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    Jordan was greatest individual scorer of all time.

    Kobe is second.

    Lebron is greatest all-around player of all time. I would say Bird is second but honestly it doesnt matter. No one else is really even close.
    Dont ever post in any of my threads ever. Your basketbal re ness has ruined the average IQ score of this thread. you. And take your ty takes to reddit or some other gay site like Realgm.

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    Today's NBA
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    Jordan was greatest individual scorer of all time.

    Kobe is second.


    Lebron is greatest all-around player of all time. I would say Bird is second but honestly it doesnt matter. No one else is really even close.

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    RIP

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    0:49... today's NBA stars letting sports analysts do this to them and having it get in their head


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    Jordan was greatest individual scorer of all time.

    Kobe is second.

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    There are actually more similarities between Jordan and Lebron.

    Both got manhandled by the Celtics before they went crying to daddy (Stern for Jordan, SuperFriends for Lebron).
    Both struggled against physical defense and benefited from the league tweaking rules to help them dominate more (NBA rules changed FOR Jordan, NBA continued to changed rules and Lebron just benefited from it along with all the other perimeter based players).
    Both had ugly jumpshots and questionable range at the start of the careers, and both fixed the jumpers later on.
    Both relied on brute physical dominance at the beginning of the careers, and then transitioned to a more skills and ref based game later on to continue dominance.
    Both are slaves of Nike.
    Both went bald because of PEDs
    Both went through unnatural muscle gains as they grew older
    Both choked in the finals ... oh sorry, only one did.

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    There are actually more similarities between Jordan and Lebron.

    Both got manhandled by the Celtics before they went crying to daddy (Stern for Jordan, SuperFriends for Lebron).
    Both struggled against physical defense and benefited from the league tweaking rules to help them dominate more (NBA rules changed FOR Jordan, NBA continued to changed rules and Lebron just benefited from it along with all the other perimeter based players).
    Both had ugly jumpshots and questionable range at the start of the careers, and both fixed the jumpers later on.
    Both relied on brute physical dominance at the beginning of the careers, and then transitioned to a more skills and ref based game later on to continue dominance.
    Both are slaves of Nike.
    Both went bald because of PEDs
    Both went through unnatural muscle gains as they grew older
    Both choked in the finals ... oh sorry, only one did.
    I think CN agrees

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    I don't have a problem saying today's NBAers are softer, tbh, I don't think I've ever denied that..it's a positive thing, though..

    The majority of yesterday's NBAers were low-skilled, unathletic players that had to rely on their "toughness" and their inadequacies were masked by handchecking, slow pace and ugly physicality that ruined the game..of course they had to be "tough", that was one of their only positive traits not to mention that nearly 30% of the league consisted of White American players, meaning they had to have "heart" and "grit" to stay on the court(in reality, it was politics, though, but everybody knows how disadvantaged White athletes are labeled, such as having "deceptive speed", etc)..

    Using social media examples is silly, though..if there was social media in yesterday's league, the problems would be faaaaarrrr worse, considering the a large chunk of the players were sociopaths and criminals..

    It's pretty embarrassing to look back at some of the players that were popular in the 90s, tbh..the top 3 players of that generation(Dad Killer, Olajuwon and Malone) were murderers and pedophiles..I don't know how you can look at yourself in the mirror after openly cheering for somebody of that nature..that's just the superstars, too..

    The highest rated series in NBA history was the 1998 Finals with an 18.7 number..29 million people tuned in to watch a series where the 2nd best player was known to have had sex with and impregnated a 12-year old girl
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    Yesterday's NBAer and top 5 pick Jim Jackson confirming how difficult it must be to play in the social media era:


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    Michael GOATdan would have handled social media well

    Non issue

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    I was watching the world Darts finals today and realized how much the sport has progressed. 10 years ago if you averaged 100 in a game, you're most likely going to win.

    Nowadys the compe ion is much more fierce. People lose games averaging 109 .....The best Dart Player in the world who is pretty much breaking every record every game and consensus that in a va he is the best ever said he wants to win 5 championships..now the mainstream GOAT has won 16..winning championships avergaing high 90s..you cant even make it to the tournament with thosr averages in todays game.

    So that led me thinking about the NBA and Coon Jordan's comp ion and main rivals in the 90s and compare it to Lebron...

    Jordan main wing rival...

    Clyde drexler who wasnt even a top 7 player, Jeff Hornacek?

    Lebron's wing rival

    Durant - Best Scoring win ever
    Leonard - Only wing superstar to win two DPOY, finals MVP and average 24
    T-mac - Prolific scorer
    Kobe - 5 time champions and one time MVP
    Harden - Third best offensive SG ever
    Wade - 5 time champion and Finals MVP


    -"Face it fellas, the skill level of today's players are much higher.
    Tbh you can't really list all those western conference wings as "rivals" when he only plays them twice a year. So of that entire list Wade was the only true rival, and yet even then he never played against him in the post season and eventually left Cleveland and joined his team.

