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    Collusion is irrelevant. The evidence suggests that he's interfering with a criminal investigation. That is an independent crime/act/wrong.
    Yep, this is something entirely different that doesn't have anything to do with Russia. Trump dead ass tried to obstruct justice by telling him to let it go.

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    You really should not let him dumb down into MSM. Conflating MSNBC, The Economist, WSJ, WaPo, Politico, ABC, Vox, Reuters, The New Republic, etc really only tells you that the person in question gets their takes from Drudge, Fox News, Breitbart, and the like.

    The outlets they listen to know they are monolithic so they try to paint the compe ion the same. It is the exact same rationale that they are using to try and paint liberals as racists like chucho and his socks have been working on overtime for the last few months and the like. Try to beat the compe ion to the punch and control the narrative. It's Orwellian crap you would expect from Russian media yet it is here.

    There seems to be two people that do the lion's share of the stupidity across multiple accounts. I really hope they are being paid for their efforts. If a person who advocates for social justice is to be ridiculed --another bait and switch narrative grabber-- then how should someone who advocates for injustice and hate be viewed?
    but... aren't you literally conflating drudge, fox news, breitbart, etc the same way you are accusing him of doing to other outlets?

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    guys, white house denied that trump asked the flynn investigation to stop. therefore its fake news

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    guys, white house denied that trump asked the flynn investigation to stop. therefore its fake news
    Alternative fact. I'm thinking Trump is gonna want an Alternative life in a bit.

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    Collusion is irrelevant. The evidence suggests that he's interfering with a criminal investigation. That is an independent crime/act/wrong.
    You're a lawyer and you call this evidence?

    "WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

    “I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

    The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia. what existence? oh we'll confirm later we actually don't have evidence of existence

    Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created do enting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

    Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter."




    NYT hasn't seen the memo, had the memo read to them by an "associate", and hasn't had Comey confirm their existence.
    evidence

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    but... aren't you literally conflating drudge, fox news, breitbart, etc the same way you are accusing him of doing to other outlets?
    He's always tried to pin those sites on me to no avail. I don't think I've ever even linked an article from Drudge or Breitbart, maybe a handful from Fox.

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    You're a lawyer and you call this evidence?

    "WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

    “I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

    The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia. what existence? oh we'll confirm later we actually don't have evidence of existence

    Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created do enting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

    Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter."

    NYT hasn't seen the memo, had the memo read to them by an "associate", and hasn't had Comey confirm their existence.
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    That's why I said "suggests" instead of "proves."

    Those allegations are pretty specific (i.e., length of the do ent, what specifically was said, when the memo was created, etc...). Which makes me believe that this memo or these memos actually exist. And the article you posted doesn't say about Comey not confirming the do ents existence.

    We'll wait to see what comes out. In the meantime, I want you to remember back to 24 hours ago when you were crying about "fake news" about the Donald disclosing classified information to the Russians. How'd that work out for you?

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    Welp, obviously Trump is having a good hour/day/week/fortnight/month/presidency

    lol

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    That's why I said "suggests" instead of "proves."

    Those allegations are pretty specific (i.e., length of the do ent, what specifically was said, when the memo was created, etc...). And the article you posted doesn't say about Comey not confirming the do ents existence.

    We'll wait to see what comes out. In the meantime, I want you to remember back to 24 hours ago when you were crying about "fake news" about the Donald disclosing classified information to the Russians. How'd that work out for you?
    What code level classified information did Trump reveal again?

    My sides hurt from laughing at all the bull here and I hope Comey stops dragging his feet and testifies soon. I truly believe those thinking Trump will go down are going to be unpleasantly shocked when the testimony turns to the actions of the previous administration.

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    What code level classified information did Trump reveal again?

    My sides hurt from laughing at all the bull here and I hope Comey stops dragging his feet and testifies soon. I truly believe those thinking Trump will go down are going to be unpleasantly shocked when the testimony turns to the actions of the previous administration.
    so you never answered my question if you're walking back your claim that classified evidence was not revealed. have you now shifted your position to "ok there was classified info discussed but what level?"

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    I truly believe those thinking Trump will go down are going to be unpleasantly shocked when the testimony turns to the actions of the previous administration.
    Yeah but you also believed Trump fired Comey for being unfair to Clinton.

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    What code level classified information did Trump reveal again?
    In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day,” the president said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.

    Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying cir stances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.

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    lmao this TSA meltdown is priceless

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    What code level classified information did Trump reveal again?

    My sides hurt from laughing at all the bull here and I hope Comey stops dragging his feet and testifies soon. I truly believe those thinking Trump will go down are going to be unpleasantly shocked when the testimony turns to the actions of the previous administration.
    So do you think the Comey memo exists or is more Fake News!?

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    Yeah but you also believed Trump fired Comey for being unfair to Clinton.
    Fake news. I never said that.

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    Trash asked Comey to drop the Flynn case

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    clinton murdered her staffer?... legit!
    trump blabbed?... fake news!

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    Fake news. I never said that.
    You at least believed Trump didn't fire Comey over the Russia investigation.

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    so you never answered my question if you're walking back your claim that classified evidence was not revealed. have you now shifted your position to "ok there was classified info discussed but what level?"
    WaPo said highly classified code word level from the start. Did they revise their story?

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    i say make rosie o'donell the special prosecutor.

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    So Wapo actually did have a source and wasn't spreading fake news from the CIA?

    Who would've thought?

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    You at least believed Trump didn't fire Comey over the Russia investigation.
    More fake news. I said if Trump was trying to squash the investigation by firing Comey it was the stupidest move as the investigation would of course continue without Comey and there'd be an even bigger spotlight on it.

    Got any more TSA fake news?

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    So do you think the Comey memo exists or is more Fake News!?
    I'm 50/50 on the Comey memos and 50/50 on Trump having tapes of Comey. I think they are both posturing for leverage heading to court.

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    More fake news. I said if Trump was trying to squash the investigation by firing Comey it was the stupidest move as the investigation would of course continue without Comey and there'd be an even bigger spotlight on it.

    Got any more TSA fake news?
    You're so full of . You told me he was fired for the same reason I wanted him fired (which I didn't). I wanted him fired for not dropping the Russia investigation?

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    This is why you don't with the intelligence agencies. You knew Comey's buddies weren't going to sit by and let their boy go out like that. If this all goes down and Comey does testify...


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