So, as of today, the only proven collusion was MSM and DNC to hurt Bernie. Only evidence of a crime is leaked classified info by, presumably, former Obama officials.
they have transcripts of the Russians talking about Page
1??? 1 and 3/4s????
So many posts but yet nothing is happening
1??? 1 and 3/4s????
So many posts but yet nothing is happening
Team Trump canceled meeting with 'conservatives' favorite Russian'—amob-tied, NRA-loving Putin ally
The White House abruptly canceled a scheduled meeting in February between President Trump and a high-level Russian central banker after a national security aide discovered the official had been named by Spanish police as a suspected “godfather” of an organized crime and money-laundering ring, according to an administration official and four other sources familiar with the event.The Russian banker in question is Putin ally Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Bank of Russia, and the meeting was supposed to be at the site of the National Prayer Breakfast last February.
But then some unspecified "national security aide" noticed Torshin's name on a list and a "former campaign adviser" mentioned that maybe an administration currently awash in Russia-related scandal should not meet with a Putin-allied organized crime figure and
you just know Trump was all "What? Half of my golden New York tower is full of Putin-allied organized crime figures, you can't throw a well-cooked steak in that place without hitting one" but, in any event, the meeting was nixed.
Anyhoo, Spain has been trying to arrest Torshin since 2013 for his connections to Russian organized crime in that country.
Meanwhile, in this country, he's a big cheese in the Russia-conservative cracker factory:
[Torshin] is a key figure in the Kremlin’s outreach to the conservative movement in the United States. In addition to his appearance at the Prayer Breakfast — an event he has been attending for the past several years —
Torshin is also a “life member” of the National Rifle Association —
—where during last year’s convention he got to meet Donald Trump Jr., because apparently everybody has been itching to meet Donald Trump Jr.—
“He’s sort of the conservatives’ favorite Russian,” said Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., who together with Rep. Tom Massie, R-Ky., had dinner with Torshin and other members of the Russian delegation [...]
Outstanding! Wonderful! Of course! It just so happens that
"conservatives' favorite Russian" is a man wanted elsewhere for his ties to organized crime. Pure coincidence. Nothing to see here.
The man's a National Rifle Association member, after all, he's got to be a great guy.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29
De-Derping the 'Un-Masking' Story
My read on Eli Lake's story about Susan Rice 'unmasking' Trump transition officials is that it's a rather elaborate attempt to make a scandal out of something that isn't scandalous at all.
Read this paragraph, the third graf down in the story.
The National Security Council's senior director for intelligence, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, was conducting the review, according to two U.S. officials who spoke with Bloomberg View on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.What jumps out to me here is the last sentence. Cohen-Watnick, whose new boss, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster, was trying to fire him while all this was happening, took his 'research' to the White House Counsel's Office. They reviewed what he had come up with, did some additional research on Rice's requests and then "instructed him to end his own research."
In February Cohen-Watnick discovered Rice's multiple requests to unmask U.S. persons in intelligence reports that related to Trump transition activities.
He brought this to the attention of the White House General Counsel's office, who reviewed more of Rice's requests and instructed him to end his own research into the unmasking policy.
This is all very cryptic and it's sort of a throwaway line in Lake's story. It's so spare you could read a number of possibilities into the sentence. Maybe the Counsel's office said, 'Wow, this is so big we need to take over this critical investigation you've started. Thank you so much for your work.' But that does not seem like the most likely read.
I would suggest that a much more plausible read is that Cohen-Watnick brought his 'research' to the Counsel's office, they looked at and basically said, 'Knock it off.'
That would make sense on a few fronts.
As even Lake concedes, Rice's alleged actions - if the report is accurate - were almost certainly legal. Most national security experts say they were not only legal but entirely proper.
Moreover, the kind of snooping around that Cohen-Watnick was apparently doing could very plausibly be interpreted as an attempt to monitor or interfere with the on-going counter-intelligence probe of Trump associates' ties to Russia.
