Trade Deadline Watch

[Chinook]

I'm not going to say the Spurs won't make a move, because they tend to do something every other year or so. But I don't think they're less confident in their post-season prospects after losing to NO and DAL considering they beat two playoff teams before that.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm not going to say the Spurs won't make a move, because they tend to do something every other year or so. But I don't think they're less confident in their post-season prospects after losing to NO and DAL considering they beat two playoff teams before that.

Here's the thing.

Spurs usually always assess their options at the deadline, they make and take calls all the time. If a deal does not happen, or if they don't make any moves, it won't be because all of their players are off limits. It takes two teams to really like a deal for a deal to happen -- not just the Spurs' side.

People and fans are so results oriented by thinking Spurs didn't even try to improve in the offseason or at the deadline because they didn't make any moves. That's not the case. None of us know the phone calls they take and make. They may have intentions on signing or trading for a specific player but it doesn't actually transpire very often because at the end of the day it takes BOTH teams to agree.

Don't get confused by thinking the results = their intentions.

[Chinook]

Here's the thing.

Spurs usually always assess their options at the deadline, they make and take calls all the time. If a deal does not happen, or if they don't make any moves, it won't be because all of their players are off limits. It takes two teams to really like a deal for a deal to happen -- not just the Spurs' side.

People and fans are so results oriented by thinking Spurs didn't even try to improve in the offseason or at the deadline because they didn't make any moves. That's not the case. None of us know the phone calls they take and make. They may have intentions on signing or trading for a specific player but it doesn't actually transpire very often because at the end of the day it takes BOTH teams to agree.

Don't get confused by thinking the results = their intentions.

While I agree with you as a general point, I would also think that PATFO are legitimately adverse to making moves. No trades isn't a sign the Spurs couldn't get another team to bite as much as it's a sign the two couldn't agree on a market.

I don't think the Spurs want to make a trade. That might not be the case, but I'm going to keep assuming that because I find no reason why they would this season.

[MaNu4Tres]

While I agree with you as a general point, I would also think that PATFO are legitimately adverse to making moves. No trades isn't a sign the Spurs couldn't get another team to bite as much as it's a sign the two couldn't agree on a market.

I don't think the Spurs want to make a trade. That might not be the case, but I'm going to keep assuming that because I find no reason why they would this season.

I don't think they are adverse to making moves. I just think they are more calculated and disciplined. They are usually in a comfortable situation being in contention to where they may not have the sense of desperation like most teams do. If the right opportunity presents itself to improve the team they'll pull the trigger, but as I said, they are usually more calculated and disciplined.

I was just making a point in general how most fans are so results oriented. I don't think they NEED to make a move this year either, but I would explore shopping Mills.

[cd98]

Spurs have some assets to trade, esp after the changes to the CBA, which again makes cap space valuable. But the next draft will be deep and word is the draft in two years will be super deep. So even a late round 1st could mean a solid rotation player. No reason to trade those unless it's for a package that will put Spurs on GSW level.

[Chinook]

Spurs have some assets to trade, esp after the changes to the CBA, which again makes cap space valuable. But the next draft will be deep and word is the draft in two years will be super deep. So even a late round 1st could mean a solid rotation player. No reason to trade those unless it's for a package that will put Spurs on GSW level.

I actually think the CBA makes cap space less valuable, since the truly great players won't hit the market again until they are well past their primes.

[cd98]

I actually think the CBA makes cap space less valuable, since the truly great players won't hit the market again until they are well past their primes.

Doesn't it open up the amount you can pay your superstars? My understanding is that it's supposed to shift the money from the middle class players to the elite players, which means your big players will tie up salary.

[Chinook]

Doesn't it open up the amount you can pay your superstars? My understanding is that it's supposed to shift the money from the middle class players to the elite players, which means your big players will tie up salary.

Eh, it's hurt the middle-class a bit, but when the MLE expands, it will be normalized. The issue is that most guys worth waiting for probably won't be available, because they'd just be giving up too much money to do so.

[SAGirl]

Eh, it's hurt the middle-class a bit, but when the MLE expands, it will be normalized. The issue is that most guys worth waiting for probably won't be available, because they'd just be giving up too much money to do so.

mmm all of this is very, very interesting as the contracts issues and their effects on the market are things that I definitely do not know about...
thanks for sharing tidbits like this chinook.

