5.290909091


    A vote in Wyoming is worth 5.29 times that of a vote in California.

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    A vote in Wyoming is worth 5.29 times that of a vote in California.

    tiny, underpopulated, western state judges, politicians, are cheaper to buy, their populations less educated, less informed, more gullible.

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    You touch on an important point.

    400,000 people in wyoming

    3 electoral college votes

    Value of vote in wyoming:
    0.0000075 (3/400000)


    Population of California:
    38,800,000

    Electors
    55

    Value of a vote in California:
    0.00000142


    0.0000075/0.00000142=5.290909091


    A vote in Wyoming is worth 5.29 times that of a vote in California.

    Representative republic thingy

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    It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California

    Democrats who are having trouble getting out of the first stage of grief — denial — aren't being helped by the fact that, now that all the votes are counted, Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote has topped 2.8 million, giving her a 48% share of the vote compared with Trumps 46%.

    To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton's advantage all but disappears.
    As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump.
    California is the only state, in fact, where Clinton's margin of victory was bigger than President Obama's in 2012 — 61.5% vs. Obama's 60%.


    But California is the exception that proves the true genius of the Electoral College — which was designed to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections.
    In recent years, California has been turning into what amounts to a one-party state. Between 2008 and 2016, the number of Californian's who registered as Democrats climbed by 1.1 million, while the number of registered Republicans dropped by almost 400,000.


    What's more, many Republicans in the state had nobody to vote for in November.
    There were two Democrats — and zero Republicans — running to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer. There were no Republicans on the ballot for House seats in nine of California's congressional districts.
    At the state level, six districts had no Republicans running for the state senate, and 16 districts had no Republicans running for state assembly seats.


    Plus, since Republicans knew Clinton was going to win the state — and its entire 55 electoral votes — casting a ballot for Trump was virtually meaningless, since no matter what her margin of victory, Clinton was getting all 55 votes.
    Is it any wonder then, that Trump got 11% fewer California votes than John McCain did in 2008? (Clinton got 6% more votes than Obama did eight years ago, but the number of registered Democrats in the state climbed by 13% over those years.)

    If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes. And if California voted like every other Democratic state — where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins — Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular vote tie. (This was not the case in 2012. Obama beat Romney by 2 million votes that year, not counting California.)

    http://www.investors.com/politics/co...om-california/

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    "If you take California out of the popular vote equation"



    You Trash voters are gonna get so ed.




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    It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California

    Democrats who are having trouble getting out of the first stage of grief — denial — aren't being helped by the fact that, now that all the votes are counted, Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote has topped 2.8 million, giving her a 48% share of the vote compared with Trumps 46%.

    To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton's advantage all but disappears.
    As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump.
    California is the only state, in fact, where Clinton's margin of victory was bigger than President Obama's in 2012 — 61.5% vs. Obama's 60%.


    But California is the exception that proves the true genius of the Electoral College — which was designed to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections.
    In recent years, California has been turning into what amounts to a one-party state. Between 2008 and 2016, the number of Californian's who registered as Democrats climbed by 1.1 million, while the number of registered Republicans dropped by almost 400,000.


    What's more, many Republicans in the state had nobody to vote for in November.
    There were two Democrats — and zero Republicans — running to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer. There were no Republicans on the ballot for House seats in nine of California's congressional districts.
    At the state level, six districts had no Republicans running for the state senate, and 16 districts had no Republicans running for state assembly seats.


    Plus, since Republicans knew Clinton was going to win the state — and its entire 55 electoral votes — casting a ballot for Trump was virtually meaningless, since no matter what her margin of victory, Clinton was getting all 55 votes.
    Is it any wonder then, that Trump got 11% fewer California votes than John McCain did in 2008? (Clinton got 6% more votes than Obama did eight years ago, but the number of registered Democrats in the state climbed by 13% over those years.)