    He also never played Kobe or T-Mac in the post season. Only Kawhi twice and he sucked against him most of the time and Durant/Harden just once before their peaks when OKC fluked into the Finals with tremendous ref assistance against a much better team the round before.

    So, rivals? What rivals? He keeps choosing to play in the weaker conference to avoid them all.

    Clyde Drexler was an excellent player too btw. Don't show your ignorance by hating. He would be getting plenty of MVP votes this year with the stats he was putting up in his prime from 87-92.

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    It doesn't matter what other players at his position did. It matters what he did to other teams. He destroyed them. He told them he was going to, they knew it, and they still could do anything about it. If Jordan had prime Shaq, the NBA would be ed still.

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    I was watching the world Darts finals today and realized how much the sport has progressed. 10 years ago if you averaged 100 in a game, you're most likely going to win.

    Nowadys the compe ion is much more fierce. People lose games averaging 109 .....The best Dart Player in the world who is pretty much breaking every record every game and consensus that in a va he is the best ever said he wants to win 5 championships..now the mainstream GOAT has won 16..winning championships avergaing high 90s..you cant even make it to the tournament with thosr averages in todays game.

    So that led me thinking about the NBA and Coon Jordan's comp ion and main rivals in the 90s and compare it to Lebron...

    Jordan main wing rival...

    Clyde drexler who wasnt even a top 7 player, Jeff Hornacek?

    Lebron's wing rival

    Durant - Best Scoring win ever
    Leonard - Only wing superstar to win two DPOY, finals MVP and average 24
    T-mac - Prolific scorer
    Kobe - 5 time champions and one time MVP
    Harden - Third best offensive SG ever
    Wade - 5 time champion and Finals MVP


    -"Face it fellas, the skill level of today's players are much higher.
    His rival in the playoffs was John freaking Starks, lol. Uh... yeah. John Starks.

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    It would be cool to see how Bird and MJ would fare in today's Twinkball, especially if using the type of PEDs flowing through Lebron. Granted they'd have to grow ridiculous beards as well.

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    every time this conversation comes up, I just chuckle a little bit when people discredits jordan tbh. I mean we're in a generation where guys like jimmy butler, demar derozan and klay Thompson are considered elite.



    jordan won't be hailed as the unanimous best player today though, that's for sure. I mean, I'd still pick this years LeBron over a prime jordan, tbh. ive been watching the nba for about 20 years now, and I can honestly say I've never seen a player that can impact the game more than LeBron (prime shaq a strong second, peak non choking version of steph curry third) just calling a spade, a spade tbh.

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    every time this conversation comes up, I just chuckle a little bit when people discredits jordan tbh. I mean we're in a generation where guys like jimmy butler, demar derozan and klay Thompson are considered elite.



    jordan won't be hailed as the unanimous best player today though, that's for sure. I mean, I'd still pick this years LeBron over a prime jordan, tbh. ive been watching the nba for about 20 years now, and I can honestly say I've never seen a player that can impact the game more than LeBron (prime shaq a strong second, peak non choking version of steph curry third) just calling a spade, a spade tbh.
    I will say this: Jordan was the only player that made me fear, every time the ball was even near him. And the Spurs did well against them.
    Kobe was close... But MJ was pure fear.
    Harden? Westbrook? Curry?
    They're good, but not Pure Fear.

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    I will say this: Jordan was the only player that made me fear, every time the ball was even near him. And the Spurs did well against them.
    Kobe was close... But MJ was pure fear.
    Harden? Westbrook? Curry?
    They're good, but not Pure Fear.
    yeah. i know its cliché but jordan had that going for him. curry too but on a lower scale.

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    Kobe is a rival even though they never played in a playoff series? Pierce doesn't exist?

    OP still a moron.
    Pierce is LeBron's all-time biggest rival, IMO. Not sure it's even close.

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    BESIDES gary payton, those jordan stoppers wannabe, how many of them actually won a dpoy or appeared on any all defensive teams? lol playing against bs

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    I mean we're in a generation where guys like jimmy butler, demar derozan and klay Thompson are considered elite.


    .
    today's NBA

    Butler
    glorified Blue Edwards

    DeRozan
    10 year old Vince Carter

    Klay Thompson
    Dan Majerle after his face got hit by a bus

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    BESIDES gary payton, those jordan stoppers wannabe, how many of them actually won a dpoy or appeared on any all defensive teams? lol playing against bs
    So playing against the Pistons was BS? And the Celtics?

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    So playing against the Pistons was BS? And the Celtics?
    imagine Klay or Durant againsst Rodman, Dumars, Mahorn, Laimbeer , Salley

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