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Yawn.
Seen it. It's meaningless.
Yawn.
Seen it. It's meaningless.
i mean, it's not meant to be an all-inclusive proof of AGW. it's more so aimed at audiences who:
a) don't even acknowledge that there's been significant warming in the last century
b) or even if they acknowledge there's been some warming, think it's just business as usual as the climate has always changed. the chart shows that the recent warming is not consistent with previous, gradual long-term changes (there is no 500 year window in this timetable with a 1 degree change... and yet we've had more than a 1 degree shift in the last century)
the causes of that warming are a different discussion, though fairly obvious and well understood in the scientific community
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Carbon Dioxide Could Reach Levels Unseen in 50 Million Years
http://www.livescience.com/58539-car...gn=20170405-ls
Planet is ed and un able
Thanks, BigCarbon, and your scientists and politicians.
Great Barrier Reef at 'terminal stage': scientists despair at latest coral bleaching data
‘Last year was bad enough, this is a disaster,’
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/10/great-barrier-reef-terminal-stage-australia-scientists-despair-latest-coral-bleaching-data
but BigCorp, enabled/protected by Trash + Repugs, MUST have its BigCarbon profits.
Maybe you could apply your vast talents to explaining away 375,000,000,000 TONS of vanishing ice from the Greenland ice sheet each year, and how that isn't a problem.
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Good article summing things up, as well as some economic effects (shocker):
http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...thawing-arctic
Mar-a-Lago going under, along with 1/3 of FL
Maybe you could apply your vast talents to explaining away 375,000,000,000 TONS of vanishing ice every year from the Greenland ice sheet, and how that isn't a problem.
But the antarctic is gaining 80 billion
Maybe you could apply your vast talents to explaining away 375,000,000,000 TONS of vanishing ice every year from the Greenland ice sheet, and how that isn't a problem.
That cancels out the 375
Statements like that are why people laugh at idiots like you.
Both sides are laughable and ponderous with their stances. To deny that it is getting hotter than a is re ed beyond belief but putting a ing non-scientist pedophile idiot like Bill Nye behind your fear mongering and stupid "we're all gonna drown" apocalyptic-scenario propaganda is of course the next jump in ridiculous posturing.
It's ing hot. Nothing is going to change it. Big Oil gets its belly rubbed by the Dems and the Repubs, so it's more PR posturing from both sides than anyone actually every doing anything that isn't financially motivated. Someone will come in and say, "but they did this, this and this" and selectively ignore their party's actions or lack of, and it's one big cluster .
This is definitely a gangbang of ery from both sides and I ing HATE, HATE HATE hot weather and not wanting to step outside. Makes me want my move to Boise to come sooner.
Oh the irony.
Posted this bit before. It is an attempt to do some risk-analysis on the subject. The guy goes into a lot more detail in the later videos after getting tons of feedback that make the whole body of work better than this first, basic attempt.
I have said all along that there is no evidence that I have seen, despite asking and looking at what passes for it (DarrinS posted a flawed study once that was the best I have seen, and that says a lot) taking modest steps to mitigate CO2 emissions is all that harmful to the overall economy.
Shifting from fossil fuels to renewables offers jobs, if not more jobs (especially ones that can't be outsourced).
Given the huge potential downside, and some solid tangible benefits to an economy (especially the avoidance of the nasty pollution problems that accompany fossil fuel extraction), it seems to me to be a no brainer.
In short:
Yeah, the science is fairly well along, and shows a human cause to the changes in our climate. The only quibbling is about the scale.
Downside is pretty bad, and easily avoided by steps that offer potential for economic growth.
Part and parcel of how moneyed interests can drive "solutions" that benefit narrow interests while messing over the rest of us.
The good thing is that green energy interests and jobs are starting to flex their own muscles in that regard.
It is funny watching the people who think of themselves as "free market champions" and have used free market arguments to rail against "expensive" green energy, now have to see the concrete benefits of economies of scale, and how that reduces per unit costs, a very basic microecnomic concept, that I have been pointing out would happen with a modest investment for years.
"but, but, free markets" never really was a valid excuse but it is really really thin and getting thinner with each passing financial quarter, because those free markets are, quite literally in some cases, driving innovation, job creation, and economic output when it comes to renewables and other green energy.
That's almost as bad as claiming a science reporter is completely inaccurate because of a immaterial spelling mistake. That was risible.
It's gonna happen, there's no stopping it, thanks to idiots like you.
You really think 1/3rd of Florida will go too?
Do Your Own Research
--WC
LOL...
You are such a loser.
I asked a question of opinion. Not fact. How can I research the opinion of a like you?
Excellent discussion here. Someone who has been studying this for 35 years...
What I said was not opinion but fact
http://sealevel.climatecentral.org/
http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/florida.shtml
I don't think I have the expertise or knowledge to effectively provide any opinion.
I have seen it presented as a possibility in a time frame over 100+ or so years, if memory serves.
45 minutes of discussion?
Summary?
I will watch it if you watch 45 minutes of material I present.
Otherwise, I will take a pass unless you can summarize.
Maybe you could apply your vast talents to explaining what happens to ocean levels when you start adding teratons of melted ice to it. 3,750,000,000,000 TONS of vanishing ice from the Greenland ice sheet alone.
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Florida was under water much longer than above water. Nothing to do with humans. That's why it so unstable and full of sink holes.
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