The White House Counsel's job is to protect and look after the legal interests of the President. A good lawyer would likely want to shut that kind of freelancing down right away, especially if what Cohen-Watnick had found didn't amount to anything that helped the President or the White House.
The paragraph above also says Cohen-Watnick was "conducting the review." But what review was that? It's not clear this 'review' was authorized by anyone and it's fairly implausible that he just stumbled on this stuff in the first place 'in the normal course of business', as he and the White House claim.
His review apparently began in February. So if it was authorized it was likely okayed by Mike Flynn - another red flag.
So did Cohen-Watnick get shut down by White House Counsel Donald McGahn?
The main reason this read makes sense to me is what happened subsequently.
Why did Cohen-Watnick and Michael Ellis, a junior lawyer who used to work for Chairman Nunes, call Nunes late in the evening and have him rush over to the White House to see the 'smoking gun' information that supposedly validated President Trump's 'Obama wiretapping' tweets?
Remember, this overnight cloak and dagger stunt was followed the next day by Nunes going and 'briefing' President Trump about the new information.
So the White House briefs Nunes in the middle of the night and then Nunes returns to the White House in the morning to brief Trump?
That never made sense.
But it makes perfect sense if Cohen-Watnick (Mike Flynn's protege, remember) got shut down by McGahn and then decided to backchannel his findings to Trump supporters on the Hill in order to do an end run around his bosses.
It also explains why Nunes had to see the do ents at the White House (likely at Ellis's or Cohen-Watnick's desk) rather than on Capitol Hill or at a relevant intelligence agency.
Showing him the material anywhere else would have required letting others know what they were doing. Of course, it also explains why Nunes would need to brief Trump: because Cohen-Watnick probably wasn't allowed to do so directly.
This is, I grant, informed speculation. But it explains pretty much all the facts and mysteries about the Nunes overnight caper, his continuing inability to explain it in any clear or consistent way and his eventual refusal to discuss it with anyone else on his Committee.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266387&page=80
Complicated stuff, VERY SWAMPY
Obama and Torshin attended multiple National Prayer Breakfasts together
"This is, I grant, informed speculation"
Cernovich, bull ting provocateur and conspiracy look-at-me nutcase.
Pretty much sums it up except you're leaving out the part where Trump is going to be impeached in 3, 2, 1...ok now 3, 2, 1....wait just give it a second....now 3, 2, 1....uh well soon then.So, as of today, the only proven collusion was MSM and DNC to hurt Bernie. Only evidence of a crime is leaked classified info by, presumably, former Obama officials.
If their ultimate dream becomes reality, we have president Pence.
Otherwise, the Dems and MSM take a huge credibility hit.
Lol, Don Lemon.
Translation: we are going to bury this
Last edited by DarrinS; 04-04-2017 at 08:35 AM.
CNN is quite disciplined when it comes to staying on narrative
I can youtube videos too.
Have you considered the coverup required to actually fake a moon mission would be far more difficult than actually, well, going to the moon?
Please dont invoke the scientific method when you can't even begin to absorb what is so painfully obvious.
This thread... did anyone hear the oven timer go off? We will be eating carbon black for dinner.
i really don't get why the left is suddenly so obsessed with the russians. have we regressed back to the days of the red menace? i mean, no other country has ed with the sovereignty of other countries elections or policies as the U.S. has since the end of the Cold War. and now, there is a deep concern that the ruskies colluded with president oompa loompa during the election. was trump surveilled by someone? it's possible. most presidents are surveilled. was there hacking? sure. the chinese hacked us. we hacked the russians. of course there is hacking. it's today's current modus operandi. but i think it's careless to perpetuate this russian narrative to the extent it is being played out. it's the deep state's wet dream as a matter of fact. i mean, did i miss something? when did the left suddenly embrace the intelligence community? this is all so much out of a joseph er novel it's almost surreal.
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