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    If he takes mid level exception & play backup to Murray, why not?

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    I definitely wouldn't give him the max but if he takes a discount it wouldn't be bad.

    This guy thinks it's a great idea and wants the Spurs to empty the cupboard to make it happen:

    https://hoopshabit.com/2017/05/09/ky...antonio-spurs/

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    I'm down with going all in with Murray, but it has to be ALL-IN, make him the starter and give him plays right away to see what he's made of, ala Parker.

    If he pans out, then we know we don't need to go for a PG in 2018.

    I would like the same thing with Bertans.

    My ideal starting line-up for next year would be Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, Dedmon. But I don't know if all of those three guys (Murray, Bertans and Dedmon) would be able to be as good as I think they could be.

    Great way to start rebuilding process

    That SL is terrible tbh and I'm not trying to be mean...

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    No to Lowry. I'd take CoJo over him just because CoJo has heart.

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    George Hill and KL on the same team?
    Imagine we get George Hill and Paul George, and Kawhi Leonard. Bird would shoot himself in the head. Plus we'd have finally gotten Paul George back where he belongs.

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    And to all the people that want Murray to start next year I think that is a bit much..I'm game for Murray being in rotation next year and needs more minutes but it's a tough task and tbh not even wise to expect a third string PG to be a starter on a championship contender..

    But if y'all wanna rebuild that's a different story...

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    he's only 31. you acting like he can't play
    Not to mention it weakens the Warriors (though they probably can't afford to keep him unless he takes huge discount)

    A few years removed at this point but was the only useful player on that Nets team a few years ago. Hard to know how much his defense is amplified by being around a good defensive group / offense is hit because he's a low tier option on that team.

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    Dude is 31, will possibly have a max salary starting at 35M with annual raises. Can you imagine paying him 38M when he's 35??? Gross!

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    This guy's infatuation with scrubs lmfao, I'm starting to think Kiwistorm never left. They just throw at a wall to see what sticks, the ones that don't will be cleaned up and forgotten, the one that does..... BUMP
    thats the "david lee is a good defender" guy

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    I would look to trade with Celtics to inquire Smart or Rozier

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    I do prefer Ish Smith to Lowry at this point if he demands Max/Near Max money tbh.
    I would look to trade with Celtics to inquire Smart or Rozier
    I agree with these cheaper alternatives. I'd also take a look at Holiday and Teague. CP3 would be nice, though I'm not 100% on giving a max contract to an aging superstar.

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    Great way to start rebuilding process

    That SL is terrible tbh and I'm not trying to be mean...
    It might be now, but I'm pretty high on all those three players. If they can develop into the players I think they can be, that lineup has all the tools to be a killer one in todays NBA.

    -Explosive scoring PG that also has size for his postion - it's what everyone hopes Murray to become
    -Stretch 4 with size and anthleticism - Bertans if he fits in (this is the guy I'm most sure about because I've seen him do it in Europe)
    -And a defensive monster big, who doesn't demand the ball and has great size, mobility and athleticism. (Dedmon has already proved he can be a reliable starter this season).

    And we already know what we have in Kawhi and Green.

    If all those things pan out (definitely not a given but not so out of possibility, tbh) we are taliking about a SL that has everything: Size, speed, youth, defense, offense, you name it.

    I already know that as currently constructed we're never going to win a championship, I would rather roll with the youth movement.

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    It might be now, but I'm pretty high on all those three players. If they can develop into the players I think they can be, that lineup has all the tools to be a killer one in todays NBA.

    -Explosive scoring PG that also has size for his postion - it's what everyone hopes Murray to become
    -Stretch 4 with size and anthleticism - Bertans if he fits in (this is the guy I'm most sure about because I've seen him do it in Europe)
    -And a defensive monster big, who doesn't demand the ball and has great size, mobility and athleticism. (Dedmon has already proved he can be a reliable starter this season).

    And we already know what we have in Kawhi and Green.

    If all those things pan out (definitely not a given but not so out of possibility, tbh) we are taliking about a SL that has everything: Size, speed, youth, defense, offense, you name it.

    I already know that as currently constructed we're never going to win a championship, I would rather roll with the youth movement.

    I like all the players you listed..just not as the starting line up. 3 of the players you listed had probably a combined 50 DNPs and two are rookies..I just don't think you can contend with that..they are all good role players/prospects though especially Murray and Bertans.

    Getting young is always a good thing but...you can't "rebuild" with a top 5 player in the league..you have to do whatever it takes to contend in Kawhi prime who only has 2 years on contract

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    I like all the players you listed..just not as the starting line up. 3 of the players you listed had probably a combined 50 DNPs and two are rookies..I just don't think you can contend with that..they are all good role players/prospects though especially Murray and Bertans.

    Getting young is always a good thing but...you can't "rebuild" with a top 5 player in the league..you have to do whatever it takes to contend in Kawhi prime who only has 2 years on contract
    Do you seriously think that lineup would get less than 50 wins? You can still have guys like Tony, Pau, maybe even Manu come off the bench when needed. Spurs need to get younger, and change their style, in a hurry. Tony as the starting PG doesn't fly anymore, having Aldridge as your best paid player doesn't either, two traditional bigs lineups doesn't work anymore.

