$53 million in dead weight for 2017-18

[SpurOutofTownFan]

GUYS GUYS - again, if LMA is not the option next year the SPurs need to get another big time player via trade who can complement Kawhi. That's it. Otherwise they cannot compete for NBA finals spot against these teams that are stacked.

[BillMc]

Just embrace the fact that LMA is a role player at this point. Get him shots off the pick and roll, let him shoot open threes, let him crash the offensive boards. He can still be a productive, efficient player that way. No more post-ups. Couple that with his improved defense and there's no reason why he should be considered dead weight.

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[SASdynasty!]

Well, we made it to the WCF largely thanks to Manu and with TP out... same in 2014, winning the chip... that's results...

And again, not hating on Tony, he was great against the Grizz... but let's not pretend that it didn't look like an anomaly, considering the season he had.

In all honesty, he should be a super-sub like Manu at this point, that his role. The Spurs need a starting PG to compete against the elite (Curry, CP3, Westbrook, Irving, etc), tbh...

Lol 2014:

Parker: 17/5 on 49%
Manu: 14/4 on 44%

Lol, "thanks to Manu"

[SASdynasty!]

BTW, Tony isn't going anywhere... that's sunk money. Hopefully he recovers well...

Remind me again where the sunk money is...

2017 Playoffs:

Parker: 16/3 on 53%
Mills: 10/2 on 44%
Murray: 5/2 on 35%

[SASdynasty!]

Just embrace the fact that LMA is a role player at this point. Get him shots off the pick and roll, let him shoot open threes, let him crash the offensive boards. He can still be a productive, efficient player that way. No more post-ups. Couple that with his improved defense and there's no reason why he should be considered dead weight.

Role players don't drop 34/12 in your most important game of the season.

[TheGreatYacht]

TP Playoff PER this year: 20.3

Manu Playoff PER this year: 10.8

Don't waste your time arguing with ElNonoMexican....

Everyone who watches these games knows this game was an anomaly (since he first brought it up). Manure can catch fire 1 game and literally go scoreless for a series. No need to continue being old.

[TheGreatYacht]

I can't believe Salvadorians are trying to credit Manure as the reason we made it to the WCF

That block wouldn't have mattered. Choke harden at worst could've caused an OT. Spurs still win the series.

[raybies]

Didn't play poorly IMO. He didn't get the ball all that much (poor passing lineups with LMA, Danny, Patty and Simmons who was looking to score) and he still had 6 pts on 3/3 shooting, 5 assists and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Only a -1 while playing next to Lamarcus who was a black hole.

I am still a fan, it's probably better for his career to be traded. He's still a young guy and needs to compete and play.

But he likely stays bc Spurs have more pressing needs in the team and guys in a big slalary. So I think he stays for next season but then he's gone. I wouldn't blame him tbh.

I've said here before that Kyle could be a draymond type player. He can be that offensively at least. Defensively he's a little gimmicky but he's passable at worst. He can guard the post versus most matchups and has the length to disrupt shots. He gets about a steal a game and/or a block. I'd like to see him at four more tbh. I'd also like to start developing his post game against the mismatch and see if he can pass out a double team if/when it comes to that. Watching Aldridge miss read after read is frustrating. The two bigs attempt failed. Time to get with the times. Beef Kyle up and start him at four. In this scenario you keep Green, Simmons, Stretch Pau, and let Patty and Dedmon go.

Starting Five
Murray
Green
Kawhi
Kyle
Aldridge

Groom Murray for the third option. Get him in the pick and roll all summer. Green gives the spacing and D. Leonard we know. Aldridge second option. Anderson gives that passing and ball movement we sorely lack with the first unit. I really like the length of this unit too. You can switch 1-4 for the most part. And Anderson is a pretty reliable rebounder.

Bench
vet pg that can shoot threes
Simmons
Rookie Defender Hanga?
Bertans
Gasol /Milutinov?

Leaves us looking for a playmaking Combo guard or PG in the draft or a defensive minded roll big, kinda like dedmon.

[Mikeanaro]

Sure, but he players that are old on contenders coast a lot. When it mattered TP was very consistent. Manu was bad both regular and post season. That showed me more than TP is what I'm saying.

When it mattered Porker got injured, and I dont see him playing like Manu at age 39 so shhh.

[TheGreatYacht]

When it mattered Porker got injured, and I dont see him playing like Manu at age 39 so shhh.

Manure is reaching 2016 Kobe level inefficiency.... thankfully Parker will never be inefficient in his career. Always high FG%....

[Mikeanaro]

Role players don't drop 34/12 in your most important game of the season.

Stupid troll, there was also a game 7 in SA if things went bad, where is your 34/12 superstar now?

[Mikeanaro]

Manure is reaching 2016 Kobe level inefficiency.... thankfully Parker will never be inefficient in his career. Always high FG%....

