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    Meanwhile, the Spurs lost because they played soft and Wells, Artest, Martin, and Miller were playing inspired basketball. They basically owned the Spurs once they smelled blood in the closing minutes of the 2nd quarter.

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    Parker should be attacking Bibby more. Bibby can't stop Parker.

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    Parker should be attacking Bibby more. Bibby can't stop Parker.
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    Wait until this season before you claim Tony stinks. In the past, he had no jumper. Since the AllStar break, he has made 46% of his jumpers. Yesterday of his 10 made baskets, four were jumpers.

    You should be hammering the out of Manu. He hasn't defended this series and the last two games has sucked offensively. Why are you concentrating on Tony?


    No one on our team can defend Wells or Artest so I do not hold manu strictly responsible. Look we all understand that possessions are of a premium in the playoffs. Tony handles the ball way to much even though he is the point guard. How many mulligans are we going to give him for running down the shot clock to then driving the lane and forcing a shot or throwing a bad pass.. I do not blame Tony completely for this I also blame our coaching staff for not telling Tony that some days he is not going to be able to get to the basket.. I want him to make our team better even if he cannot play his game..If his game is not on our whole team suffers unlike if manu if he has a bad game..

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    No one on our team can defend Wells or Artest so I do not hold manu strictly responsible. Look we all understand that possessions are of a premium in the playoffs. Tony handles the ball way to much even though he is the point guard. How many mulligans are we going to give him for running down the shot clock to then driving the lane and forcing a shot or throwing a bad pass.. I do not blame Tony completely for this I also blame our coaching staff for not telling Tony that some days he is not going to be able to get to the basket.. I want him to make our team better even if he cannot play his game..If his game is not on our whole team suffers unlike if manu if he has a bad game..
    Okay then blame the coaching staff.

    Believe me, Tony only does what he is told. Pop rules Tony.

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    Wait until this season before you claim Tony stinks. In the past, he had no jumper. Since the AllStar break, he has made 46% of his jumpers. Yesterday of his 10 made baskets, four were jumpers.

    You should be hammering the out of Manu. He hasn't defended this series and the last two games has sucked offensively. Why are you concentrating on Tony?

    Did he get a jumper that I wasn't aware of ? There is a reason the Kings go under the screen on Parker - there is a reason they leave him and dare him to shoot jumpers - you have to know it isn't by accident don't you ? teams want him to shoot jumpers because his jumper is BROKE.

    1 assist last night ? 1 assist? heck tim was 7 of 11 from the field - he should have gotten at least 20 shots - not Parker. He is the PG and on this team with all these shooters he should be passing - he should be creating scoring opportunities for his team- he doesn't do that. He either gets to the rim with his speed or he is steve francis without the hops -- dribble - dribble -- dribble - dribble some more -- shoot.

    Of course the lane is closed - there is no secret to stopping Parker - close the lane and if needed knock him on his butt and he will fade just like he did against the Lakers a few years back and the Pistons last year.

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    Last year Tony averaged 17 ppg in the postseason.

    Yes, when they collapsed the lane on him (especially in the Detroit series), he didn't have a solution because he couldn't hit a jumpshot in the past.

    And no, I don't expect Tony Parker to lead us to a Championship.

    I expect Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Tim Duncan to lead us to a Championship.

    Well Kori everyone is collapsing on us now.. that is why I mentioned his disappearing has happened in the first round this year. I have no choice to support the guy because he is our point guard but that does not mean I have to be enamored with him. One other thing I abhor his moping on the court when things don't go his way..

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    The problem is rebounding.....

    Way, way too many second chance points by the Kings.....

    At one point last night we were out shooting them by 6 or 7 percent, yet trailing by four or five points......

    If they keep beating us to death on second chance points. We are done for...

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    I don't get this thread. The offense is good enough.

    It's defense and rebounding. Parker could be John Stockton out there and the Spurs would still get beat because they can't get a freaking rebound or get a stop to save their lives.

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    how many players in the nba shoot a higher % on jumpers then 46%
    that is what tp has done since the allstar game



    names please

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    I don't get this thread. The offense is good enough.

    It's defense and rebounding. Parker could be John Stockton out there and the Spurs would still get beat because they can't get a freaking rebound or get a stop to save their lives.

    So you have to bring up us getting our a$$es kicked on the boards and porous defense..

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    I just don't get all these threads about stuff that is so secondary.

    Tony has scored 22/25/12/22 points in the series. When he didn't score enough in game 3, Pop told him to keep shooting from outside. Last night he hit four jumpers and six layups. Sure, the ball movement wasn't great. But that isn't the main problem of the Spurs.

    After each game of this series, Spurs fans should be starting one thread -- BONZI WELLS IS KICKING OUR ASS. That's the only thing that's happening this series. It's pretty simple -- Bonzi is averaging 21 and 12 and shooting FIFTY-NINE percent from the floor.

    Slow down Bonzi Wells.

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    how many players in the nba shoot a higher % on jumpers then 46%
    that is what tp has done since the allstar game



    names please

    jumpers? as in outside the lane ? I call bulls--- on that -- you will have to show me that for me to believe that.