    I'm pretty sure Kawhi would rather see the development processes of Murray and Bertans speed up than roll another season as currently constructed. It's just too obvious that this team has reached it's celing, what's the point of starting another season with a team that you know will never win a championship as they are built right now?

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    Do you seriously think that lineup would get less than 50 wins? You can still have guys like Tony, Pau, maybe even Manu come off the bench when needed. Spurs need to get younger, and change their style, in a hurry. Tony as the starting PG doesn't fly anymore, having Aldridge as your best paid player doesn't either, two traditional bigs lineups doesn't work anymore.

    I'm pretty sure Kawhi would rather see the development processes of Murray and Bertans speed up than roll another season as currently constructed. It's just too obvious that this team has reached it's celing, what's the point of starting another season with a team that you know will never win a championship as they are built right now?

    It'd be interesting to see if they could...but 50 games? Doubt it.. And You see you've already lowered the expectations..Spurs have won 50 games for 18 straight years..Kawhi wants to play for CHAMPIONSHIPS...San Antonio won't be appealing if they can't compete. Kawhi needs another star or side kick...not 3 players in the starting line up who barely played the year before..that won't compete against LeBron or GSW..And like I said Kawhi has 2 years left on his deal and if the Spurs regress he'll go somewhere he can win rings..

    The time is NOW for the Spurs..keep Kawhi happy and take advantage of his prime

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    The only star PG I would consider this offseason would be Paul and it could only be a 2 or 3 year deal, not the max 4 he's en led to if he leaves. Paying someone close to $40million beyond age 35 would be insane. As much as he'd hate being called a playoff choker, leaving $10s of millions on the table would be ridiculous from his perspective.

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    George Hill plz

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    Roll with Murray, tbh. The Spurs will have a young player on a cheap contract to develop vs signing injury prone PGs that will eat up our team's cap space.

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    The bench next year is going to be complete . Go with Murray as starting PG and see if you can get Tyreke Evans for the bench.

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    I'm down with going all in with Murray, but it has to be ALL-IN, make him the starter and give him plays right away to see what he's made of, ala Parker.

    If he pans out, then we know we don't need to go for a PG in 2018.

    I would like the same thing with Bertans.

    My ideal starting line-up for next year would be Murray, Green, Kawhi, Bertans, Dedmon. But I don't know if all of those three guys (Murray, Bertans and Dedmon) would be able to be as good as I think they could be.
    Why do you think this team can't contend with TP? Even with an AWFUL TP the Spurs got the 2nd best record in the league and then we clearly saw that in the playoffs TP was different. I mean, I probably agree overall especially because the injury may very well be something that hampers him further, but even with a bad TP this team was still a contender.

    Were they favorites over GS? No, but other than that, you can argue SA is the 2nd or 3rd best team. That is a contender by definition.

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    The bench next year is going to be complete . Go with Murray as starting PG and see if you can get Tyreke Evans for the bench.
    Evans could get a Lee like deal for cheap for a contending team that is willing to let him play. If Manu retires, and I think that is likely, there is a gap there for him to play. The way Simmons is playing, I would bring him back as well. I would prefer a cheap PG like Smart that can play the 2. Because I am unsure Mills can be kept or is worth to play starting money where I don’t think he could run a team over a regular season. But then again, we desperately need shooting.

    The reason why I would like Smart is because of his defense and size, and he can play with Parker once and if he returns back from injury.



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    . I don't get some posters. Saying things like "roll with the youth movement" or "not a contender" when this exact/current roster HAD THE 2ND BEST RECORD IN THE NBA & is on the brink of a possible Western Conference Finals. You don't just blow that sh*t up and start over.

    What is wrong with some of you? You know that with a team like Curry/KD/Draymond/Klay you aren't probably going to be a favorite clear cut right? That does not mean you pack it in. Injuries happen (like KD this year, Curry before, etc..) and SA is really damn close.

    Same thing with the LMA HAS to be traded crew. He does not have to be anything. Spurs are damn good WITH him. If they can improve the team by trading him, by all means, please do. But there is nothing this team has to do other than tweak things and maximize their future as best as possible WHILE contending now like they have been.

    WTF people.

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    "livingston can't start" same thing you gots said about patty
    Mills has pretty much proven that he can't start (at least if you want to run an offense or be a playoff team). He had one good shooting game as a starter which is awesome that he stepped up. But it does not erase everything else we have seen.

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    "Have Tony as your starting PG doesn't fly anymore"

    Team has 2nd best record in the NBA & TP looks great vs MEM & HOU in the playoffs.

    "Having Aldridge as your best paid player"

    Money doesn't matter on the court. Having LMA as the best paid player has SA on the brink of a WCF even with a terrible injury to TP 2 games into the Semi-Final.

    Again, just think. Take your emotions out of it and look big picture and beyond your hate (which is impossible for 99% of ST).

    If SA can just get some slight improvement over TP and another competent 2-way wing, this team with everyone else is still in really good shape.

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