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    Murray is redundant as a backup since he offers what Tony offers in offense ( attacking) Mills the curveball the bench needs.


    If anything this game makes me pretty confident that Simmons is gone. Murray is probably going to eat simmons minutes next year.
    I disagree.

    Murray isnt redundant.

    Murray can play defense and be a net positive just on that end alone. Parker & Mills are negatives on that end.

    Meanwhile, on offense, Murray is multi dimensional. He can create seperation out of PnRs or breakdown the D in desperate Iso situations -- getting past his man, turning the corner and getting into the beautiful painted area. Hes also shown improvement from 3 shooting the ball.

    The only curveball Mills brings is hustle and streaky shooting while getting abused on the defensive end when it matters because hes just too small. Murray had a wider range of postives that can all be curveballs on both ends.

    As for next year, Spurs would be dumb making him get most of his minutes at the SG ( his size/ length wouldnt be an advantage on either end). He'd be most effective being the guy, the PG, on both ends of the floor. Defending PGs, and handling the O since hes already the player on the team who creates the most seperation out of the PnR.

    I hope the Spurs smell the roses and dont handcuff Murray in a situation to where they play him at a position where his ceiling is lower. All while, paying Prime Dana Barros/ Eddie House 50 million. That would be a mistake.

    Let Murray run the 2nd unit next year.
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    Inb4 SAGirl says she's being trolled and that she always knew Murray would be great.
    Lol troll
    I liked Murray b4 he was drafted. I wanted him to get drafted ... you can look that up... niglets in here acting like they discovered the earth is round in this day !

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    "(Murray) Can't handle real NBA pressure" -SAGirl


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    #FreeMurrayimotbhfwiw

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    I'd be surprised if he's ready to play playoff basketball against real defenses IMO(especially at the PG position, since he's so raw, in that regard), but I hope he gets a lot more reps during the regular season, at least..

    I'm looking more towards next season, though..hopefully he uses this season's reps to develop more well-rounded PG skills(doesn't have to be a pass-first PG or anything, but it's evident that he's raw at playing the position in the halfcourt in terms of pace control, playmaking for others, etc)..

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    Best backup PG on the team

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    Murray is redundant as a backup since he offers what Tony offers in offense ( attacking) Mills the curveball the bench needs.


    If anything this game makes me pretty confident that Simmons is gone. Murray is probably going to eat simmons minutes next year.
    Simmons will replace Manu, then Murray will replace Patty(who we won't resign)

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    Lol troll
    I liked Murray b4 he was drafted. I wanted him to get drafted ... I poster he was going to be the most impactful rookie when most thought it was Bertans... you can look that up... niglets in here acting like they discovered the earth is round in this day !
    ing lol

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    I thinks it's just a matter of time and him following whatever Kawhi's practice and workout regimens are.

    And if he can perfect that floater...

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    Murray is Parkers replacement.

    Hopefully sooner rather than later.

    Cheers

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    Lol troll
    I liked Murray b4 he was drafted. I wanted him to get drafted ... I poster he was going to be the most impactful rookie when most thought it was Bertans... you can look that up... niglets in here acting like they discovered the earth is round in this day !
    I clearly remember Murray was your guy. I wanted Brogdon drafted instead, but today's performance by Murray should cheer up all Spurs fans.

    FYI, some people still believe the earth is flat. Just Google "flat earth society".

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    Murray is shooting .10 3P% in DLeague and tonight was .60%? Big props to him.

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    I disagree.

    Murray isnt redundant.

    Murray can play defense and be a net positive just on that end alone. Parker & Mills are negatives on that end.

    Meanwhile, on offense, Murray is multi dimensional. He can create seperation out of PnRs or breakdown the D in desperate Iso situations -- getting past his man, turning the corner and getting into the beautiful painted area. Hes also shown improvement from 3 shooting the ball.

    The only curveball Mills brings is hustle and streaky shooting while getting abused on the defensive end when it matters because hes just too small. Murray had a wider range of postives that can all be curveballs on both ends.

    As for next year, Spurs would be dumb making him get most of his minutes at the SG ( his size/ length wouldnt be an advantage on either end). He'd be most effective being the guy, the PG, on both ends of the floor. Defending PGs, and handling the O since hes already the player on the team who creates the most seperation out of the PnR.

    I hope the Spurs smell the roses and dont handcuff Murray in a situation to where they play him at a position where his ceiling is lower. All while, paying Prime Dana Barros/ Eddie House 50 million. That would be a mistake.

    Let Murray run the 2nd unit next year.
    good post

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    I disagree.

    Murray isnt redundant.

    Murray can play defense and be a net positive just on that end alone. Parker & Mills are negatives on that end.

    Meanwhile, on offense, Murray is multi dimensional. He can create seperation out of PnRs or breakdown the D in desperate Iso situations -- getting past his man, turning the corner and getting into the beautiful painted area. Hes also shown improvement from 3 shooting the ball.

    The only curveball Mills brings is hustle and streaky shooting while getting abused on the defensive end when it matters because hes just too small. Murray had a wider range of postives that can all be curveballs on both ends.

    As for next year, Spurs would be dumb making him get most of his minutes at the SG ( his size/ length wouldnt be an advantage on either end). He'd be most effective being the guy, the PG, on both ends of the floor. Defending PGs, and handling the O since hes already the player on the team who creates the most seperation out of the PnR.

    I hope the Spurs smell the roses and dont handcuff Murray in a situation to where they play him at a position where his ceiling is lower. All while, paying Prime Dana Barros/ Eddie House 50 million. That would be a mistake.

    Let Murray run the 2nd unit next year.
    Great comparison

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    I like Murray, and he has a bright future, but he's still raw as , especially on D. On multiple occasions last night, he was fooled by a rip through, followed by a crossover in the opposite direction and was blown by like a mannequin. A 5'10", 90 YO Jameer Nelson should never be able to get past him, and he did it repeatedly.

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    I like Murray, and he has a bright future, but he's still raw as , especially on D. On multiple occasions last night, he was fooled by a rip through, followed by a crossover in the opposite direction and was blown by like a mannequin. A 5'10", 90 YO Jameer Nelson should never be able to get past him, and he did it repeatedly.
    Repeatedly isn't the right word, considering Nelson scored a whopping 5 points on 2 of 7 shooting.

    All the best defenders get beat off the dribble from time to time, and its not about one play here or one play there, it's about the big picture and Murray has the skillset to be a net positive defensively. As for last night, I thought he defended the PnR really well most of the time.

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    Anyone else feel like 5 or 6 of these gnsf are the same got?

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    Anyone else feel like 5 or 6 of these gnsf are the same got?
    Nolyfecatman tbh

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    Repeatedly isn't the right word, considering Nelson scored a whopping 5 points on 2 of 7 shooting.

    All the best defenders get beat off the dribble from time to time, and its not about one play here or one play there, it's about the big picture and Murray has the skillset to be a net positive defensively. As for last night, I thought he defended the PnR really well most of the time.
    When you blow by someone, you can do other things than score.

    It wasn't always Nelson. I just used his age and lack of height to make a point.

    I recognize that he has the skill set, and just said he was raw.

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    House will absolutely get massacred by Livingston.

    We just might have to gamble.
    This, the way Livingston has been increasing his productivity this season, and doing very well in the dismantling of the defending champ a few night ago off the bench, i really don't like the match up with Paddy if he can't regain the hot shooting hand by the time we meet them in the play off.

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