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Murray can't bring the ball up the floor without turning it over. He might be good one day, but right now he's just a scrub name on the bench. No Parker injury and you might never hear from him again.
And Murray DOES have all star potential...He has elite length, he has quickness, handles, and he is above average athletic for the pg position...The physical tools are there...Look at the Greek freak...He had the physical tools...That plays a part in saying someone has potential...He has shown flashes of greatness in some games he has played this season, but he never had consistent minutes, because like we are seeing now with Dedmon, pop would just sit him numerous games after he had a great game
Murray can't bring the ball up the floor without turning it over. He might be good one day, but right now he's just a scrub name on the bench. No Parker injury and you might never hear from him again.
He's playing well, but he's not exactly replacing Parker by any means, sadly.
Series stats:
Parker: 15/4 on 50% shooting
Murray: 4/2 on 28% shooting
If only Parker could last a playoff series without getting injured.
Exactly, the guy pretty much wins FMVP when he does.
The problem has been that he can't play half way decent for a prolong period of time, hence a couple of people wanting to start a more reliable player.
Who even thinks he would be injured right now if he came off the bench? I'd prefer 15-18mins of MVParker over 30 mins of porker.
I like Murray. I think his length and athleticism give him an advantage over most PGs he'll match up against.
He's a rookie that hasn't seen the floor much and is facing the best defensive PG in the league. It's a tough situation to walk into.
I have no idea what his ceiling is, maybe George Hill? Let's not pretend he was a lottery pick, or place lottery expectations on him because he had some nice layups.
He's physically gifted, but his development will hinge mostly on his ability to work his ass off in the offseason and accept criticism. I don't know how anyone here could begin to speak to his worth ethic. He could be very well be a focused and diligent professional in the offseason, or he could be a lazy head.
This is a very realistic opinion.
It's not all going to get done in one summer.
lol'ing at you resorting to calling people gots and thinking having a black username on a dying message board means jack to anyone but you
still no valid defense for your made-up 20 PPG standard in order to start Murray
U are making stuff up now...When did he turn it over last game? Or during the season, when did he turn the ball over just bringing it up the court?
U are comparing a guy who has the greenlight to score whenever he wants and plays a LOT more minutes than Murray...You know better...Be smart about your arguments
That's great, but then why are we impressed with 4/2 on 28%? What NBA player couldn't put up those numbers? Especially when they're starting?! What did you guys expect from Murray as a starter, 2/1 on 15% shooting? Parker in his rookie playoff debut dropped 17/4 on 50% on the greatest PG defender of all time.
Parker could probably still put up 4/2 on 28% with his injury tbh.
Murray looks just as much a scorer at the rim as he is a passer.
What you're really saying is he needs to develop an outside shot. He also needs about 15 pounds of lean sinewy thick muscle
Parker was starting for the entire season!!!! And Payton was old! No comparison whatsoever!!! Smh!
You make it rookie tony Parker play against pat Beverly after not playing him basically the entire season and post season...Then play him for ten minutes...Afterwards compare that to a vet point guard with the greenlight to shoot that plays 25-30 minutes, then compare the stats...Ridiculous!
Since Murray has more potential than Parker I'm looking forward to him averaging 15.5 ppg on .464 shooting the way Parker did in year two.
Just as ridiculous as people screaming "This team is better with Murray"! Now arguing the flip side "he's a rookie PG! Give him a break!".
I have no problem giving Murray a break. He has some good tools to work with and has a good chance of being a steal. That said some people don't seem to realize Parker was a ridiculously high steal that probability-wise it's unlikely Murray will match.
I agree. I'm not knocking Murray at all. He deserves a break and proper expectations. I'm just laughing so much that people's hate of TP can cloud their judgement so, so badly. Especially with regards to this year. Especially for people that clearly don't watch the team play before they talk.
We're being set up for disappointment if we're placing Top 3 Spur of all time expectations on Murray, tbh. I do believe he can be the 2nd best spurs guard ever only behind HOTS though
You must not actually watch games. In game 3 he turned the ball over repeatedly. He was only given 2 turnovers, possibly because Houston didn't gain possession long enough before losing it out of bounds, but he was really challenged to handle the ball up top without losing it. In game 4, he dribbled the ball right into his defender and basically handed it to him. That's not something your PG needs to be doing. I can see someone like Danny Green doing it. Murray is raw, of course.
Murray has a thin frame and he's never going to be a bruiser. IMO if he can develop along the lines of Barnes, Christie, Cooper strength-wise it will be a big plus and a success in that department. That and a good stroke will give him a very good shot at being a very nice steal.
He managed to play the entire last round. Short memory?
Re: Murray, he was in a similar spot this year to where CoJo was his rookie season in terms of age coming into the league. Has more maturing and physical growth needed so he's not the skinniest player outside of Brandon Ingram, but not sure you could have expected someone at his position at his age in this system to do more in year 1.
Ya, I don't know what this guy is talking about but he clearly doesn't watch games. He didn't even know Murray got injured FOR WEEKS.
He's acting like people are saying Murray can't literally dribble the ball up the floor with no one around him. That is not what people have said. We've said his handle is very loose and against pressure, like Mills, his lack of true NBA starting level handle is exposed more.
Can it change? Of course. Will it change? Hopefully. Mills still struggles with it and he's been in the NBA a long, long, time.
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