China slams Rex Tillerson

[DMC]

Not even remotely comparable.

Right because she lost the election.

[DMC]

trite? you think the South China Sea is trite to China?

go read a book for a change

You think it's about the South China Sea?

They are just parroting what Trump said about nuclear options. Oh noes! Sabre rattling sends Hater spelunking! Quick, call Alex Jones and get you a year supply of food and water, the nuclear fallout will only last a short while.

[hater]

You think it's about the South China Sea?

They are just parroting what Trump said about nuclear options. Oh noes! Sabre rattling sends Hater spelunking! Quick, call Alex Jones and get you a year supply of food and water, the nuclear fallout will only last a short while.

what an idiot

If US stops Chinese access to the South China Sea Islands it's war. plain and simple

don't be so stupid

[DMC]

what an idiot

If US stops Chinese access to the South China Sea Islands it's war. plain and simple

don't be so stupid

lol if the US can "stop China" how much war can they wage?

[Winehole23]

I said Trump saved us from immediate war. But the MIC + Intelligence agencies are formidabble.

They want ensured world domination for the next 100 years and that means dismantling Russia + China the last 2 obstacles towards thats.

you sound like boutons

[SnakeBoy]

Even if Assad was in control of the entire country, it would not be liberated as a butcher would be in control.

Understand this:
As long as Iran has a say in that country, which it does, Assad is under two thumbs. Iran has groups on the ground. Russia has the air. Now add Turkey. That's 3 thumbs. You think this is some sort of liberation? You got 3 different countries gonna run your .

All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

[pgardn]

For gay marriage
Against gay marriage
For NAFTA
Against NAFTA
Moderate
Progressive

sound familiar?

In a 24 hr period?

[hater]

All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

Bingo. As another poster said Syria was weeks or days from being toppled by ISIS and Al Qaeda. Russia turned the tide as I predicted. And of course got real

[pgardn]

um. Assad and Damascus was weeks from falling to jihad if not for Russia. That's a fact

Yes and so....
this means the people of Syria are now liberated?

I don't think so. They don't even have homes left in Aleppo.

[hater]

ISIS defeated, Russian jetfighter shot down, Russian airliner bombed, Turkish president almost killed, Russian ambassador killed, Obama and Saudi army of jihadists butt ed, Hitlery defeated , Trump elected

Yeah didnt get real

[pgardn]

All of that makes our current desire to impose regime change in Syria a dumb idea. Syria isn't going to be liberated period. Stability is the best that can be hoped for and Assad is the only option for stability.

Assad can only bring about stable butchery in part of Syria. And stable butchery in the ME is very tenuous, even without interference from the West. Stable butchery also helps in the genesis of new types of movements and young disillusioned men IMO. Egypt is a milder example now.It is however nice that controlled portions of Syria and Egypt would be less likely to become training grounds.

So should we be aiding in Iraq now trying to impose stability? As an aside...

[pgardn]

ISIS defeated, Russian jetfighter shot down, Russian airliner bombed, Turkish president almost killed, Russian ambassador killed, Obama and Saudi army of jihadists butt ed, Hitlery defeated , Trump elected

Yeah didnt get real

What about CIVILIANS dead in Syria? getting real to you is ambassadors getting killed.

ISIS is not yet defeated. And the US is responsible for brining ISIS to their knees, not Russia you clueless bas . It's not even remotely close.
So where is China in the ME since your predictions got all excited when they sent a boat? You love head lines.

Think about families that just want to be left alone. You act as some sort of humanitarian looking for super heros outside of the US. Like Russia even cares when they bomb. Like Assad even worries about the cost of people outside the cost of barrel bombs and gas.

[in2deep]

What about CIVILIANS dead in Syria? getting real to you is ambassadors getting killed.

ISIS is not yet defeated. And the US is responsible for brining ISIS to their knees, not Russia you clueless bas . It's not even remotely close.
So where is China in the ME since your predictions got all excited when they sent a boat? You love head lines.

Think about families that just want to be left alone. You act as some sort of humanitarian looking for super heros outside of the US. Like Russia even cares when they bomb. Like Assad even worries about the cost of people outside the cost of barrel bombs and gas.

Um hundreds of thousands of civilians died in the Iraq war, lybia had lots of civilian deaths

im sure Obama, Hillary and Bush were very concerned at this

and I hear about 1 in 2 deaths in Mosul are civilians. Its a war in cities. Civilians are dying wether by US or Russian bombs equally

[CosmicCowboy]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.

[DMC]

In a 24 hr period?

That matters? Trump is also male, is that also an exemption? Politicians lie, WOW. Their 1st order of business is to entrench themselves and their friends as deeply into the office as possible to retain power. WOW. All these revelations now? Who knew?

