Go to 5:44 of this:
Use drones to shoot at them all...and if they die..they die...
We need to send a message to all these militia groups that they can be got without hand to hand combat....need to send a strong message to these guys..I liken them to radical Muslims except they don't wear turbands
Well I just read that they aren't even surrounding them. They can go in and out at will because they don't want it to look "siege-y". that bull .
They are out in the middle of nowhere, and haven't done anything but trespass. If you can even consider it trespass. It's a vacated part of public property.
Did you also recommend droning the rioters in Ferguson and Baltimore?
so they acquitted the leaders smh
... if they had been Black Panthers, or Native Americans
white privilege
got together, trashed govt property, no conspiracy
what about $100Ks damage to govt property?
"Bundy and others, including his brother and co-defendant Ryan Bundy, cast the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge as a legitimate and patriotic act of civil disobedience"
#RedNeckLivesMatter
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oregon-standoff-refuge-not-guilty_us_5812858ce4b0990edc303679?utm_medium=emai l&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20102816&utm_ content=The%20Morning%20Email%20102816+CID_df96390 24d4c1055c0e3b94c76d3cbe3&utm_source=Email%20marke ting%20software&utm_term=Reuters
Is there a separate trial for non-conspiratorial damaging of taxpayers' stuff?
white people with the US govt, get off
Native Americans, supporters with BigOil, get attacked by milatraized riot cops, beaten, tazed, pepper sprayed, arrested, strip searched, jailed.
Juror explains Bundy acquittals: Arrogant prosecutors failed to prove armed takeover was conspiracy
Nickens said he polled the jurors Oct. 20, shortly after deliberations began, and found the other jurors had already made up their minds to acquit
judge’s instructions prevented the jury from relying on the defendants’ “defining actions” to prove they had conspired to prevent federal employees from carrying out their official duties through intimidation, threat or force at the Malheur National Wildlife Preserve.
“We were not asked to judge on bullets and hurt feelings,
rather to decide if any agreement was made with an illegal object in mind,” the juror wrote. “It seemed this basic, high standard of proof was lost upon the prosecution throughout.”
jury members were persuaded by defense arguments that they should
not confuse the “effect” of the occupation from the “intent” of the occupiers.
jury members ... were insulted by the perceived arrogance of the prosecutors.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/juro...e+Raw+Story%29
Seems like the judge ed the jury and was biased against the prosecutors. US govt must appeal.
what ever happened to the two FBI agents that lied about shooting Fini and tampered with the crime scene and took the bullet casing?
mens rea, boutons. you can't have a criminal conspiracy without it.
jury members were persuaded by defense arguments that they should
not confuse the “effect” of the occupation from the “intent” of the occupiers.
conspiracy is tricky to prove. the government might have had an easier time getting lesser charges to stick.
so the bubbas just randomly, accidentally happened to show up at the same time, same place, armed, to occupy, trash taxpayers' property?
It as ING CONSPIRACY to commit a crime.
This could not have helped the prosecution much
Minoggio was one of 15 confidential informants who fed the FBI information about the occupiers, testimony showed.
Nine of the 15 were at the refuge for various lengths of time between Jan. 4 and Jan. 26, according to a statement that Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig Gabriel read to jurors. Those nine included the three who have been identified at trial: Minoggio, defense witness Terri Linnell of California and Mark McConnell, who was the driver of the Jeep that Ammon Bundy was riding in when he was arrested on Jan. 26.
None of the unidentified other six informants were at the refuge beyond Jan. 23, Gabriel told jurors.
Killman, defense lawyer Tiffany Harris pointed out in a written legal brief, was a participant in the firearms and military-style maneuvers training during the occupation and helped train one of the defendants, Jeff Banta, in hand-to-hand combat techniques.
He spoke with a French or South African accent to people at the refuge and his Facebook profile included a majority of friends who occupied the refuge, according to defense lawyers. Defense investigators learned Minoggio was born in Switzerland and had served in the Swiss army for 20 years. He was trained in "psy-ops,'' weaponry and martial arts, according to Harris' legal brief.
"We are dealing here with a situation of a confidential informant who is participating in the commission of the alleged offense,'' defense lawyer Marcus Mumford said in court.
Earlier Monday, prosecutors had refused to confirm if the man who went by "Mr. Killman'' was working for the government.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Barrow said prosecutors aren't obligated to disclose any information identifying informants. If a person takes the witness stand and isn't truthful about their role, then the government would be responsible to come forward and correct any misinformation, he said.
Harris, who is standby counsel to defendant Shawna Cox, said Killman had been adamant that he wasn't an FBI informant, yet unredacted records that defense lawyers had from the government on the 15 confidential sources provided supporting material to suggest that he was acting in that capacity. They believe he was classified as the FBI's "confidential source No. 2.''
Brown called the matter "a very unique scenario.'' She ruled that she wouldn't order the government to identify any of its 15 confidential sources, but if a witness testifies in a way that the government knows is false, "then we have a different story.''
Defense lawyer Matthew Schindler, who represents defendant Kenneth Medenbach, argued that the defense team had the right to know who the "mystery people'' were who brought the 22 long guns and 12 handguns to the refuge that prosecutors had FBI agents parade before jurors. Schindler pointed out that prosecutors and the FBI didn't identify who brought most the guns.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...tness_con.html
finally, Barry going crazy pissed-off knitter on the White Boys.
I'd love to hear Barry say, paraphrasing Cloven, "Let Me Tell You About The White Boy"
Obama Declares Site Of The 2014 Bundy Standoff A National Monument
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obam...+%28TPMNews%29
ROFL I'm watching the Frontline episode about the Bundy bags and the Malheur occupation. This is hilarious, they're showing video the gots in Lavoy Finicium's car took when he was shot. LOL them crying about him getting shot when he kept reaching to his waist.
Let's see if TSA can unholster Donald's from his mouth long enough to weigh in on this.
Last edited by Th'Pusher; 05-16-2017 at 10:32 PM.
to answer OP and to quote the president of the united states of america, "bomb the out of them and take out their families"
what ever happened to the two FBI agents that lied about shooting Fini and tampered with the crime scene and took the bullet casing?
It took you four days to pull Donald's out of your mouth?
talking all that about how they were all ready to start a civil war and die for their cause. First guy to get popped and they're crying like pussies and surrendering. Sounds about right for the typical right wing gun nut.
what ever happened to the two FBI agents that lied about shooting Fini and tampered with the crime scene and took the bullet casing?
LOL the guy kept reaching for his waist like going for a weapon and telling them just to shoot him and people are pissed he got shot.
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