    If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes. And if California voted like every other Democratic state — where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins — Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular vote tie. (This was not the case in 2012. Obama beat Romney by 2 million votes that year, not counting California.)

    http://www.investors.com/politics/co...om-california/
    What if we took out Texas.

    What a dumb article.

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    What if we took out Texas.

    What a dumb article.
    Agreed on the last part of taking out California being dumb, but it does show the importance of the electoral college. California

    "As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state — California — where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump"

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    You touch on an important point.

    400,000 people in wyoming

    3 electoral college votes

    Value of vote in wyoming:
    0.0000075 (3/400000)


    Population of California:
    38,800,000

    Electors
    55

    Value of a vote in California:
    0.00000142


    0.0000075/0.00000142=5.290909091


    A vote in Wyoming is worth 5.29 times that of a vote in California.
    California sucks anyways.

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    California sucks anyways.
    Actually California, Texas, NY, and Florida are all quite lovely.

    I will keep all of them.

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    You touch on an important point.

    400,000 people in wyoming

    3 electoral college votes

    Value of vote in wyoming:
    0.0000075 (3/400000)


    Population of California:
    38,800,000

    Electors
    55

    Value of a vote in California:
    0.00000142


    0.0000075/0.00000142=5.290909091


    A vote in Wyoming is worth 5.29 times that of a vote in California.
    I want a value for this election using the number of people who actually voted instead of total population.
    I would like to see how close it is to your calculations. Yes sir, I can get lazy.

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    Actually California, Texas, NY, and Florida are all quite lovely.

    I will keep all of them.
    I meant the lib s there. They are the worst. Want to make this country socialistic.

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    Landslide!

    Millions of fradulent voters!

    ===================


    Kellyanne Conway Retweeted CNN Politics


    306. Landslide. Blowout. Historic.

    =====================


    Nate Silver – Verified account NateSilver538

    Actually way below average for a winner's total:

    1984—525 St Ronnie The Diseases, disaster

    1980—489 St Ronnie The Diseases, disaster
    1988—426 Pappy Bush, one term lose "it's the economy, stupid"
    1996—379
    1992—370
    2008—365
    2012—332
    *2016—306* Repug
    2004—286 Repug
    2000—271 Repug

    ?https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilve...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

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    His popular vote margin of loss of 2.0+% also ranks among the greatest of all victories. Historic alright!

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    WATCH: Bill O’Reilly channels inner Afrikaner, complains that “the left wants power taken away from the white establishment”

    "It sounds like he was defending apartheid" in talking about the "white establishment,"




    “The left sees white privilege in America as an oppressive force that must be done away with,” O’Reilly said, without having any idea what he was actually saying.

    Therefore, white working class voters must be marginalized and what better way to do that than center the voting power in the cities.

    Very few commentators will tell you that the heart of liberalism in America today is based on race. (REPUGS PARTY OF RACISTS!)

    It permeates almost every issue.

    That white men have set up a system of oppression.

    That system must be destroyed.

    Bernie Sanders pedaled that to some extent Hillary Clinton did.

    And the liberal media tries to sell that all day long.

    So-called white privilege bad. Diversity good.


    If you look at the voting patterns, it’s clear that the Democrats are heavily reliant on the minority vote. (KNITTERS!)

    Also on the woman vote. ( ES ,HOs, pussies-for-grabbing!)

    White men have largely abandoned the Democrats and the left believes it’s because of racism that they want to punish minorities, keep them down.

    So that’s what’s really going on when you hear about the Electoral College and how unfair it allegedly is. Summing up, the left wants power taken away from the white establishment. They want a profound change in the way America is run. Taking voting power away from the white precincts is the quickest way to do that.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/12/21/watc...establishment/

    So O'Reilly, "just a commentator", is propagandizing for White Male Nationalist Supremacy.

    I would like an answer as to why so many of the nastiest ing rightwing assholes are Catholics.

