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    Kyle's a better defender than PJ. So if it's coming down to D, I'd rather have him.
    Kyle is a better help defender who's laterally challenged & doesn't have the strength to guard 4s on the block but knows how to use his length, Tucker is a better 1-on-1 defender who has just enough lateral speed to check 3s & the strength to defend in the post against 4s.
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    Kyle is a better help defender who's laterally challenged & doesn't have the strength to guard 4s on the block but knows how to use his length, Tucker is a better 1-on-1 defender who has just enough lateral speed to check 3s & the strength to defend in the post against 4s.
    Nah, Kyle's a good one-on-one defender as well. There are people who he can't guard, but those guys aren't the ones Tucker would play anyway. And he acquits himself just fine on the block, as he's great at using what he as to defend.
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    Fathead is trash 1 on 1 defender.

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    Casspi fits perfectly. We already have the SG rotation set. We have 4 bigs, which is all we need for the playoffs, with 3 players who can play spot minutes at the 4. What we really need is a backup 3, preferably someone who can shoot.

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    Nah, Kyle's a good one-on-one defender as well. There are people who he can't guard, but those guys aren't the ones Tucker would play anyway. And he acquits himself just fine on the block, as he's great at using what he as to defend.
    Kyle's 1-on-1 defense is mostly reaching around when he gets beat off the dribble & he plays in a disciplined defense where he knows he has help defense mostly in the form of Dedmon which allows him to play angles. If Kyle played on the Nets, he would get exposed.

    Kyle trying to guard Durant last season was like watching a baby seal getting clubbed:



    Meanwhile, PJ Tucker:


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    Kyle's 1-on-1 defense is mostly reaching around when he gets beat off the dribble & he plays in a disciplined defense where he knows he has help defense mostly in the form of Dedmon which allows him to play angles. If Kyle played on the Nets, he would get exposed.

    Kyle trying to guard Durant last season was like watching a baby seal getting clubbed:



    Meanwhile, PJ Tucker:

    One of these days, you'll realize that highlight videos (especially biased ones like in this case) aren't great evidence for trends.

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    One of these days, you'll realize that highlight videos (especially biased ones like in this case) aren't great evidence for trends.
    I'm sorry I couldn't find an upload of the ENTIRE game so had to settle for highlights.
    Meanwhile, I'll depend on DRPM to tell me Kyle/Simmons are elite defenders & Kawhi is a negative since on/off says so.

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    I'm sorry I couldn't find an upload of the ENTIRE game so had to settle for highlights.
    Meanwhile, I'll depend on DRPM to tell me Kyle/Simmons are elite defenders & Kawhi is a negative since on/off says so.
    That's much better than using Durant highlights on one side and Tucker highlights on the other. That'll almost certainly be 100-percent biased. I don't know if there's a stat that'll put Tucker above Kyle, though.

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    That's much better than using Durant highlights on one side and Tucker highlights on the other.
    Why would I highlight something pretty ordinary as Kyle scoring 7 pts in a blowout or Durant scoring 23 points on 21 shots in a tight game?

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    Why would I highlight something pretty ordinary as Kyle scoring 7 pts in a blowout or Durant scoring 23 points on 21 shots in a tight game?
    Because, if you show Durant highlights, you'll exclusively see KD's successes. If you show Tucker highlights against KD, you'll see only KD failures.

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    Because, if you show Durant highlights, you'll exclusively see KD's successes. If you show Tucker highlights against KD, you'll see only KD failures.


    Dominos unable to score 1-on-1 against Tucker so had to use picks to force switches:


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    There are people who he can't guard, but those guys aren't the ones Tucker would play anyway.


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    Dominos unable to score 1-on-1 against Tucker so had to use picks to force switches:

    I dunno. Those vids seem pretty clear that Durant is having his way with the whole team. In that highlight of Durant against Anderson, he scored three times on Kyle and got a lot of switches.

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    [tweet809079373861179392[/tweet]

    So the Spurs are going to play the Knicks in the Finals again? The guys I'm talking about are PGs and fast SGs. Those aren't for either Anderson or Tucker. I'd be happy bringing in a guard-defender for that purpose. But not another forward.

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    Imagine Kyle bringing "Dat Nasty":


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    Imagine Kyle bringing "Dat Nasty":

    Why worry about Kyle doing that then they've already got Bertans?

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    Why worry about Kyle doing that then they've already got Bertans?
    Bertans is getting DNPs in garbage time so he's a lost cause as far as the postseason.

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    Bertans is getting DNPs in garbage time so he's a lost cause as far as the postseason.
    But he can punch people when he's in a suit.

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    I dunno. Those vids seem pretty clear that Durant is having his way with the whole team. In that highlight of Durant against Anderson, he scored three times on Kyle and got a lot of switches.
    Dominos barely used any picks when Kyle was guarding him while he did the opposite against Tucker. He also doesn't want any part of Tucker in the post.

    LoL at Dominos scoring only 3 buckets against Kyle when it was more than half his buckets including a couple of possessions where Kyle lost him when he was supposed to trail.

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    Dominos barely used any picks when Kyle was guarding him while he did the opposite against Tucker. He also doesn't want any part of Tucker in the post.

    LoL at Dominos scoring only 3 buckets against Kyle when it was more than half his buckets including a couple of possessions where Kyle lost him when he was supposed to trail.
    Four times. And the Spurs were switching everything, not trailing. KD iso'd once and posted up once.

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    Man pointless discussion about a guy who's unlikely to get cut, traded maybe, but cut is just unnecessary, and another guy who is very unlikely to be a Spur...
    One problem in signing someone bought out is that those guys want a chance at playing time and at least some role. If his best chance is to be a 11-12th guy why would he join this team? In fact Martin had a much more clear path to playing time as a designated shooter and got ALOT of opportunities to earn it and didn't. Unless you were discussing Tucker (or someone else) vs Simmons, how does that even help the Spurs or makes it worth it for Tucker? He's better off staying put in Phoenix frankly...

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    I have this warm feeling that Splitter could be back, considering Hawks going on a fire sale. They will buy him out. He is unrestricted next year. He should be back playing in February. I can't imagine any other team besting us. Teams can't even promise him minutes as he will be on heavy minute restrictions upon returning.

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    I have this warm feeling that Splitter could be back, considering Hawks going on a fire sale. They will buy him out. He is unrestricted next year. He should be back playing in February. I can't imagine any other team besting us. Teams can't even promise him minutes as he will be on heavy minute restrictions upon returning.
    i wouldnt mind him coming back if he doesnt get hurt of course.

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    i wouldnt mind him coming back if he doesnt get hurt of course.
    I'm not sure I'd even want to waste a roster spot on him due to all his injury issues.

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