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    jumpers? as in outside the lane ? I call bulls--- on that -- you will have to show me that for me to believe that.
    The stats were proven yesterday in another thread. You'll have to go look for it.

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    I just don't get all these threads about stuff that is so secondary.

    Tony has scored 22/25/12/22 points in the series. When he didn't score enough in game 3, Pop told him to keep shooting from outside. Last night he hit four jumpers and six layups. Sure, the ball movement wasn't great. But that isn't the main problem of the Spurs.

    After each game of this series, Spurs fans should be starting one thread -- BONZI WELLS IS KICKING OUR ASS. That's the only thing that's happening this series. It's pretty simple -- Bonzi is averaging 21 and 12 and shooting FIFTY-NINE percent from the floor.

    Slow down Bonzi Wells.

    shoot more after game 3 ? - dude was 4 for 13 - he shoots enough. - the he turned around and threw up ( pun intended) 20 shots and got 1 assist when TImmy could have dominated the game but only got up 11 shots.

    No doubt the thread should be - stop bonzie wells - somebody cowboy the up and stop bonzi wells. The Spurs are making him look like Jordan. Knock that dude on his butt once or twice -get in his head - you already know both he and artest are mental - get in somebody's head.

    REBOUND -- good lord get a rebound. The Spurs play with no heart -- no hunger --- they are just going through the motions.

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    One other thing I abhor his moping on the court when things don't go his way..

    Link? I have NEVER seen Tony "mope". He puts his head down and grinds it out when he makes a mistake or when "things don't go his way". Geez. Even when he comes back in the game from getting his ass chewed by Pop, he has a positive at ude (and he takes everything Pop says to him to heart and can almost repeat it back to you word for word...weeks later). Tony Parker is one of the most humble players on the team. You're gonna have to get serious and quit joking around if you want me to listen to your arguments. You just invalidated anything you've said so far, IMO, with that remark.

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    parker got 10 assist in one game but still tp was not good enough in that game either


    he got the green light from pop


    what was mike and manu shooting % last night manu was 1-4 that is right 25%


    tp needs to balance shooting and assist out but the o is fine

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    Link? I have NEVER seen Tony "mope". He puts his head down and grinds it out when he makes a mistake or when "things don't go his way". Geez. Even when he comes back in the game from getting his ass chewed by Pop, he has a positive at ude (and he takes everything Pop says to him to heart and can almost repeat it back to you word for word...weeks later). Tony Parker is one of the most humble players on the team. You're gonna have to get serious and quit joking around if you want me to listen to your arguments. You just invalidated anything you've said so far, IMO, with that remark.
    humble-
    1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
    2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
    3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.
    4. courteously respectful: In my humble opinion you are wrong.
    5. low in height, level, etc.; small in size: a humble member of the galaxy



    mope-
    1. to be sunk in dejection or listless apathy; sulk; brood.

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    parker got 10 assist in one game but still tp was not good enough in that game either


    he got the green light from pop


    what was mike and manu shooting % last night manu was 1-4 that is right 25%


    tp needs to balance shooting and assist out but the o is fine
    All I can say, ducks, is I'm soooo thankful this clown is not the coach of the Spurs. We need to keep him at least three counties away from the AT&T Center.

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    humble-
    1. not proud or arrogant; modest: to be humble although successful.
    2. having a feeling of insignificance, inferiority, subservience, etc.: In the presence of so many world-famous writers I felt very humble.
    3. low in rank, importance, status, quality, etc.; lowly: of humble origin; a humble home.
    4. courteously respectful: In my humble opinion you are wrong.
    5. low in height, level, etc.; small in size: a humble member of the galaxy



    mope-
    1. to be sunk in dejection or listless apathy; sulk; brood.
    Yes? And?

    (You just proved my point, thanks! That summed up what I said very nicely - the definition of humble describes Tony Parker to a T).

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    Rebounding.

    Bonzi Wells.

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    All I can say, ducks, is I'm soooo thankful this clown is not the coach of the Spurs. We need to keep him at least three counties away from the AT&T Center.

    clown? shouldn't you understand the meaning of a word before you use it?


    So I must agree tony force your way into the lane..force up contested shots.. dibble the shot clock out..

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    Rebounding.

    Bonzi Wells.
    I would add interior D as well. Certainly before discussing Parker.

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    Yes? And?

    (You just proved my point, thanks! That summed up what I said very nicely - the definition of humble describes Tony Parker to a T).

    but i said he moped.. you responded with he was humble... your not very bright are you?

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    clown? shouldn't you understand the meaning of a word before you use it?


    So I must agree tony force your way into the lane..force up contested shots.. dibble the shot clock out..
    Yeah. I do. I'm a grownup (53 yrs old, to be exact). I know the meaning of the word and it's appropriate here. Very appropriate. And every time you post, you prove it.

    Get back with me when you want to have a serious conversation.

    but i said he moped.. you responded with he was humble... your not very bright are you?
    That one speaks for itself.

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