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No jackass. We dumped Russell and Mosgov for Brook.
The Lakers proving to be stupidly impatient, per par.
If the Lakers were a team one key player away from being a contender (like they were in 2007, when they salary dumped Kwame and picks for Gasol), this move would make sense (i.e. salary dumping to sign Paul George next year as the missing piece). But they're not. Signing a superstar player to a team full of young draft picks is about the worst thing you can do for player development. You want your youth getting as many touches as possible and not having to worry about "deferring" to veteran stars. Longo will be okay in that situation, since he's a pass first PG, but Ingram, et al will likely suffer.
I agree D'Bust needed to go. I don't see how he and Longo can co-exist, but the Lakers should've found a team(s) willing to give up current and future mid-first rounders for Russell and Mozgov. Just keep stacking picks and building up the youth movement. And when your main core finally develops out of that movement, then you trade for the missing pieces.
No jackass. We dumped Russell and Mosgov for Brook.
Coming around on Longo?
"I'll disown the Lakers if they draft Ball."
Holding you to it, buddy.
Magic is the LkrFan of NBA executives. Every time he does anything, it will inevitably be followed by an ownage bump.
No more snitching in LA.
Good news.
So much material to bump and so little time.
Makes sense for both teams imo. Between dumping Mozgov and Lopez being an expiring contract, the Lakers free up space next year to chase PG and maybe LeBron. On the other hand, the Nets get a prospect who's likely better than what they could get at the 27th pick.
Kobe did all of those things and yet he's your hero.
Amazing work by Magic
They shed $56 million worth of dead weight, all expense paid for by a cancerous locker room player.
It's pretty clear Russell is a goner when the Lakers secured Lonzo Ball. Truth is, I believe in D'Angelo Russell and I think he'll get an opportunity to pad his stat and raise his value a bit but he clearly doesn't fit anymore. Lonzo Ball will be pushing the ball and D-Slow is just going to drag the team down.
Magic is that dude.
Horrible trade. They got absolutely jack in return to build towards their "youth movement" (lol low first round picks). This move was entirely based on freeing up space for Paul George and maybe another star in 2018.
That plan will blow up in their faces. Look at all the successful teams that built their cores through the draft: Thunder, Warriors, Celtics, Wizards. At no point did they ever pursue a superstar player as their young players were developing. Superstar players playing alongside developing players will only hamper development.
Mozgov's contract wasn't even bad considering the Lakers are light years away from contention. He would've came off the books at about the time the Lakers youth movement will be entering their prime (2020). If Longo and Ingram prove to be a solid duo, but still need another gun, that's when you go after the big fish. In fact, players like Mozgov and Deng are fine to have around young players. They won't take touches away and are basically in collect a paycheck mode.
It's also highly stupid to waste time and money trying to build a contender right now since it's the Warriors conference to lose for the next half-decade. Lakers plan should just be to stack youth and more youth, develop that youth, and then start making moves for stars after the Warriors' peak.
^^While your points are correct, you're ignoring that the Lakers can't afford to be bottom-feeders any longer, tbh..
This was once a proud franchise, this is the longest they have ever went without being successful..5 years of bottom-feeding with only 1 decent prospect to show for it..
They have not been able to adjust to the new landscape of the NBA, which requires front office skills, rather than just relying on geography..they desperately need to win again, even if it peaks as a 2nd round exit..
I'm sure they're feeling pressure from Time Warner, as well. But Paul George basically gets them into maybe 45 win territory, while at the same time taking touches away from Ingram and Longo (even though Longo is a pass-first PG, PGs today need to be threats for 20-30 points regularly). And outside of Lebron and Leonard, there's not an FA who would turn PG, Longo, and Ingram into a contending threat.
Remember when Monte Ellis was the "superstar" of the Warriors? They had no problem trading his ass away so that Steph and Klay could get more touches.
Well that escalated quickly
Horrible trade. They got absolutely jack in return to build towards their "youth movement" (lol low first round picks). This move was entirely based on freeing up space for Paul George and maybe another star in 2018.
