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    Talk about humbled when Parker has been a ING CANCER the last 3 playoff years. Even when we won with him.

    And you still betting on a 4 game sample size. Well ing be humbled already.

    Thinking this Patty is like last years patty.

    WAY BETTER than porker.
    Parker was good against OKC. Patty was the worst player in the series, actually.

    But what you still don't get is that House isn't a "cure."

    You want Patty to start so badly, then call Pop and tell him to move D-League for an SG that can do more than just stand at the 3 point line and spot up. This team has no penetrating and playmaking guards aside from Manu, who is "Turnobili" half the time, so the only option is to literally "gamble" on Parker and hope he finds a gear. Let House excel at what he does best.....


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    Embarrassing stuff when you can't even go off and the player guarding you is Cameron Payne.....

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    You know, come to think of it, the Spurs might be able to trade Parker this season if he can keep this kind of play up.

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    Parker was good against OKC. Patty was the worst player in the series, actually.

    But what you still don't get is that House isn't a "cure."

    You want Patty to start so badly, then call Pop and tell him to move D-League for an SG that can do more than just stand at the 3 point line and spot up. This team has no penetrating and playmaking guards aside from Manu, who is "Turnobili" half the time, so the only option is to literally "gamble" on Parker and hope he finds a gear. Let House excel at what he does best.....

    Spurs have gambled on porker. Look at 2015. And he was trash last year too. He isn't getting better stupid . There is just giving your money away though if you like on porker.

    You're a smart guy. But it seems last years Turd Option still got you hooked.

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    My RD2191 was right about Paddy, props tbh..

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    Tony doesn't matter tbh... it's evident that the Spurs can't survive a bad night from LMA/Kawhi against relatively good teams (which are not many, tbh). It makes complete sense, based on how this team is built.

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    1 Chris Paul, PG LAC 31 31.5 6.13 2.96 9.09 7.43
    2 Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF MIL 32 35.0 3.30 3.87 7.17 6.64
    3 LeBron James, SF CLE 29 37.1 5.54 1.59 7.13 6.49
    4 Kyle Lowry, PG TOR 32 37.1 6.40 0.44 6.84 6.90
    5 James Harden, SG HOU 35 36.4 7.45 -1.07 6.38 7.21
    6 Draymond Green, PF GS 32 32.8 2.13 4.16 6.29 6.21
    7 Russell Westbrook, PG OKC 34 34.6 7.07 -0.79 6.28 6.69
    8 Jimmy Butler, SF CHI 34 36.5 5.14 1.08 6.22 6.71
    9 Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 31 33.5 5.05 1.06 6.11 5.97
    10 Kevin Durant, SF GS 34 34.2 3.78 2.20 5.98 6.58
    11 Stephen Curry, PG GS 34 33.2 5.94 -0.07 5.87 6.46
    12 DeMarcus Cousins, PF SAC 32 34.8 4.48 1.06 5.54 5.61
    13 Kevin Love, PF CLE 29 32.0 3.38 2.08 5.46 4.71
    14 Paul Millsap, PF ATL 30 33.6 1.13 3.67 4.80 4.73
    15 Marc Gasol, C MEM 34 33.5 2.59 1.82 4.41 4.69
    16 Nikola Jokic, PF DEN 30 24.4 2.20 2.05 4.25 3.16
    17 Trevor Ariza, SF HOU 35 33.5 2.17 2.03 4.20 5.09
    18 Rudy Gobert, C UTAH 34 33.0 -0.97 4.79 3.82 4.25
    19 Otto Porter Jr., SF WSH 32 33.7 2.52 1.24 3.76 4.39
    20 Patrick Patterson, PF TOR 31 28.4 2.00 1.52 3.52 3.47
    21 Anthony Davis, PF NO 33 37.2 1.24 2.24 3.48 4.86
    22 Lucas Nogueira, C TOR 25 19.3 0.82 2.64 3.46 1.84
    23 Al Horford, C BOS 24 32.9 1.34 2.10 3.44 2.91
    24 John Wall, PG WSH 30 36.2 3.73 -0.35 3.38 4.23
    25 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG DET 34 33.5 2.74 0.54 3.28 4.34
    26 Kemba Walker, PG CHA 33 33.4 3.84 -0.79 3.05 3.89
    27 Patty Mills, PG SA 33 22.6 3.77 -0.73 3.04 2.77