[ECOV]

Cavs are interested in Carmelo Anthony as long as Kevin Love isn't involved in the deal (ESPN)

[spurtech09]

Cavs are interested in Carmelo Anthony as long as Kevin Love isn't involved in the deal (ESPN)

The illuminati will make it happen.....

[jermaine]

Thompson is a gonner for standing up to Labrick!!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs don't have the contracts to make big deals, they're either too small or those of core players. No big expiring either ( Manu doesn't count ).

They have 5 or 6 untouchable, or damn near untouchable players - Kawhi, Aldridge, Parker, Gasol, Manu and even Murray. Dedmon and Lee are on 1+1 deals and going to opt out, so they have little value. Anderson, Simmons, Forbes and Bertans also don't have much value and their contracts are tiny too. That leaves Patty and Green, but they're both top 7 rotation players, so it'd be a big risk to move them.

As for the picks, the new CBA makes picks more valuable, so a team drafting and developing well wouldn't be wise to throw 1st round picks away for marginal improvement.

[BillMc]

Melo for Kawhi. Do it RC!

[$pursDynasty]

I am wondering if the Spurs can somehow land Lou Williams from the Lakers. He could carry the offensive load in the 2nd unit being their go to guy. Allowing Manu to rest up and ride pine on his off nights. Why would the Lakers do it since he is their top scorer? He isn't in their future plans and they really need to lose to keep their first round draft pick. Went to the ESPN trade machine and a deal that worked was Patty and Fathead for Lou. I would do that deal. Murray would have to be the PG of the 2nd unit, but Lou would give us more consistent scoring that the microwave. We would lose out of Mr. Anderson's defense that is quite good though.

first unit KingSlayer, LMAlpha, MVParker, Verde, Pau
second unit Dijon, the Juice, Sweet Lou, DLee, Deadman
with Davis, Gino and Forbes rounding the team out. I like that. Everyone on the 2nd unit more than capable of spelling the person a person in the first unit. Plus having players a experienced as Manu, and with the upside of Davis on your 'third' string would make us deeper than anyone.

[Ice009]

Yeah, I'd be pretty happy to get Lou. Is he on an expiring contract? What kind of contract is he on?

[apalisoc_9]

Lou Williams is like the best bench player in the league.

Lakers won't give him up for Mills and Fathead specially since he's on a cheap contract.

But Lou would be a fantastic addition. He's matured too..Doesn't make as much terrible mistakes as his Atlanta days.

[TXstbobcat]

Yeah, I'd be pretty happy to get Lou. Is he on an expiring contract? What kind of contract is he on?

Lou William's contract expires after the '17-'18 season. He gets 7 million this year and 7 million next year. After Next season he will be an unrestricted free agent.

[$pursDynasty]

Lou Williams is like the best bench player in the league.

Lakers won't give him up for Mills and Fathead specially since he's on a cheap contract.

But Lou would be a fantastic addition. He's matured too..Doesn't make as much terrible mistakes as his Atlanta days.

logically they wouldn't but they lose their 1st round pick if it isn't top 3, so they need to go in tank mode, that is a lot easier with Lou off the team. This only makes sense if the Lakers are following the "process", but the contract isn't bad and it would really improve the Spurs. Now could the Lakers score a better deal than the refrigerator and the microwave, possibly.

[cd98]

Wilson Chandler wants out of Denver. Prob too much money to trade for but he'd be a nice get. He's a good enough wing to back up Kawhi or play with him and have an athletic small ball team that could possibly compete with Warriors.

[Emperor]

Wilson Chandler wants out of Denver. Prob too much money to trade for but he'd be a nice get. He's a good enough wing to back up Kawhi or play with him and have an athletic small ball team that could possibly compete with Warriors.

As long as David Lee forgives him for giving him an infection awhile back.

[TheGreatYacht]

Milwaukee just got rid of Miles Plumlee and his 12.5M/yr 4-year contract.

If RC wanted to trade TP, it would've happened already. Fortunately he's right in keeping him

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't some posters here want Miles Plumlee to play a serious role for the Spurs, IIRC?

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't some posters here want Miles Plumlee to play a serious role for the Spurs, IIRC?

Also wanted Cole Aldrich

[apalisoc_9]

Also wanted Cole Aldrich

Hmm..Can you guess their skin colour?