That plan will blow up in their faces. Look at all the successful teams that built their cores through the draft: Thunder, Warriors, Celtics, Wizards. At no point did they ever pursue a superstar player as their young players were developing. Superstar players playing alongside developing players will only hamper development.
Mozgov's contract wasn't even bad considering the Lakers are light years away from contention. He would've came off the books at about the time the Lakers youth movement will be entering their prime (2020). If Longo and Ingram prove to be a solid duo, but still need another gun, that's when you go after the big fish. In fact, players like Mozgov and Deng are fine to have around young players. They won't take touches away and are basically in collect a paycheck mode.
It's also highly stupid to waste time and money trying to build a contender right now since it's the Warriors conference to lose for the next half-decade. Lakers plan should just be to stack youth and more youth, develop that youth, and then start making moves for stars after the Warriors' peak.
The worst thing they could do is sit and absorb an unnecessary contract. They have two, mind you, so this really restricts them from a cap standpoint. Under Johnson, they opened up $25 million next season. They also have a Top 12 player basically throwing himself to the franchise for free and most importantly a transcendent draft pick that is more concerned in running plays than scoring to make his presence felt. Barely a year ago, they have 2 toxic salaries and mid tier free agents wouldn't even touch them in free agency.
You also have to realize that they are not operating under the assumption of competing with the Warriors, and if we're being honest here, who really can? The business side is the other equation and I think the Lakers, particularly Jeannie, is under tremendous pressure to bring back an exciting brand of basketball to Staples. TWC's knocking on her door and with the '18 ASG being held in Los Angeles, she's despera to have someone represent her brand at this juncture.
for comparison, same level of prospects turning pro:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/oj-mayo
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/dangelo-russell
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/russell-westbrook
i.e. how much the same level of talent can give vastly different results
aka how much some guys suck ass
That's generous. They'll be lucky to win 40, IMO.
The issue with that is LA is not making the playoffs this year either.
Not they have to make the playoffs by landing more pieces the year after that or its big time trouble.
They will have money and Lonzo/PG/Ingram, but how much work will it take to become a playoff team?
He's just a kid, a child who has been under severe attack since the snitch. Everyone makes mistakes, but, Media had no intention of letting him up because he was a Laker so they egged everyone on, because it didn't matter if he was destroyed,,,he was a nobody, easily jettisoned. & the kicker is it was easy to cut it up...there was nothing on the line for the Lakers, we were so they went after him with a gleeful vengeance. (We) let Kobe up. (They) never put Duncan under the boot.
It was wrong what he did, and he stipulated to it, but, they had no intention of it ending there. Uh, uh.
agree that i dont like this deal ...But you lost me at the contract wasnt that bad ...
Horrible trade. They got absolutely jack in return to build towards their "youth movement" (lol low first round picks). This move was entirely based on freeing up space for Paul George and maybe another star in 2018.
That plan will blow up in their faces. Look at all the successful teams that built their cores through the draft: Thunder, Warriors, Celtics, Wizards. At no point did they ever pursue a superstar player as their young players were developing. Superstar players playing alongside developing players will only hamper development.
Mozgov's contract wasn't even bad considering the Lakers are light years away from contention. He would've came off the books at about the time the Lakers youth movement will be entering their prime (2020). If Longo and Ingram prove to be a solid duo, but still need another gun, that's when you go after the big fish. In fact, players like Mozgov and Deng are fine to have around young players. They won't take touches away and are basically in collect a paycheck mode.
It's also highly stupid to waste time and money trying to build a contender right now since it's the Warriors conference to lose for the next half-decade. Lakers plan should just be to stack youth and more youth, develop that youth, and then start making moves for stars after the Warriors' peak.
only Spurstalk ...Russell is a bust, yet we made a mistake by jettisoning him ...smh
agreed. if we get him for Clarkson and two picks great ...if he will cost us more ...and george doesbt come ...same resukt as missing out on Melo, Dwight, Aldridge or Pau tbh
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