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    321 Caris LeVert, SG BKN 12 15.5 -1.67 -0.31 -1.98 0.11
    322 Brandon Jennings, PG NY 33 24.2 -0.51 -1.49 -2.00 0.51
    323 Joe Harris, SF BKN 30 23.5 -0.94 -1.06 -2.00 0.54
    324 Omri Casspi, SF SAC 19 18.7 -1.73 -0.28 -2.01 0.23
    325 Jose Calderon, PG LAL 14 13.9 -1.18 -0.84 -2.02 0.13
    326 Hollis Thompson, SF PHI 30 18.6 -0.82 -1.22 -2.04 0.35
    327 Michael Gbinije, SG DET 8 3.6 -1.61 -0.43 -2.04 0.02
    328 Tony Parker, PG SA 24 25.5 -1.29 -0.76 -2.05 0.37
    329 Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, SG PHI 20 7.4 -2.03 -0.02 -2.05 0.09
    330 John Lucas III, PG MIN 5 2.2 -1.40 -0.66 -2.06 0.01
    331 Anthony Bennett, PF BKN 22 11.9 -0.72 -1.37 -2.09 0.18
    332 T.J. McConnell, PG PHI 32 20.4 -2.20 0.09 -2.11 0.39



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    Spurs have gambled on porker. Look at 2015. And he was trash last year too. He isn't getting better stupid . There is just giving your money away though if you like on porker.

    You're a smart guy. But it seems last years Turd Option still got you hooked.
    Yes, and they need to continue to do so, since they have no other choice. Indeed, it's their fault for not developing/signing a REAL PG as insurance, but this is the corner they painted themselves into. You still don't get it. While Parker might be a bad gamble, Patty is a worse one, since, you know, he's not a PG. Furthermore, what he does off the bench is huge for the team, meaning starting House will simply create another problem - a shallow bench, translating into more blown leads and such, meaning more demands placed on the starters. Parker would be a terrible fit with the bench. He needs spacing, and sans Patty, there isn't a consistent shooter on the unit.

    You guys don't think beyond comparing the statlines of each player. Again, you want House to start, call Pop and tell him to get a playmaking SG in the SL.

    That said, Patty works well as the...



    Just accept his role, bro.

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    Yes, and they need to continue to do so, since they have no other choice. Indeed, it's their fault for not developing/signing a REAL PG as insurance, but this is the corner they painted themselves into. You still don't get it. While Parker might be a bad gamble, Patty is a worse one, since, you know, he's not a PG. Furthermore, what he does off the bench is huge for the team, meaning starting House will simply create another problem - a shallow bench, translating into more blown leads and such, meaning more demands placed on the starters. Parker would be a terrible fit with the bench. He needs spacing, and sans Patty, there isn't a consistent shooter on the unit.

    You guys don't think beyond comparing the statlines of each player. Again, you want House to start, call Pop and tell him to get a playmaking SG in the SL.

    That said, Patty works well as the...



    Just accept his role, bro.
    Except he plays great with Kawhi. We'd blow teams out in the playoffs and wouldn't rely in our bench in the playoffs much anyways. got.

    Thinking gambling on porker is a winning formula. got.

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    My RD2191 was right about Paddy, props tbh..
    Thanks for the shout out bruh.

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    2 Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF MIL 32 35.0 3.30 3.87 7.17 6.64
    3 LeBron James, SF CLE 29 37.1 5.54 1.59 7.13 6.49
    4 Kyle Lowry, PG TOR 32 37.1 6.40 0.44 6.84 6.90
    5 James Harden, SG HOU 35 36.4 7.45 -1.07 6.38 7.21
    6 Draymond Green, PF GS 32 32.8 2.13 4.16 6.29 6.21
    7 Russell Westbrook, PG OKC 34 34.6 7.07 -0.79 6.28 6.69
    8 Jimmy Butler, SF CHI 34 36.5 5.14 1.08 6.22 6.71
    9 Kawhi Leonard, SF SA 31 33.5 5.05 1.06 6.11 5.97
    10 Kevin Durant, SF GS 34 34.2 3.78 2.20 5.98 6.58
    11 Stephen Curry, PG GS 34 33.2 5.94 -0.07 5.87 6.46
    12 DeMarcus Cousins, PF SAC 32 34.8 4.48 1.06 5.54 5.61
    13 Kevin Love, PF CLE 29 32.0 3.38 2.08 5.46 4.71
    14 Paul Millsap, PF ATL 30 33.6 1.13 3.67 4.80 4.73
    15 Marc Gasol, C MEM 34 33.5 2.59 1.82 4.41 4.69
    16 Nikola Jokic, PF DEN 30 24.4 2.20 2.05 4.25 3.16
    17 Trevor Ariza, SF HOU 35 33.5 2.17 2.03 4.20 5.09
    18 Rudy Gobert, C UTAH 34 33.0 -0.97 4.79 3.82 4.25
    19 Otto Porter Jr., SF WSH 32 33.7 2.52 1.24 3.76 4.39
    20 Patrick Patterson, PF TOR 31 28.4 2.00 1.52 3.52 3.47
    21 Anthony Davis, PF NO 33 37.2 1.24 2.24 3.48 4.86
    22 Lucas Nogueira, C TOR 25 19.3 0.82 2.64 3.46 1.84
    23 Al Horford, C BOS 24 32.9 1.34 2.10 3.44 2.91
    24 John Wall, PG WSH 30 36.2 3.73 -0.35 3.38 4.23
    25 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, SG DET 34 33.5 2.74 0.54 3.28 4.34
    26 Kemba Walker, PG CHA 33 33.4 3.84 -0.79 3.05 3.89
    27 Patty Mills, PG SA 33 22.6 3.77 -0.73 3.04 2.77


