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    Well, I hope I'm wrong for what it's worth. Though, you're either being rather arrogant or have seen more than I have so far to be so sure.
    Mills has had plenty of opportunities to show that he is not a PG, has never been, will never be. Why some posters actually mention Mills in a PG discussion is beyond me. The Spurs PG rotation is not Parker/Mills but Parker/Manu.

    It's too early to say that Murray is good enough to be Parker's replacement. But if he's not, Mills certainly isn't the guy. So the future Spurs PG is either Murray, or somebody who isn't yet on the roster. That's why I'd rather have Murray get as many minutes as possible as early as possible, so that we know what's what as soon as possible. That's the silver lining of Parker's injury, and hopefully a blessing in disguise.

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    This boy is becoming a man.......right before our eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Omg, watch out NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Guys, cant you be happy even for one instant, we beat the Cavs!!!!

    bragging rights gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh , im so happppppppppppppppppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh , lol!

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    Mills has had plenty of opportunities to show that he is not a PG, has never been, will never be. Why some posters actually mention Mills in a PG discussion is beyond me. The Spurs PG rotation is not Parker/Mills but Parker/Manu.

    It's too early to say that Murray is good enough to be Parker's replacement. But if he's not, Mills certainly isn't the guy. So the future Spurs PG is either Murray, or somebody who isn't yet on the roster. That's why I'd rather have Murray get as many minutes as possible as early as possible, so that we know what's what as soon as possible. That's the silver lining of Parker's injury, and hopefully a blessing in disguise.
    Why posters try to claim Mills is not a PG is beyond me. Yes, he often plays more like a 2 guard (to an extent) when he's out there with Manu; but to call him not a PG is just silly. Just b/c he's not ball dominant like Parker or CoJo does not mean he is not a PG in any capacity. But maybe you have some nuanced definition of PG that I don't have.

    The problem I have with Murray at starting PG is not whether he is good enough. My problem is that I haven't seen him make others better to justify that type of promotion. It's too small a sample size though, and I'm not trying to make any declarative assertions either way. But I did not see most of the Den/Cle games yet either; that would help to shape my outlook better still yet.

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    We have a positive problem, we got three good point guards, hehe

    At least we are better off than most teams

    Look at New York, look at that team, poor Knicks, lol

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    You guys act like he hasn't already been playing against NBA talents... In the Summers with Crawford, an other NBA guys... No he's not a starter, but we see he's not scared. Everyone make mistakes.

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    Can Andre Miller be imported as a mentor to Murray??

    Jus askin guys

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    no doubt

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    He's surprised. Needs to tighten his handle a little though

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    He deserves a chance for some regular rotation minutes, but quite frankly I don't trust Pop to do it. This place will go ape when he gets nailed to the bench with "DNP coaches decision" with no explanation and no questions from the local media.

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    He had a good game, but the Cavs were giving him shots. If he keeps hitting them, teams will put a higher priority on him. Kudos for showing up on national tv though. This game showed me that Parker is still our only guard I trust handling the ball down the stretch. The other guys' handles looked shaky.
    I disliked the Murray pick, but I was also at the game, the "Cavs giving him shots" is totally false. He finished contested shots in the paint and attacked the rim which is exactly what SA needs. He made a dumb decision to turn his back to the basket dribbling and got it stolen, but that wasn't as stupid as KL picked up dribble in a trap spot in the final seconds of the game.

    Danny Green is worthless, and Manu looks really old. Manu is my favorite Spur of all time, but some times it gets really ugly when he doesn't attack. I'm ready to see a healthy dose of Bertans and Murray.


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    I liked that he was aggressive on D versus Irving but wasn't fouling. That was huge. This was a game where he made shots he probably won't be able to make consistently against NBA defenses (whereas in the DEN game, he can have those shots provided his three-point stroke is real). But you can never overrate a rookie who is able to have a great game under the brightest lights.

    I don't think the Spurs should rush Parker back. Tony should get periodic rest periods anyway, as should Manu. Parker tends to have a good spurt after resting, so just keep doing that and see how much of DeJounte's game is consistently transferable. If he's really this guy at the ASB, you have to consider how to get him in the rotation full-time.
    This....all of this!

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    He has an advanced transition game which should get him a few points against anyone. He can break down the defense and get to the basket selectively, Lee would feast off his misses. He'd give Curry fits trying to guard him.

