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[sasaint]

Can't they use Bird rights to re-sign Red ? They'll probably trot out the same squad next season.

That's what I figure. So how does Paul assess their "known" roster to the Spurs' unknown?

New question - does anybody know what Paul's relationship with Doc is like?

[raybies]

I think that is my point, though - speculation. Just as we fans speculate, Paul has to speculate, too. But we fans aren't speculating with millions of dollars at stake. That kind of speculation can make a guy a lot more conservative. That's a +/- $50MM gamble we aren't making.

really depends where he is at mentally tbh. If he wants to win and he's all about winning at this point of his career, it's not unprecedented, as far as players go in general, that he'd leave money on the table for a better chance to win. And the argument for leaving 50+ and that's valid but you just never know. He's made a lot of money off endorsements... As a fan I'd be happy with whatever and what's 150 million to 200 million to us mortals but i can say this as a compe ive player, you hate to lose and all the money in the world can't cure that feeling. From a fan's perspective we'd call it selling out for money, but for him it's tough to say. From what I gather he's a fierce compe or and he put's it all on the line and if he knows that he'll lose it's best for him to leave. He's the one that has to live with the regrets and lack of legacy he leaves. When your great you want people to know your great. You want to feel like you made a difference and for the most part all people care about is rings. With the current mood of players he could very well come here. James, Allen, Durant, etc. Some people get tired of losing man. Sometimes all you want is to win. He's in a business. When you work in a business you want to get to the top. No one wants to work a dead end job. It's depressing... It'll be a tough decision and speaking as unbiased as possible, the best basketball move is to move on here imo. He's had several years to get it done and the personel just isn't getting it done and with questionable roster moves i think you doubt management's ability to produce a winner as well as players like Griffin and DeAndre and if they can get it done. But let's face he is their best player right now. They are at their best when Blake is playing extremely well and like a #1 option. A lot to juggle.

[sasaint]

My guy making sense

IF you take it all at face value and not as posturing. I don't think it is a given that the Clips would offer Paul a super-max deal.

[raybies]

So let's say Griffin and Paul resign, what kind of trash team are the Clippers putting on the floor next year after Red and a whole bunch of their FAs leave?

pretty much. their cap situation is a mess

[soxxx]

Also you have to keep in mind, Chris Paul is Lebron James closest friend in the league, closer than even Dwayne Wade, its not outside the realm of possibility Paul will feel compelled because it would be the next closest thing to him playing with James, (beating golden state of course).

[coachmac87]

IF you take it all at face value and not as posturing. I don't think it is a given that the Clips would offer Paul a super-max deal.

I dunno man I think that's there ONLY chance....

Unless they pull something sneaky and try to get Melo or something that's another selling point they could have.

[sasaint]

really depends where he is at mentally tbh. If he wants to win and he's all about winning at this point of his career, it's not unprecedented, as far as players go in general, that he'd leave money on the table for a better chance to win. And the argument for leaving 50+ and that's valid but you just never know. He's made a lot of money off endorsements... As a fan I'd be happy with whatever and what's 150 million to 200 million to us mortals but i can say this as a compe ive player, you hate to lose and all the money in the world can't cure that feeling. From a fan's perspective we'd call it selling out for money, but for him it's tough to say. From what I gather he's a fierce compe or and he put's it all on the line and if he knows that he'll lose it's best for him to leave. He's the one that has to live with the regrets and lack of legacy he leaves. When your great you want people to know your great. You want to feel like you made a difference and for the most part all people care about is rings. With the current mood of players he could very well come here. James, Allen, Durant, etc. Some people get tired of losing man. Sometimes all you want is to win. He's in a business. When you work in a business you want to get to the top. No one wants to work a dead end job. It's depressing... It'll be a tough decision and speaking as unbiased as possible, the best basketball move is to move on here imo. He's had several years to get it done and the personel just isn't getting it done and with questionable roster moves i think you doubt management's ability to produce a winner as well as players like Griffin and DeAndre and if they can get it done. But let's face he is their best player right now. They are at their best when Blake is playing extremely well and like a #1 option. A lot to juggle.