    RK NAME TEAM GP MPG ORPM DRPM RPM WINS
    321 Caris LeVert, SG BKN 12 15.5 -1.67 -0.31 -1.98 0.11
    322 Brandon Jennings, PG NY 33 24.2 -0.51 -1.49 -2.00 0.51
    323 Joe Harris, SF BKN 30 23.5 -0.94 -1.06 -2.00 0.54
    324 Omri Casspi, SF SAC 19 18.7 -1.73 -0.28 -2.01 0.23
    325 Jose Calderon, PG LAL 14 13.9 -1.18 -0.84 -2.02 0.13
    326 Hollis Thompson, SF PHI 30 18.6 -0.82 -1.22 -2.04 0.35
    327 Michael Gbinije, SG DET 8 3.6 -1.61 -0.43 -2.04 0.02
    328 Tony Parker, PG SA 24 25.5 -1.29 -0.76 -2.05 0.37
    329 Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, SG PHI 20 7.4 -2.03 -0.02 -2.05 0.09
    330 John Lucas III, PG MIN 5 2.2 -1.40 -0.66 -2.06 0.01
    331 Anthony Bennett, PF BKN 22 11.9 -0.72 -1.37 -2.09 0.18
    332 T.J. McConnell, PG PHI 32 20.4 -2.20 0.09 -2.11 0.39



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    Porker killed us in OT.

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    Tony doesn't matter tbh... it's evident that the Spurs can't survive a bad night from LMA/Kawhi against relatively good teams (which are not many, tbh). It makes complete sense, based on how this team is built.
    This. He really doesn't ing matter. The team is a Kawhi/LMA centric offense, has been for two years. Not the prettiest style in today's NBA but it's our best chance. That's what we need to gamble on not on a 35 year old PG, who's known for heroballing having a high usage rate. Paddy is a better option, not because he's a better pure PG or playmaker but because he compliments the offense we have in place best. Or at the very least knows his role.

    I mean Enrique would matter if he was someone that was ok with just helping shoulder the load. Sort of what Manu does when he's having a good game. That's not Enrique though, it never has been. If he plays well he'll try to force his way into having just as prominent of a role as Kawhi/LMA. Him having a major role was a disaster in 2015 and it'll be an even bigger one now.

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    But honestly after some time to cool off, both sides are overreacting.

    Like mid said, he's a sore asscheek away from reverting back to player we all love to hate. It's pretty foolish for people to think he'll keep playing well and it was equally foolish on my part to think he's capable of forcing his way into a major role. Washed up players show glimpses of what they once were all the time. It's being consistent that's the problem for them.

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    Except he plays great with Kawhi. We'd blow teams out in the playoffs and wouldn't rely in our bench in the playoffs much anyways. got.

    Thinking gambling on porker is a winning formula. got.
    Do you do any research?

    Mills is decidedly worse when entering for Parker straight up.

    -10 vs. +60



    Now look at the unit with the second most minutes, our main bench unit. See how effective they are? Essentially blow games open/make up scoring. Removing House from that equation would kill that unit.

    Furthermore, units with House/Manu don't even perform that well with the starters. Strangely, House and Fathead at the PG and SG perform best among the starters, which proves my theory that for House to be an effective starter, he needs to be paired with a playmaking SG that isn't 70 years old. Though the House/Manu pairing destroys other bench units, again proving my theory that House functions best alongside a playmaking SG.

    Once again, you want House starting, tell Pop to bench D-League in favor of someone who can penetrate/playmake.

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    Do you do any research?

    Mills is decidedly worse when entering for Parker straight up.

    -10 vs. +60



    Now look at the unit with the second most minutes, our main bench unit. See how effective they are? Essentially blow games open/make up scoring. Removing House from that equation would kill that unit.

