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  1. #76
    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    "better team" when nobody predicted them to be in the playoff picture

    :Oledipo and Adams were supposed to be better than anything on yalls roster. Freezing them out is of course gonna make them play worse
    This. The only reason that last game was close was because Kanter was wrecking our bench.

  2. #77
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    "better team" when nobody predicted them to be in the playoff picture
    FiveThirtyEight had both teams firmly in the playoff picture in preseason:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/

    CBS projected that OKC would win around 45 games and Houston would win 43:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/20...rriors-top-73/

    But who gives a about preseason predictions anymore in January? What matters is what's actually happening on the court every night, not what the experts assumed would happen on paper.

    The reality on the court is that after Westbrook and Steven Adams, OKC's roster is a dumpster fire. Draft bust Victor Oladipo and Andre Roberson - a terrible offensive player and even worse free throw shooter - are second and third in minutes per game on that roster respectively In fairness, Roberson is a great defender, but it's the same issue the Clippers have with Mbah a Moute. Defense alone just isn't enough to make up for basically playing 4-on-5 on the other end of the court.

    In contrast, Houston has a bunch of contributors like Eric Gordon, Ryan Anderson, Trevor Ariza and Patrick Beverley. These are all guys who have made names for themselves before this season, so it's not like Frauden is turning scrubs into stars this year.

    It's blindingly obvious from both stats and the eye test that Frauden has a better supporting cast than Westbrook, regardless of what people expected before the season.

  3. #78
    Veteran spursistan's Avatar
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    Barely lost to the Wizards without him..Yeah, let's stop acting like he is having Lebron/Russ/Harden-type of impact on teammates..Even without Middleton, the Bucks have talent and much better roster than Pelicans/Thunder etc..

  4. #79
    Believe. The Third Man's Avatar
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    Show us on the doll where James Harden hurt you, CN.

  5. #80
    Veteran spursistan's Avatar
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    way premature ejac by OP..

    20-23 in the East and out of playoffs

  6. #81
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    way premature ejac by OP..

    20-23 in the East and out of playoffs
    He's super overrated. I have no ide how he managed to get that voted in. Millsap is having his best season as Hawk.

  7. #82
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    He's super overrated. I have no ide how he managed to get that voted in. Millsap is having his best season as Hawk.
    BR just put the latest "superstar" rankings yesterday, giannis was 5, kawhi was 7 lol. and lebron was only 3 smh

  8. #83
    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
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    way premature ejac by OP..

    20-23 in the East and out of playoffs
    He hasn't been the same since he hit the game winner against the Knicks at MSG; Jabari Parker is now in the doghouse for speaking out about it.

  9. #84
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    Giannis dropping 31 and getting the win against Frauden

    Haters

  10. #85
    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    lol team struggling to stay above .500 and this clown is mvp candidate? lol

  11. #86
    wemby enjoyer 100%duncan's Avatar
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    Giannis dropping 31 and getting the win against Frauden

    Haters
    Are you gonna bump this every 1 game out of 5 tbh?

  12. #87
    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    lol team struggling to stay above .500 and this clown is mvp candidate? lol
    In the east too.

  13. #88
    Believe.
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    MVPs lead their teams to 50+ wins.

  14. #89
    Veteran spursistan's Avatar
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    Losing to an Embiidless' Sixers on a B2B at home ...Yeah, MVP material..

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    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
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    Losing to an Embiidless' Sixers on a B2B at home ...Yeah, MVP material..
    Got locked up by a minimum salary player

  16. #91
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    Got locked up by a minimum salary player
    Robert Covington, right ? This guy (Giannis) is only seeking a pretext for a move to the sunny west coast team IMHO, it must be much better treated as a king in LA than in the sub zero Milwaukee.

  17. #92
    wemby enjoyer 100%duncan's Avatar
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    inb4 cn bumps this after 5 games

  18. #93
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
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    Robert Covington, right ? This guy (Giannis) is only seeking a pretext for a move to the sunny west coast team IMHO, it must be much better treated as a king in LA than in the sub zero Milwaukee.
    The Greek Clipper Freak

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    The Greek Clipper Freak
    thinking isn't gonna give choke the max

  20. #95
    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    Giannis will never learn to shoot and his ceiling would be limited by it. Kirilenko looked like he was going to be something special at some point too.

  21. #96
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    Why do you think he will never learn to shoot? HE seems to have a good work ethic

    That's what people said about Lebron because they thought his athleticism is enough but Lebron improved his outside shooting

    And at people who thought AK47 was going to be a special player; that guy looked like a scrub from day 1

  22. #97
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    Why do you think he will never learn to shoot? HE seems to have a good work ethic

    That's what people said about Lebron because they thought his athleticism is enough but Lebron improved his outside shooting

    And at people who thought AK47 was going to be a special player; that guy looked like a scrub from day 1
    Because his shot looks awful, slow as and one shot is completely different from the other. Lebron's shot never looked so bad. Giannis is in his, what, 3rd or 4th season and he has shown marginal to no improvement on his shot, He might improve it a bit, but he will never develop it to the point he needs to develop it for a superstar playmaker.

  23. #98
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Because his shot looks awful, slow as and one shot is completely different from the other. Lebron's shot never looked so bad. Giannis is in his, what, 3rd or 4th season and he has shown marginal to no improvement on his shot, He might improve it a bit, but he will never develop it to the point he needs to develop it for a superstar playmaker.
    didn't know he was in his 3rd or 4th season tbh

  24. #99
    EAT IT!!! Kawhitstorm's Avatar
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    Giannis will never learn to shoot and his ceiling would be limited by it. Kirilenko looked like he was going to be something special at some point too.
    AK47 was a soft beta like Batum while Giannis is an ultra aggressive alpha like WestBrick.

    Giannis is already better than 22 yr old Garnett: http://bkref.com/tiny/KWA89
    Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 01-27-2017 at 12:53 AM.

  25. #100
    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    AK47 was a soft beta like Batum while Giannis is an ultra aggressive alpha like WestBrick.

    Giannis is already better than 22 yr old Garnett: http://bkref.com/tiny/KWA89
    No, he isn't.

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