Product of Manu. We knew that to be true, but I guess some hoped (Pop included apparently) he could be more.
He's overrated and a bit of a chucker. Plays well off the ball and other ppl but if you need him to be the man, look elsewhere.
GHill would make sense, the Spurs only let him go because they were getting Leonard and Pop saw something there. I remember he said he was heartbroken over letting Hill go. He isn't top PG but he can actually play point. With Parker gone and on the decline the Spurs need some dependability there.
Conley had a very fine series against the Spurs, he was probably the best Grizz. Look, again, no hate on TP, his role needs to be reduced, and there's nothing wrong with that. He also can't compete with the CP3, Westbrooks, Irvings, etc.
Good honest take.
I think he's stating the obvious about TP. He is hurt and no one knows whether he would even start next season. He also has a lot of mileage on his legs and the Spurs can't rely on him to score 30 points anymore on a consistent basis. So who does then?
he's not trash, he's just not a starting caliber player... but has been asked to step in as a starter due to injury, where he has been exposed
You cannot really build to beat a stacked team. I don't see how it's possible. You can hope they run into a financial wall as guys demand more when success piles up, but you cannot just go out and buy more best in class guys. They don't exist.
Yeah, it's time to dial it back. Unfortunately, the Spurs will need to compete against the elite, and Murray probably still needs a season or two, so what to do? The Spurs need better defense and more consistent scoring from that spot.
I don't think that is what he was saying (in context of what we have been discussing about level of play this playoffs). But sure. Despite terrible TP in the regular season, SA was a top 2 team.
I never said Tony was bad this playoffs. The opposite, actually. I do think at this point asking him to compete night in and night out against the elite is unrealistic (like asking Manu to drop 20 ppg every night).
Again, that has nothing to do with Tony, and everything to do with father time. I don't think Tony is going anywhere, so the Spurs will probably have to reconsider his role.
We all want TP back next season. But like Manu, he can't keep the scoring for the team anymore on a consistent basis. It's a natural thing to occur. I think both TP and Manu still have important roles to play with the Spurs in a very controlled fashion. There's still plenty they can do without getting in the way of other players, whether trades, FAs or upcoming.
Now ya. But even with him starting this year SA had a top 2 record is what I'm saying.
It's bittersweet though, because while the team might've overachieved, Kawhi really had to carry a lot of the burden, and we're spoiled brats that are not happy unless we get a LOBT.
This playoffs also seem to confirm that LMA is not going to be a good #2.... we're just going to have to get better in other places.
Gonna disagree with you here. He's a fine 2 guard but not a creator at the PG position. Average to below average defender due to his size.
I mean, I somewhat agree, but with Kawhi carrying the load SA seemed to have a legit shot vs GS so LM may be good "enough" to beat GS. Who knows.
The league is full of those though (defensive liabilities running PG, chuckers). Some of them (like Westbrook) hide it somewhat with his athletic ability, which is obviously off the chart, and puts him in the elite, where Patty could never hope to be.
But even TP was criticized in the past for being more of a scorer than a play maker. Pop likes scorers more than traditional PGs anyways, so it's no surprise he likes Patty.
We just can't go into next year with Tony hurt and Murray and Mills as backups. We need to get a starting PG who has good handles can take it to the rack and is able to dish to his team.
This is the first thing they will need to fix regardless of any other considerations or whatever people want
Don't want Mills back and want Parker stretched
You lost me at "he's a fine pg." He is NOT and never was a pg. He is a SG in a pg's body and that's all he'll ever be.
Forget about it. He just doesn't get it.
But do we really need that? Imho, we just need a guy who can CONSISTENTLY compliment Kawhi. LMA isn't that guy.
I will take winning 50-54 games/4th-5th seed next season with Murray thrown in the fire (+ minimum vet backup) running the point over getting stuck with Patty for the next few years..
If they dump Gasol, stretch Parker, dump Anderson, renounce Mills and Dedmon, and if Lee opts in ...
They can get over $30 million in space and still match on Simmons.
Better any point guard out there, Hill, Holiday, Paul or Lower, and roll with the player when Murray as back up with a minimum like Beno as 3rd string than coming back with crap Mills who is shooting terribly AGAIN in the playoffs and having to deal with a hobbled Parker who might not be back until January ...
Mills and Parker = death sentence
Can't wait for summer 2018 to get Kawhi help, that free agent class is trash.
It's now or never.
He's the ultimate 6th man and team player. You guys are asking for a lot without MVParker running the show
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