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    They also had a Parker good enough to build an offense around. Going from the Zipper Series to Kawhiso was the biggest reason for the offense stalling. That's not because Kawhi isn't a bad player or whatever. It's because Pop still hasn't figured out a way to leverage Kawhi's talent to make a system where everyone gets more shots. LMA didn't disrupt the offense -- Pop wanted him precisely because he fit the new offense he created. LMA the bed as an iso guy, and indeed, he wanted and wants to be one. Rather than bringing him in for that, though, Pop should have built a system where guys got touches in better players off more dynamic sets. LMA may have still been a wet noodle, but he would have been a better noodle.
    What dynamic sets and what places? They got Gasol to stretch his game to the 3 point line. You don't think they asked LMA to expand his game similarly? It's not like they haven't been running pnr to get 3s from wings and corner for 20 years at this point. Bonner, Horry, Ferry ring a bell?

    I watched them run pnr, weakside screens, staggered screens, motion, and misdirection to help him get post position. I really really wanted him to drop step and pivot towards the hoop but 7 out of 10 he was turning away from it for that fadeaway. At the end of the day sometimes you need to overpower someone when establishing position or dislodge people with your power dribble. Boris Diaw was more physical. It drives me batty when LMA passes out when a rotation gets him a smaller player and then take that turnaround on the repost.

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    Who cares hes fat

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    So does Pick #2 plus Ingram for LMA
    That doesn't work, mathematically

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    So it really was a train wreck as I said, nobody deserves the blame for you open brick shots, smh.

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    Spurs won that game because Harden had the worst playoff game for a superstar that I can remember in my lifetime. And when Harden sucks the Rockets suck even harder. Aldridge 30 something points weren't the game changers, it was the Rockets scoring only 70 something pts.

    Stop trying to concede credit were isn't due, tbh. Spurs won't miss a bit without this possession wasting POS.
    Look, I'm not advocating to keep LMA or anything. I'm fine trading him tbh..I'm just not at the same level of blind hatred for the guy and I think there is some truth to his frustrations.

    Does that make him not a baby for crying about it? No. But that also does not make it somewhat true.

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    He let the team down when he was needed the most. Cant blame the spurs system for being a loser. If he wants to be an all star again well go be an all star... The spurs are trying to win rings.

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    I guess getting him wide ass open mid range shots and giving him the ball on the block time and time again, despite him not doing , is "limiting" him.
    He is just a whiny about not being the number 1 guy. I thought he was coming to the Spurs, to try and be a part of a legit le contender. Nope. He wanted to come here and still get his numbers. That is about it..

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    He let the team down when he was needed the most. Cant blame the spurs system for being a loser. If he wants to be an all star again well go be an all star... The spurs are trying to win rings.
    Exactly!! I just worry about what we can get for him. Only 1 year left on his deal, and teams knowing he is unhappy are not going to part ways with much IMO. At the same, it is out there he is unhappy. Having him on the team next season will be a distraction..

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    Look, I'm not advocating to keep LMA or anything. I'm fine trading him tbh..I'm just not at the same level of blind hatred for the guy and I think there is some truth to his frustrations.

    Does that make him not a baby for crying about it? No. But that also does not make it somewhat true.
    Let's see, tell me which type of plays Portland used to run for LA, that Pop didn't run for him in SA?
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    I don't understand what LMA's problem is, nor do i understand why everyone has a problem with him. The whole year, the offense revolved around Kawhi/Tony, with LMA being a 2nd/3rd banana depending on matchups. Then when those two go down and the Spurs are playing the best team in the league, we expect LMA to magically be a prime TD and average 20/20. That's not who LMA is at this point.

    Yes, he played soft and got pushed around. But holy , injuries just derailed the entire thing. I don't understand why you don't just try it again next year.

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    Look, I'm not advocating to keep LMA or anything. I'm fine trading him tbh..I'm just not at the same level of blind hatred for the guy and I think there is some truth to his frustrations.

    Does that make him not a baby for crying about it? No. But that also does not make it somewhat true.
    You want to take that position sure but you cannot justify it with any real examples. I even went so far as to show ways in which they tried to help him get looks.

    You have nothing but your assertion.

    You asked me to justify saying his numbers were down in a very childish manner but I overlooked it and did it anyway. You lack honor in your hypocrisy.

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    Let's see, tell me which type of plays Portland used to run for LA, that Pop didn't run for him in SA?

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    You are truly an idiot. Of the highest order.

    If you have to ask how POR offense differs from SA's then you either: A) dont watch any basketball outside of SA or B) don't understand SA's offense very well at all.

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    Exactly!! I just worry about what we can get for him. Only 1 year left on his deal, and teams knowing he is unhappy are not going to part ways with much IMO. At the same, it is out there he is unhappy. Having him on the team next season will be a distraction..
    He will not be here next season. If he is still a Spur tomorrow morning, I will be disappointed.

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    It's the Spurs fault he can't score on James Harden in the post.

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    You are truly an idiot. Of the highest order.

    If you have to ask how POR offense differs from SA's then you either: A) dont watch any basketball outside of SA or B) don't understand SA's offense very well at all.
    Enlighten me please. What kind of touches did LA get in Portland, that he didn't in San Antonio? You make it sound like it's very obvious but I have yet to see you actually explaining it.

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    3. This is a decent blow to SA the free agent destination. Grab a legit FA star and it sours so quickly. Ramifications down the road?
    More than losing him, this is what I'm most worried about. Big FAs had just started giving SA serious consideration. This isn't a good look even if LMA is the one at fault. DWorst left on a bad more too IIRC.

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    I wouldn't mind trading him for a one year rental of PG...at least we'll have an exciting team and if PG leaves we just free up a ton of space for next summer
    Joe Korny

    This trade might be as good as it gets.
    If Porzinger is out of reach.

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    No way Spurs are getting Porzingod, that is a pipedream tbh...Phil is asking way too much for a player he doesn't even seem to want he wants Celts #3, brooklyn's 2018, Crowder and Brown...spurs can't even come close to that offer for Kristaps tbh

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    You are truly an idiot. Of the highest order.

    If you have to ask how POR offense differs from SA's then you either: A) dont watch any basketball outside of SA or B) don't understand SA's offense very well at all.
    All I see someone that cannot articulate what they mean and acts like a child when asked to explain themselves.

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    More than losing him, this is what I'm most worried about. Big FAs had just started giving SA serious consideration. This isn't a good look even if LMA is the one at fault. DWorst left on a bad more too IIRC.
    Lol, where the F did that quote come from?

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    More than losing him, this is what I'm most worried about. Big FAs had just started giving SA serious consideration. This isn't a good look even if LMA is the one at fault. DWorst left on a bad more too IIRC.
    Gasol is better respected and he's sticking around for more years.

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    All I see someone that cannot articulate what they mean and acts like a child when asked to explain themselves.
    Nah - I can and have articulated myself plenty of times. I just dont care to for someone as annoying as you tbh..Especially when you have proven over and over you are a fake know it all and that even when people take their time to educate you, you still argue and are terrible to interact with

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    I don't understand what LMA's problem is, nor do i understand why everyone has a problem with him. The whole year, the offense revolved around Kawhi/Tony, with LMA being a 2nd/3rd banana depending on matchups. Then when those two go down and the Spurs are playing the best team in the league, we expect LMA to magically be a prime TD and average 20/20. That's not who LMA is at this point.

    Yes, he played soft and got pushed around. But holy , injuries just derailed the entire thing. I don't understand why you don't just try it again next year.
    Because he was purportedly late to the exit interview, according to "Spurstalk" sources. Simply unacceptable.

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