Good points. And I have stated in several threads over the last week or so that I don't think it's a given that the Clips will give him a super-max deal. The same arguments you just posed work from that organization's perspective, too. They gotta be asking if they want to stand pat moving forward. They are asking themselves whether they want to invest like 80% of their roster in 3 guys who haven't gotten it done. So, who are their "keepers"? Let Blake go and fill-in? Let Paul go and keep Blake or just try to replace them and rebuild?

[sasaint]

pretty much. their cap situation is a mess

Exactly. That organization has some tough decisions to make which could definitely affect Paul.

[BatManu20]

I think he's seriously considering us, sure, but I still don't think it happens. With that said, this seems to be picking up some steam, and where's there's smoke... Should be interesting.

[coachmac87]

really depends where he is at mentally tbh. If he wants to win and he's all about winning at this point of his career, it's not unprecedented, as far as players go in general, that he'd leave money on the table for a better chance to win. And the argument for leaving 50+ and that's valid but you just never know. He's made a lot of money off endorsements... As a fan I'd be happy with whatever and what's 150 million to 200 million to us mortals but i can say this as a compe ive player, you hate to lose and all the money in the world can't cure that feeling. From a fan's perspective we'd call it selling out for money, but for him it's tough to say. From what I gather he's a fierce compe or and he put's it all on the line and if he knows that he'll lose it's best for him to leave. He's the one that has to live with the regrets and lack of legacy he leaves. When your great you want people to know your great. You want to feel like you made a difference and for the most part all people care about is rings. With the current mood of players he could very well come here. James, Allen, Durant, etc. Some people get tired of losing man. Sometimes all you want is to win. He's in a business. When you work in a business you want to get to the top. No one wants to work a dead end job. It's depressing... It'll be a tough decision and speaking as unbiased as possible, the best basketball move is to move on here imo. He's had several years to get it done and the personel just isn't getting it done and with questionable roster moves i think you doubt management's ability to produce a winner as well as players like Griffin and DeAndre and if they can get it done. But let's face he is their best player right now. They are at their best when Blake is playing extremely well and like a #1 option. A lot to jugglie.

Great post. I just find it fascinating that this is like the 3rd report since the Spurs have been eliminated..I can't recall a FA getting this much attention before the NBA season ended.

And to the people talking about the $$...that's a vanilla take. We know the Clippers can offer the most $$ but there's reason behind all this. What moves can Clippers make to improve roster? What will Spurs roster look like? There is more selling points other than a MAX contract

[spursistan]

I think he's seriously considering us, sure, but I still don't think it happens. With that said, this seems to be picking up some steam, and where's there's smoke... Should be interesting.

let's hope CP3 got demoralized watching the Warriors last night and said to himself "There is no effin way I'm sniffing a ring here"...Superteams is the way to go..

[$pursDynasty]

what would stop CP3 from pulling a LeBron, sign a 2 year deal, with a player option for the 3rd year with the Spurs for way less than the max. Get a ring, then possibly return to the Clippers or the Hornets for the big money deal. He gets a ring, learns the secrets of the post season, and while he is gone the Clippers get to restock with lottery picks. In the short run he loses a little cash but if he could go back to the Clippers after 2-3 years away with a ring or two, he would probably still get a max deal, while not as big as what he could get if he stayed and the money given up while with the Spurs, it would be more than made for in marketing $'s returning to Los Angeles as a Champion.

[raybies]

what would stop CP3 from pulling a LeBron, sign a 2 year deal, with a player option for the 3rd year with the Spurs for way less than the max. Get a ring, then possibly return to the Clippers or the Hornets for the big money deal. He gets a ring, learns the secrets of the post season, and while he is gone the Clippers get to restock with lottery picks. In the short run he loses a little cash but if he could go back to the Clippers after 2-3 years away with a ring or two, he would probably still get a max deal, while not as big as what he could get if he stayed and the money given up while with the Spurs, it would be more than made for in marketing $'s returning to Los Angeles as a Champion.

Perfect. We'd have Murray. He's not taking less. This might be his last major payday.