Nope, Manu is the main reason why Spurs still work as a team, the day Manu leaves this team will be Utah Jazz.

[timtonymanu]

Just embrace the fact that LMA is a role player at this point. Get him shots off the pick and roll, let him shoot open threes, let him crash the offensive boards. He can still be a productive, efficient player that way. No more post-ups. Couple that with his improved defense and there's no reason why he should be considered dead weight.

Well it makes his contract look even worse. The Spurs are paying 80 million for a Serge Ibaka type of production.

[TheGreatYacht]

Nope, Manu is the main reason why Spurs still work as a team, the day Manu leaves this team will be Utah Jazz.

Stupid troll. Didn't expect a good reply from a Spurs fan from Argentina.

[Mikeanaro]

Stupid troll. Didn't expect a good reply from a Spurs fan from Argentina.

Are you calling me a troll? who are you?, the fat guy with the blonde chick or the Justin Bieber kid?

[99 Problems]

Tough hard nosed defensive guard like Marcus Smart. Let's start with this. Already meet Bonner. He'd be great next to Whi.

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you calling me a troll? who are you?, the fat guy with the blonde chick or the Justin Bieber kid?

What the are you talking about? You Manure fans can't go one paragraph without speaking nonsense

[TheGreatYacht]

Tough hard nosed defensive guard like Marcus Smart. Let's start with this. Already meet Bonner. He'd be great next to Whi.

Yup... either him or Bradley. They'll be on the trade block this summer

[FkLA]

Well it makes his contract look even worse. The Spurs are paying 80 million for a Serge Ibaka type of production.

Well tbf Ibaka will be making upwards of $20 million/yr on his upcoming contract.

I'd rather have Ibaka though, honestly.

[Mikeanaro]

What the are you talking about? You Manure fans can't go one paragraph without speaking nonsense

Its not me, is the LaManure All effect.

[ElNono]

Didn't play poorly IMO. He didn't get the ball all that much (poor passing lineups with LMA, Danny, Patty and Simmons who was looking to score) and he still had 6 pts on 3/3 shooting, 5 assists and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Only a -1 while playing next to Lamarcus who was a black hole.

I am still a fan, it's probably better for his career to be traded. He's still a young guy and needs to compete and play.

But he likely stays bc Spurs have more pressing needs in the team and guys in a big slalary. So I think he stays for next season but then he's gone. I wouldn't blame him tbh.

What are they going to replace him with for the amount they will be paying him? Probably not anything better. So unless they need to move him to enable them to sign another bigger name player, I don't expect him to be going anywhere.

What they need to do with him is exactly what I've said for a long time - he needs to get with a strength coach and a "nutritionist" in the offseason, and settle into the 4. I still say he's not anything else.

I thought he was up for renewal... he's probably ok for bench filler...

[SAGirl]

I thought he was up for renewal... he's probably ok for bench filler...

The 4th season of his rook deal is still guaranteed for next season. Still under contract and not a RFA yet.

He is eligible for an extension, so maybe that confused you if you saw something on a website about the 2014 draft class being eligible for extensions. But it obviously doesn't make sense for either team or player... only max type guy get extensions if we get real.

He likely is gone after next season CoJo style.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Also they Spurs need to figure out what to do with Kyle Anderson, tbh... what's his role going to be

This is the easiest part - he'll continue to be jack of all trades cheap player who could soak up regular season minutes on 3 positions without ing things up majorly most of the time. There's value in this.

[cd021]

Also they Spurs need to figure out what to do with Kyle Anderson, tbh... what's his role going to be

Start him at PF.
Not necessarily every game ,particularly against a team like New Orleans but the 2 traditional big man SLs have run their course.

Mills-Green-Leonard-Anderson-Aldridge

Anderson can board, defend on the perimeter, and is an above average passer (which would ease the play making burden off Leonard and Mill- who really can't consistently create for others as a starter)

He needs to continue to work on his corner 3's and possibly get stronger to keep from getting bullied in the post but in a 20 mpg role like last night he should be fine.

[-21-]

Start him at PF.
Not necessarily every game ,particularly against a team like New Orleans but the 2 traditional big man SLs have run their course.

Mills-Green-Leonard-Anderson-Aldridge

Anderson can board, defend on the perimeter, and is an above average passer (which would ease the play making burden off Leonard and Mill- who really can't consistently create for others as a starter)

He needs to continue to work on his corner 3's and possibly get stronger to keep from getting bullied in the post but in a 20 mpg role like last night he should be fine.

This would be an ideal scenario but he's got to improve a lot and show some consistency to become a starter. Right now he just seems like a placeholder for when someone needs to sit. Sometimes I don't even realize he's on the floor. He doesn't make too much mistakes but he also does nothing to make his presence felt. He should be less passive offensively and take some of those open looks he keeps getting.