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    Yes, Murray is ready. I did not think he would be ready when he was drafted, but clearly he is ready.

    He played and scored against the world champions, in a game with high intensity. He was composed and picked his opportunities. The guy has a natural talent for the game and his length is valuable at the point.

    Anyone who thinks he isn't ready is a complete moron.

    How about Kyle Anderson? No, he's not ready until he fixes his 3 point shot.

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    You guys act like he hasn't already been playing against NBA talents... In the Summers with Crawford, an other NBA guys... No he's not a starter, but we see he's not scared. Everyone make mistakes.
    Who do you think he was playing against in the last game? Those are the world champs, not some bottom dwelling team.

    Those are the champs that locked up the Warriors last season. Their defense is no slouch.

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    I liked that he was aggressive on D versus Irving but wasn't fouling. That was huge. This was a game where he made shots he probably won't be able to make consistently against NBA defenses (whereas in the DEN game, he can have those shots provided his three-point stroke is real). But you can never overrate a rookie who is able to have a great game under the brightest lights.

    I don't think the Spurs should rush Parker back. Tony should get periodic rest periods anyway, as should Manu. Parker tends to have a good spurt after resting, so just keep doing that and see how much of DeJounte's game is consistently transferable. If he's really this guy at the ASB, you have to consider how to get him in the rotation full-time.
    +1

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    Think maybe they might trust him to start next season and live with the growing pains. Tbh they may not have a choice if patty gets a rich offer.

    Trying to remember, when did they turn over the keys to Tony? Was it in Year 2? Remember they tried AD but that did t work out.

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    Murray at the very least should replace Simmons in the rotation next year. I don't think the Spurs will pay Simmons. If Patty leaves too, that'll give Murray an even larger role especially if Ginobili retires. At that point, the Spurs have no choice but to give Murray big minutes. Forbes is still hanging around on the team and might be thrown into the fire too. I rather give those two + Bertans a chance than lock up sizeable money on an old vet.

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    Murray at the very least should replace Simmons in the rotation next year. I don't think the Spurs will pay Simmons. If Patty leaves too, that'll give Murray an even larger role especially if Ginobili retires. At that point, the Spurs have no choice but to give Murray big minutes. Forbes is still hanging around on the team and might be thrown into the fire too. I rather give those two + Bertans a chance than lock up sizeable money on an old vet.
    In this scenario (which I don't think is far fetched tbh) I think you treat next season like a rebuild. Then you can explore seeing what you can get for LMA.

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    I liked that he was aggressive on D versus Irving but wasn't fouling. That was huge. This was a game where he made shots he probably won't be able to make consistently against NBA defenses (whereas in the DEN game, he can have those shots provided his three-point stroke is real). But you can never overrate a rookie who is able to have a great game under the brightest lights.

    I don't think the Spurs should rush Parker back. Tony should get periodic rest periods anyway, as should Manu. Parker tends to have a good spurt after resting, so just keep doing that and see how much of DeJounte's game is consistently transferable. If he's really this guy at the ASB, you have to consider how to get him in the rotation full-time.

    Totally agree. He kicked ass in the D-League. He needs NBA minutes to improve. Parker needs to be fully healed, and not rush back. That seems like a way to get both things done.

    Even though Murray had been playing very good, he wasn't getting many AST's. Last night he dished 6, which is damned solid. If it had been against the Nets, it would have been one thing. But against the Cavs, that's a legit step up.

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    Potential looks great, but I'd be shocked if Pop plays him real playoff minutes,tbh..
    He may have to given Tony and Manu getting dinged a lot now. I like what I see. He is hard to deal with and I think will be better than the highly touted Russell and Mudiay from last years draft. Shoot, I like him better than the guy Denver drafted this year up high too.

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    Murray at the very least should replace Simmons in the rotation next year. I don't think the Spurs will pay Simmons. If Patty leaves too, that'll give Murray an even larger role especially if Ginobili retires. At that point, the Spurs have no choice but to give Murray big minutes. Forbes is still hanging around on the team and might be thrown into the fire too. I rather give those two + Bertans a chance than lock up sizeable money on an old vet.
    I think either Patty or Simmons stays just to keep experience in the system. You have to pay somebody. The Manu, Tony salaries are gone soon as well.

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