[Drom John]

what would stop CP3 from pulling a LeBron, sign a 2 year deal, with a player option for the 3rd year with the Spurs for way less than the max. Get a ring, then possibly return to the Clippers or the Hornets for the big money deal. He gets a ring, learns the secrets of the post season, and while he is gone the Clippers get to restock with lottery picks. In the short run he loses a little cash but if he could go back to the Clippers after 2-3 years away with a ring or two, he would probably still get a max deal, while not as big as what he could get if he stayed and the money given up while with the Spurs, it would be more than made for in marketing $'s returning to Los Angeles as a Champion.

I'd be fine with that.

[Clipper Nation]

let's hope CP3 got demoralized watching the Warriors last night and said to himself "There is no effin way I'm sniffing a ring here"...Superteams is the way to go..

He's not sniffing a ring with the Spurs either. He's not sniffing a ring until he either learns to stop overdribbling and choking or goes ring-chasing in his late 30s.

[Keepin' it real]

i cracked myself up...

[spursistan]

I will have to think back channels may have already been established by now to gauge his real interest in order to prepare contingent roster plans (dumps, trade ..etc)..

Still I would say it's more like %75-%25 to the Clippers whereas KD was something like 5%-7% chance..

[TD 21]

let's hope CP3 got demoralized watching the Warriors last night and said to himself "There is no effin way I'm sniffing a ring here"...Superteams is the way to go..

I will have to think back channels may have already been established by now to gauge his real interest in order to prepare contingent roster plans (dumps, trade ..etc)..

Still I would say it's more like %75-%25 to the Clippers whereas KD was something like 5%-7% chance..

Good point about destroying Clippers too. Knock them out of picture, vault a clear level above Rockets and at least assure (barring injury, of course) making the WCF the next few seasons.

[BatManu20]

[SAGirl]

The Dubs probably win 3 straight anyway.

There are other teams poised to supplant the Spurs in the NBA pecking order and succeed the Dubs when their reign ends - most obviously the Celts, with plenty of young pieces and plenty of high draft picks. A trade or big FA, and they could easily become a very elite team.

They could have had a star and maybe given Lebron fits, but yea they didn't want to lose depth...

[sasaint]

They could have had a star and maybe given Lebron fits, but yea they didn't want to lose depth...

Yeah, I am not a big fan of what DAinge did with his picks last draft day. But the Celts did make the Conference Finals in the Least doing what they have done. They are one legitimate star from giving LeBron fits going forward, and they have the stockpile of assets to do something big this draft. Plus, I like what some of the other young teams have done in the last year or so.

I like some of the scenarios set forth by some ST posters to make a bold move or two this draft. I think GSH is absolutely right about this being a critical draft for the Spurs. We need to get some young talent on cheap contracts to pay the LMA/Pau/Manu/TP mortgage. I don't want to take on a CP3 mortgage. I want to give the keys to Murray as we did TP at a tender age.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

He's not sniffing a ring with the Spurs either. He's not sniffing a ring until he either learns to stop overdribbling and choking or goes ring-chasing in his late 30s.

So much salt, lets see what a real coach can do with talent like CP3.

LOL Vinny DelNegr
LOL Dc Rivers

[rasuo214]

Yeah, I am not a big fan of what DAinge did with his picks last draft day. But the Celts did make the Conference Finals in the Least doing what they have done. They are one legitimate star from giving LeBron fits going forward, and they have the stockpile of assets to do something big this draft. Plus, I like what some of the other young teams have done in the last year or so.

I like some of the scenarios set forth by some ST posters to make a bold move or two this draft. I think GSH is absolutely right about this being a critical draft for the Spurs. We need to get some young talent on cheap contracts to pay the LMA/Pau/Manu/TP mortgage. I don't want to take on a CP3 mortgage. I want to give the keys to Murray as we did TP at a tender age.

The problem is Ainge is very stingy with that talent and those picks. Either he overvalues them or he refuses to make any deal where he doesn't clearly win.

[sasaint]

The problem is Ainge is very stingy with that talent and those picks. Either he overvalues them or he refuses to make any deal where he doesn't clearly win.

No question - that's been his MO. But he has an embarrassment of riches right now, and I expect him to make a big move this off season.

[gambit1990]

spurs were fine without parker.

kawhi did so much heavy lifting in game 1 against the warriors. him with cp3?