[in2deep]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.

Problem is we never played nice. Organizing coups, installing puppets and theatening war if they dont fall in line is everything but nice. We been doing that since the 50s

[ElNono]

The US has a dismal record on exporting democracy despite our kumbaya fantasies. That whole region of the world is just too tribally and religiously fractured to play nice.

Exactly. The US was always better served to cordon off the area and let them go at it themselves. It's difficult though, because you have Turkey, Russia, China, etc all hopping in and trying to get their hands on the oil, but with the US having it's newlyfound oil bonanza, it makes little sense to get involved. The biggest issue, IMO, is Israel trying to drag out asses in there. This is an area where our relationship with Israel gets tiresome.

[pgardn]

That matters? Trump is also male, is that also an exemption? Politicians lie, WOW. Their 1st order of business is to entrench themselves and their friends as deeply into the office as possible to retain power. WOW. All these revelations now? Who knew?

yes it matters.

[pgardn]

Um hundreds of thousands of civilians died in the Iraq war, lybia had lots of civilian deaths

im sure Obama, Hillary and Bush were very concerned at this

and I hear about 1 in 2 deaths in Mosul are civilians. Its a war in cities. Civilians are dying wether by US or Russian bombs equally

Total bull .
Equally...

And where D id I say US intervention had not led to people dying? Where?

We Fd up big time under Bush when he and Cheney were told they would need over 300,000 troops to help the country after we had destroyed its ins utions and some infrastructure for civilians. They decided with a number that was absolutely ridiculous. We might have had to eventually split the country and oil revenues among the different factions which would have been super costly. It might have worked, it might not have, we will never know because it was done half assed.

And yes the US has stopped conflicts and brought about democracy. But it has been costly. The breakdown of Yugoslavia is an example with people highly divided region brought into a much better situation. It was basically accomplished by bombing Serb militias into submission.

[pgardn]

yes it matters.

It's about an abnormally impulsive personality for this type of business. We will see if it can be useful.

[DMC]

yes it matters.

So flip flopping on your position only matters if you do it in a 24 hour period, as if there was no 24 hour period in which Hillary's position actually changed.

The problem you have is that you are so accustomed to folks who have been groomed and their output vetted and genized to suit your palate. You're not ready for the real thoughts of a person, but yet you want change. People like you are why it's so hard for a real person to ever become POTUS.

[DMC]

Total bull .
Equally...

And where D id I say US intervention had not led to people dying? Where?

We Fd up big time under Bush when he and Cheney were told they would need over 300,000 troops to help the country after we had destroyed its ins utions and some infrastructure for civilians. They decided with a number that was absolutely ridiculous. We might have had to eventually split the country and oil revenues among the different factions which would have been super costly. It might have worked, it might not have, we will never know because it was done half assed.

And yes the US has stopped conflicts and brought about democracy. But it has been costly. The breakdown of Yugoslavia is an example with people highly divided region brought into a much better situation. It was basically accomplished by bombing Serb militias into submission.

Yeah, setting a deadline for withdrawal and advertising when you're pulling out had no basis on the insurgence that required reinsertion. Expecting non-military minds to choose military objectives over short term political gain is a futile endeavor but the liberal assholes seem afflicted with that mentality.

[pgardn]

Yeah, setting a deadline for withdrawal and advertising when you're pulling out had no basis on the insurgence that required reinsertion. Expecting non-military minds to choose military objectives over short term political gain is a futile endeavor but the liberal assholes seem afflicted with that mentality.

Again.

Doing things half assed.

OVER 300,000 troops needed. We did not send half. It started as an F up. Get that straight.

[pgardn]

So flip flopping on your position only matters if you do it in a 24 hour period, as if there was no 24 hour period in which Hillary's position actually changed.

The problem you have is that you are so accustomed to folks who have been groomed and their output vetted and genized to suit your palate. You're not ready for the real thoughts of a person, but yet you want change. People like you are why it's so hard for a real person to ever become POTUS.

Oh she got on her phone and tweeted it. yes it matters, don't be a clown. And don't be foolish. Hillary has her own huge problems. They just happen to be different than Donald. The problem with people like you is making idiotic comparisons.

A real person. Wtf is a real person? Donald is a REAL person?
Holy ...

[pgardn]

This is part of why Trump won.

This is what drives me totally nuts about liberals. They just don't get the lessons just slapped on them. This kind of exists in Universities and elsewhere and its corrosive stupidity.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1125725.html

And it takes a German to explain it well... This and the total inability of democrats not understanding the Bernie factor that Trump understood very well.