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    Was a Kyle fan but his inability to shoot the three really makes the team go stagnant on offense.

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    Was a Kyle fan but his inability to shoot the three really makes the team go stagnant on offense.
    Hes a ball handler with a team that still has Manu and Parker. I think he knows that hes more for the future than right now, seeing that he was signed beyond this year.

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    Hes a ball handler with a team that still has Manu and Parker. I think he knows that hes more for the future than right now, seeing that he was signed beyond this year.
    Nope.

    He can handle the ball, yes but he doesn't have the speed, change of direction acceleration to be effective with the ball unless its against college or D League talent ( only because of his size/length -- which the NBA has a lot of to negate his size advantage).

    Also, he was signed to a rookie deal back 3 years ago ( that's the current deal he's on -- which has one more year left). Your post implies that the Spurs recently signed him for their future and that couldn't be more wrong. Times running out for him, he may be traded for a protected 2nd rounder as soon as this summer.

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    Bertans has such a deceptive athletic ability..really surprised the most by his first-step attack and rim-soaring..

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    Nope.

    He can handle the ball, yes but he doesn't have the speed, change of direction acceleration to be effective with the ball unless its against college or D League talent ( only because of his size/length -- which the NBA has a lot of to negate his size advantage).

    Also, he was signed to a rookie deal back 3 years ago ( that's the current deal he's on -- which has one more year left). Your post implies that the Spurs recently signed him for their future and that couldn't be more wrong. Times running out for him, he may be traded for a protected 2nd rounder as soon as this summer.
    He wasnt signed but they exercised their fourth year option so he can play next season. Reason being Im thinking is because hes meant to take Manus place.

    And I would say that hes more gangly than slow. A giraffe looks slow too but they could outrun all of us. What he does have though is good hand quickness and good hand-eye coordination. He also has good touch. As we can see from SAgirls GIF pass to Aldridge, he can go full speed (stop it) and then drop off a soft pass in the right spot.

    The only concern of mine is his lack of outside shot and lack of aggressiveness.

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    Love watching dat ball. Sucks Spurs hung on to Matt Bonner Basketball! dat long.

    kyle is so ing meh

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    He wasnt signed but they exercised their fourth year option so he can play next season. Reason being Im thinking is because hes meant to take Manus place.

    And I would say that hes more gangly than slow. A giraffe looks slow too but they could outrun all of us. What he does have though is good hand quickness and good hand-eye coordination. He also has good touch. As we can see from SAgirls GIF pass to Aldridge, he can go full speed (stop it) and then drop off a soft pass in the right spot.

    The only concern of mine is his lack of outside shot and lack of aggressiveness.
    He was exercised because it was a no brainer since he's due barely over 1 million which is less than 1% of the market share of the cap. He wasn't exercised to be a Manu replacement. They couldn't be more different players and Anderson isn't even close to 39 yr old Manu. He's the 12th guy on this roster. Very low risk to exercise his option for one year, and I highly highly doubt the Spurs have some great future plans for him to be Manus replacement as the bench creator for years to come. He's simply not good enough to be the guy off the bench for a playoff team, much less a contender.

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    lmao Kyle as Manu's replacement. Now I've heard it all. Even over the hill Manu is quicker, more skilled, and valuable than Kyle is in just about every facet of the game. You could argue rebounding but, 1-on-1, I might just take Manu to grab the rebound over slow, passionless Fathead.

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    This commentary is stupid. All of you. I was at the game last night and almost every night. Bertans can play, Kyle just can't. End of story. What else? Close this discussion.

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    This commentary is stupid. All of you. I was at the game last night and almost every night. Bertans can play, Kyle just can't. End of story. What else? Close this discussion.
    I agree. To address the point of the thread, even if you do give Bertans all of Kyle's minutes, what is the result - an additional 2 minutes in garbage time? Kyle is like the 14th man on the bench - give him Patty's old towel to wave.

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    Bertrans definitely needs to play the 3...dude is athletic enough...and that allows Lee to play, who is a great passer

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    Lol at the kyle is a ballhandler on a team with parker and manu narrative.

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    Bertan's need more mins period......

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    Lol at the kyle is a ballhandler on a team with parker and manu narrative.

