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    The whole Spurs starting lineup has a positive RPM except porker. How the does that happen? tbh..?

    Like the Spurs are so good and win on average and porker has a negative RPM still.

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    Yeah, its such a shame that a guy making 1/5th of what Enrique makes can't consistently bail him out. Let's put that guy down instead of focusing on how worthless and overpaid the starting PG is.
    Money is irrelevant. It's about on court play. And Mills will be making money soon enough.

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    It's pointless to argue most what you said when at the end of the day everyone realizes TP is the best PG on this team still and that is a bad thing.
    Who gives a if Paddy is more SG than PG. That doesn't automatically make Enrique a better option. Joel Anthony is more of a traditional big man than Bertans too but I'd much rather have Davis out there.

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    Money is irrelevant. It's about on court play. And Mills will be making money soon enough.
    On court play shows that Mills is an above average PG backup while Parker is the worst starting PG in the league.

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    Who gives a if Paddy is more SG than PG. That doesn't automatically make Enrique a better option. Joel Anthony is more of a traditional big man than Bertans too but I'd much rather have Davis out there.
    It does matter that TP is easily the best PG when it comes to solutions. Patty is getting his chance and he's failing miserably at being PG. So now there are no solution. Couple that with the fact Patty said he wants a shot at being a starting PG and he's due a big pay day? Yah, it's an issue.

    It does not make TP automatically better but the fact is that is the truth. It's not because Patty is more of a SG - it's because Patty lacks PG skills to be a competent starter at PG.

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    On court play shows that Mills is an above average PG backup while Parker is the worst starting PG in the league.
    That is true. It's also true that money aside (because you don't win les based on contract sizes but actual on court performance) that TP is better than Mills at PG and that is the issue.

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    I'd love to see Murray start an Parker comes off the bench... But with everyone wanting Mills gone but bring back George Hill, Murray would definitely still be the 3rd man out! Summer league will really help Murray alot.

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    On court play shows that Mills is an above average PG backup while Parker is the worst starting PG in the league.
    Exactly. In general, despite the fact that most of us think hes capable of more, Paddy has done his job (back-up PG) well enough. It's hilarious that Porkerstans are trying to on him because he isnt also doing Porker's job.

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    [QUOTE=FkLA;8924325]Exactly. In general, despite the fact that most of us think hes capable of more, Paddy has done his job (back-up PG) well enough. It's hilarious that Porkerstans are trying to on him because he isnt also doing Porker's job.[/QUOTE]



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    People are ting on Mills because people here think he's a better starting PG than TP and he's not. As bad as TP is, Mills is worse. Thats what you don't get and that is what you fail to realize when analyzing the current situation.

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    People are ting on Mills because people here think he's a better starting PG than TP and he's not. As bad as TP is, Mills is worse. Thats what you don't get and that is what you fail to realize when analyzing the current situation.
    Almost like he closes out games better.

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    As bad as TP is...
    Thank you.

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    It does matter that TP is easily the best PG when it comes to solutions. Patty is getting his chance and he's failing miserably at being PG. So now there are no solution. Couple that with the fact Patty said he wants a shot at being a starting PG and he's due a big pay day? Yah, it's an issue.

    It does not make TP automatically better but the fact is that is the truth. It's not because Patty is more of a SG - it's because Patty lacks PG skills to be a competent starter at PG.
    Where was that truth these past two games when Pop went with Paddy in the 4th and OT? If Enrique truly was the clear cut better option like you're trying to make it sound that wouldn't be happening during such a crucial stretch of the season.

    It's happened regularly throughout the season too.

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    if tony's so important then why is the spurs winning % ten points higher when tony doesn't play?

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    if tony's so important than why is the spurs winning % ten points higher when tony doesn't play?
    He is getting Paid 17 mil for what a rookie can do.

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    We've already seen Mills numbers with the same starters as TP and they are worse than TP's.

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    TP might be the best PG on the team (pretty debatable, tbh) but Patty is way more effective on his role, than Tony is in his. Patty's production, for the money he's making and the role he has, is more than acceptable. Tony's production, for his contract and role, is team hindering, tbh.
    I don't see how it's debatable when Tony's only compe ion is Ginobili and Murray. While I agree that Parker's contract is hindering, it's not his fault, it's the PATFO's fault for giving him that extension. I'm not sure why people are blaming Parker for being old. Maybe if he came off the bench for his entire career, he'd have a lot more to give.

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    Spurs are 7-1 when Manure doesn't play, tbh. Hope that $14,000,000 cancer tears an achilles

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    I don't see how it's debatable when Tony's only compe ion is Ginobili and Murray. While I agree that Parker's contract is hindering, it's not his fault, it's the PATFO's fault for giving him that extension. I'm not sure why people are blaming Parker for being old. Maybe if he came off the bench for his entire career, he'd have a lot more to give.


    True. Not everyone can face backup scrubs like Manure has had the privilege of doing

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    Almost like he closes out games better.
    Yeah, he sure does. 1-9 FG, 1-6- 3-Pt FG, 0 assists, 5 personal fouls in 32 minutes.

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    Yeah, he sure does. 1-9 FG, 1-6- 3-Pt FG, 0 assists, 5 personal fouls in 32 minutes.
    And Pop still thought he was the better player.

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    Yeah, he sure does. 1-9 FG, 1-6- 3-Pt FG, 0 assists, 5 personal fouls in 32 minutes.



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    http://stats.nba.com/lineups/traditi...EVIATION&dir=1

    With both starting lineups we've seen: Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Pau & Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Dedmon

    With TP: +2.7 & +2.4
    With PM: +1.2 & n/a

    In 3-man units with the two best players (kawhi/lma) so likely most important minutes vs other teams best players:

    With TP: +3.6
    With PM: +2.3

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    http://stats.nba.com/lineups/traditi...EVIATION&dir=1

    With both starting lineups we've seen: Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Pau & Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Dedmon

    With TP: +2.7 & +2.4
    With PM: +1.2 & n/a

    In 3-man units with the two best players (kawhi/lma) so likely most important minutes vs other teams best players:

    With TP: +3.6
    With PM: +2.3

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    Exactly. In general, despite the fact that most of us think hes capable of more, Paddy has done his job (back-up PG) well enough. It's hilarious that Porkerstans are trying to on him because he isnt also doing Porker's job.
    Biggest backpedal in Spurstalk history from "Mills is the future of the Spurs at the PG position."

    Pretending like you never uttered that kind of stupidity.

    Hedging harder than a pick and roll.

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