    Furthermore, units with House/Manu don't even perform that well with the starters. Strangely, House and Fathead at the PG and SG perform best among the starters, which proves my theory that for House to be an effective starter, he needs to be paired with a playmaking SG that isn't 70 years old. Though the House/Manu pairing destroys other bench units, again proving my theory that House functions best alongside a playmaking SG.

    Once again, you want House starting, tell Pop to bench D-League in favor of someone who can penetrate/playmake.
    The starting unit lost 1 player. The second unit has changed 3 guys.

    Sample size.

    Show the splits with Kawhi and Patty.

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    Why did you post a pic and not a link?

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    No wonder this dude is such a ladies man

    He's been playing well lately, averaging 18 and 5 dimes on 51% over his last 4, and 12ppg on 48% over his last 10, which is more than acceptable.

    Once again, like a poker player committed to a pot, we're priced in on him and just have to hope he holds up like a pair of Aces facing a draw heavy board. Patty House is not a in' starter, and the rubes who back him as one need to get that through their thick skulls. Patty is also back to his 1 good game out of every 5 routine. He's just not consistent enough. He's also too short to defend like 99% of the starting PGs in the league. as a backup, but that's it.

    I do wish we had another option, of course. A strained ass cheek here or a tummy ache there, and Parker's game falls off a cliff. But we don't, so like last year, I'm willing to gamble. If he can give us that consistent 12-13ppg on good efficiency, while the rest play up to par, we have a puncher's chance.
    Well said . My thoughts on Kawhi are just the opposite. Just when you think you're in, he pulls you out again. No wonder why he's an introvert. Once again, like a poker player committed to a pot, we're priced in on him and just have to hope he learns how to hit a layup in the clutch like a pair of Aces facing a draw heavy board. Kyle Anderson is not a in' starter, and the rubes who back him as one need to get that through their thick skulls. I do wish we had another option, of course. A sore tooth here or swamp ass there, and Kawhi's game falls off a cliff.

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    Mills is decidedly worse when entering for Parker straight up.

    -10 vs. +60



    Now look at the unit with the second most minutes, our main bench unit. See how effective they are? Essentially blow games open/make up scoring. Removing House from that equation would kill that unit.

    Furthermore, units with House/Manu don't even perform that well with the starters. Strangely, House and Fathead at the PG and SG perform best among the starters, which proves my theory that for House to be an effective starter, he needs to be paired with a playmaking SG that isn't 70 years old. Though the House/Manu pairing destroys other bench units, again proving my theory that House functions best alongside a playmaking SG.

    Once again, you want House starting, tell Pop to bench D-League in favor of someone who can penetrate/playmake.
    That second unit is +40 in 50 minutes. That means the first unit in 52.4 minutes, they would be +13.

    +40 >>>>>>>>>>> +13

    Lets just start the second unit ASAP. I love your stats.

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    That second unit is +40 in 50 minutes. That means the first unit in 52.4 minutes, they would be +13.

    +40 >>>>>>>>>>> +13

    Lets just start the second unit ASAP. I love your stats.
    Are you re ed? I already stated how great the first bench unit is. But you always neglect that they are largely playing against BENCHES.

    As for which PG works best with Green, Leonard, LMA, and Gasol, it's Parker by by a good margin. Like I said, Patty ain't a starter.

    Again, you want House starting, phone in' Pop and tell him to sit D-League's ass.

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    You're a got with no life if you constantly come on this site to bash a player on your favorite team regardless who it is tbh..

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    Are you re ed? I already stated how great the first bench unit is. But you always neglect that they are largely playing against BENCHES.

    As for which PG works best with Green, Leonard, LMA, and Gasol, it's Parker by by a good margin. Like I said, Patty ain't a starter.

    Again, you want House starting, phone in' Pop and tell him to sit D-League's ass.
    Almost like RPM takes into effect everything. Patty House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Porker.

    Betting on a complete player.

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    Why did you post a pic and not a link?
    Spinning so bad

    http://www.82games.com/1617/1617SAS2.HTM

    "House needs to start! He'll transform the starters!"

    *stats say House is a -9 with the starters*

    "Ugh, ugh...where's your link!"



    Take the L, bro.

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    Almost like RPM takes into effect everything. Patty House >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Porker.

    Betting on a complete player.
    RPM also has Jon Leuer over Porzingis

    I've already explained how flawed RPM is. It misapplies Bayesian inference.

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    Spinning so bad

    http://www.82games.com/1617/1617SAS2.HTM

    "House needs to start! He'll transform the starters!"

    *stats say House is a -9 with the starters*

    "Ugh, ugh...where's your link!"



    Take the L, bro.
    I guess that third unit would be the best STARTING UNIT. The rate is even HIGHER THAN OUR NORMAL STARTING UNIT.

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