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    Said in postgame last night he grew up as a backcourt guy. Wonder when he had his growth spurt.
    Not sure when he had his main growth spurt, but I read somewhere he's grown 2 inches since the Spurs got his rights in 2011 (when he was only 18). Which is part of the reason people expected a 6'8" SF and got a 6'10" PF.

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    Does ball handler = can dribble ball up court to you guys?

    Bc that's pretty much the extent of Kyle handling the ball. Its not like hes out there running p&r, or causing defenses to move around by his penetration.

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    Not sure when he had his main growth spurt, but I read somewhere he's grown 2 inches since the Spurs got his rights in 2011 (when he was only 18). Which is part of the reason people expected a 6'8" SF and got a 6'10" PF.
    He should still play as sf .. Green Kawhi Bertans Dedmon Aldridge would just be insane defensively

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    Well, as a BB expert, you can certainly argue that point. I can see his flaws as well, but so far the judgement of the coaching staff is that he is worth some minutes on a winning team. That doesn't mean he will be taking the roster spot forever, but they are OK with him this season.
    KA has average 7 mpg in the last 4 games. His minutes have been steadily declining (with now only a game here and there where he'll get to play 20 minutes). I truly hope he's in the doghouse for good. As somebody said, it doesn't matter if he's a good player or not at this point, there are simply more talented players than him on the roster, making him redundant.

    I like the Mahinmi example: this guy wasn't bad, but it didn't make sense for the Spurs to wait for him that long and pay him that much in the end (in case some of you aren't aware, he's earning $16MM per year).

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    Lol at the kyle is a ballhandler on a team with parker and manu narrative.
    That's the next myth we have to bust

    His first two years, his pumpers tried to run with the "he has high bball IQ " lie

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    That's the next myth we have to bust

    His first two years, his pumpers tried to run with the "he has high bball IQ " lie
    if only pop stopped coddling a guy who paid $150 to try out for the toros

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    I don't know if Bertans can be a three in the NBA. I do know that his lateral quickness doesn't match his vertical. Seeing as the backup SF for many teams is usually a guard, it's tough to see him and Lee as defensive forwards being successful. You combine that with the fact that his shooting helps the team more from the four than the five and you get why folks want him there instead of SF.

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    I don't know if Bertans can be a three in the NBA. I do know that his lateral quickness doesn't match his vertical. Seeing as the backup SF for many teams is usually a guard, it's tough to see him and Lee as defensive forwards being successful. You combine that with the fact that his shooting helps the team more from the four than the five and you get why folks want him there instead of SF.
    Despite by all accounts successful and unusually determined rehabs, two knee injuries has to have affected his lateral quickness to some degree. Fortunately, as I mentioned above, Davis grew two more inches since he was acquired at 18 in 2011. Going from 6'8" to 6'10" allows him to more easily move from SF to PF where he seems plenty athletic enough, especially if he's a backup. The question is can he, and should he, add bulk for the position or would that be bad for his knee and shorten his career.

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    if only pop stopped coddling a guy who paid $150 to try out for the toros
    I might agree he wasn't coddled, but it turns out that it's part of the fabric of the universe and can't be rewritten at this point.

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    Despite by all accounts successful and unusually determined rehabs, two knee injuries has to have affected his lateral quickness to some degree. Fortunately, as I mentioned above, Davis grew two more inches since he was acquired at 18 in 2011. Going from 6'8" to 6'10" allows him to more easily move from SF to PF where he seems plenty athletic enough, especially if he's a backup.
    Indeed, though you have to wonder how much weight he would be able to gain while staying healthy and how that weight would affect his ability to run off screens, which really needs to be something the Spurs do with him starting next season at the latest.

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    I don't know if Bertans can be a three in the NBA. I do know that his lateral quickness doesn't match his vertical. Seeing as the backup SF for many teams is usually a guard, it's tough to see him and Lee as defensive forwards being successful. You combine that with the fact that his shooting helps the team more from the four than the five and you get why folks want him there instead of SF.
    And Kyle Andersons' lateral quickness? Funny how Anderson gets a pass. Every game I've seen him play this year, Bertans does more than a fine job staying in-front of his man when there's a switch on a wing. He has similar lateral quickness as Kyle, except he's a better athlete than Kyle in the Parsons mold to a degree. Not only all this, but Bertans' skillset on offense fits at the SF a lot more than Kyle's does.

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