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    WATCH: Bill O’Reilly channels inner Afrikaner, complains that “the left wants power taken away from the white establishment”

    "It sounds like he was defending apartheid" in talking about the "white establishment,"




    “The left sees white privilege in America as an oppressive force that must be done away with,” O’Reilly said, without having any idea what he was actually saying.

    Therefore, white working class voters must be marginalized and what better way to do that than center the voting power in the cities.

    Very few commentators will tell you that the heart of liberalism in America today is based on race. (REPUGS PARTY OF RACISTS!)

    It permeates almost every issue.

    That white men have set up a system of oppression.

    That system must be destroyed.

    Bernie Sanders pedaled that to some extent Hillary Clinton did.

    And the liberal media tries to sell that all day long.

    So-called white privilege bad. Diversity good.


    If you look at the voting patterns, it’s clear that the Democrats are heavily reliant on the minority vote. (KNITTERS!)

    Also on the woman vote. ( ES ,HOs, pussies-for-grabbing!)

    White men have largely abandoned the Democrats and the left believes it’s because of racism that they want to punish minorities, keep them down.

    So that’s what’s really going on when you hear about the Electoral College and how unfair it allegedly is. Summing up, the left wants power taken away from the white establishment. They want a profound change in the way America is run. Taking voting power away from the white precincts is the quickest way to do that.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/12/21/watc...establishment/

    So O'Reilly, "just a commentator", is propagandizing for White Male Nationalist Supremacy.

    I would like an answer as to why so many of the nastiest ing rightwing assholes are Catholics.
    Bouts, sweetheart...they'll play gettin' it done.

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    Don't more Catholics lean Dem than Rep? That seems so strange given the abortion issue.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ical-leanings/

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    Don't more Catholics lean Dem than Rep? That seems so strange given the abortion issue.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ical-leanings/
    Not so strange when you consider Catholicism is the dominant sect among Hispanics.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...2016-analysis/

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    Don't more Catholics lean Dem than Rep? That seems so strange given the abortion issue.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ical-leanings/
    And maybe the abortion issue is quite vexing for them and they waffle on it. Just like our president elect.

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    Bouts, sweetheart...they'll play gettin' it done.
    Things will eventually change. The demographics demand it. You are hoping for way too much. But then again, you will probably be dead by the time this country has seen the inevitable shift that makes your white dreams nightmares.

    This country is not a color, it's ideas.

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    Things will eventually change. The demographics demand it. You are hoping for way too much. But then again, you will probably be dead by the time this country has seen the inevitable shift that makes your white dreams nightmares.
    This country is not a color, it's ideas.
    Absolutely. "the greatest people who has ever trod this earth." will indeed culminate. I bore witness though to our race at it's zenith. And that will usher me "into the dust that is the always the end."

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    Things will eventually change. The demographics demand it. You are hoping for way too much. But then again, you will probably be dead by the time this country has seen the inevitable shift that makes your white dreams nightmares.

    This country is not a color, it's ideas.
    this is true.

    That's why it's so insulting of Democrats to assume that hispanics don't want good jobs, low taxes and conservative government and will simply vote Democratic for illegal immigration and government handouts.

    It's liberal snobbery at it's finest.

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    this is true.

    That's why it's so insulting of Democrats to assume that hispanics don't want good jobs, low taxes and conservative government and will simply vote Democratic for illegal immigration and government handouts.

    It's liberal snobbery at it's finest.
    I did not know Democrats thought that way. I really thought they just expected votes because of people like Thread. And I have met Republicans like Thread who think they belong to an elite club.

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    Absolutely. "the greatest people who has ever trod this earth." will indeed culminate. I bore witness though to our race at it's zenith. And that will usher me "into the dust that is the always the end."
    So I guess Greece does not count.

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    Don't more Catholics lean Dem than Rep? That seems so strange given the abortion issue.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ical-leanings/
    I'm talking about media, judicial, political Catholics being extreme right wing assholes. The list is long.

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