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    His contract in raw terms is actually reflective of his limitations. It's just that SA needs more than regular season minutes soakers.

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    What like superstar, consistent impact? He's had his share of good playoffs games along the bunch of bad ones. Pretty typical for a role player.
    Problem is he's not a role player on this team. He's the best guard now on a 4 year deal and the highest paid.

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    Spurs have something up their sleeves. We're an hour in.

    Mills is easily one of the best 'locker room' guys in this league. He took a paycut to resign and the Spurs owe him after his last ty contract.

    Secondarily 12.5m should be an easy contract to move in 2018-2020 summers anytime Spurs wanna make moves.

    Welcome back Patty Mills. 2014 champion.

    This is really the best thing about the deal. If you think it through, we are buying him for next year and a potential asset next offseason. Much better than getting locked into an unmovable contract w/ someone like George Hill

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    Patty Mills? When PG was available? PATFO lose by doing nothing.
    Uh, it wasn't like they could just sign PG like they did Patty.

    Indy was apparently very picky in terms of what they wanted.

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    Boiled down, this is my take: Spurs either needed a solid pg upgrade or needed to hand keys to Murray and spend elsewhere.

    Mills provides neither. He's excess that ultimately moves no needle when the needle needs to be moved.

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    Good deal for best backup PG in league. Will be great backup to Dejounte

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    Uh, it wasn't like they could just sign PG like they did Patty.

    Indy was apparently very picky in terms of what they wanted.
    Have to disagree there

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    Boiled down, this is my take: Spurs either needed a solid pg upgrade or needed to hand keys to Murray and spend elsewhere.

    Mills provides neither. He's excess that ultimately moves no needle when the needle needs to be moved.
    I feel this is them handing the keys to Murray but if Mills starts day one then I'll like this way less.

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    Good deal for best backup PG in league. Will be great backup to Dejounte
    You're forgetting somebody in the equation, my

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    Boiled down, this is my take: Spurs either needed a solid pg upgrade or needed to hand keys to Murray and spend elsewhere.

    Mills provides neither. He's excess that ultimately moves no needle when the needle needs to be moved.
    Murray will still start imo. I don't think Mills was signed to be the starting PG. He was signed to be the 10+ PPG spark plug off the bench that hes always been.

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    You're forgetting somebody in the equation, my
    Exactly. Where the does this leave TP? You know he isn't going quietly. Are the Spurs really going to pay him loyalty contracts to be the 3rd string PG? Or are they not sold on Murray? And White? I'm confused.

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    He got 6th man money, I think Eric Gordon got around the same deal last year. Contract is pretty tradeable as well.

    The contract is only terrible if they re-up Porky for stupid money next summer or they make Patty the starting PG of the future. Doubtful it's the latter but you never know about the former.

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    Murray will still start imo. I don't think Mills was signed to be the starting PG. He was signed to be the 10+ PPG spark plug off the bench that hes always been.
    We will see. Even in that role, it's just a regular season minutes guy type deal. No matter his role, he's too one dimensional and too bad on defense to be playable.

    If the Spurs were top heavy enough for that not to matter than it would be literally perfect; but they are not. Mills getting playoff minutes in any role vs any team that matters is a proven detriment.

    I really like Mills too. His new deal is on the surface a great value. He's been a true Spur and great teammate. But it's just wasted money IMO and Spurs are still without a PG (even though I want Murray to start now) that can get the team into sets.

    Spurs have LMA who doesn't want to be here, no PG that has proven they can start and now MORE money tied up in the same backcourt that once TP went down showed they can't really do anything without Kawhi carrying a MASSIVE load.

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    100 year old Manu will still be a better point guard that prime Mills. Saw it in the POs.

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    It's about relative value too. I would much rather have Teague at 20M than Mills at 12. Yes, one is a good "value" but one is clearly more of an upgrade from a starting PG perspective.

    There is no reason to run back Mills, even if you are planning to trot Murray out there. The backcourt was simply not good enough last year and now it's more expensive and no better.

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    what the frickety ?!!! damn was hoping he was out
    And you replace him with who? Tony is coming off surgery, and Chris Paul is not available anymore.

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    He got 6th man money, I think Eric Gordon got around the same deal last year. Contract is pretty tradeable as well.

    The contract is only terrible if they re-up Porky for stupid money next summer or they make Patty the starting PG of the future. Doubtful it's the latter but you never know about the former.
    he's no 6th man. Eric Gordon played over 31 minutes a game in different lineups and roles, that's a 6th man

    Patty is just an overpaid backup point guard who shot 22% from 3 against Golden State

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    That's a ing lot of money locked up in the point guard spot, and those short-assed guys are still fodder to the best point guards in the league.
    Awful feeling....

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    And you replace him with who? Tony is coming off surgery, and Chris Paul is not available anymore.
    Just because there is no viable replacement doesn't mean you should bring back the thing that did not work for more money IMO.

    That's like saying you bring back a wife that cheats on you because you don't think you can find another wife.

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    Don't forget Tony is still coming back better than ever so he can get his next payday, people!

    4 PGs. Tons of cash tied up between them all. Only one looks to have any promise in the future (White is still an unknown).

    How exciting!

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    he's no 6th man. Eric Gordon played over 31 minutes a game in different lineups and roles, that's a 6th man

    Patty is just an overpaid backup point guard who shot 22% from 3 against Golden State
    It's not just GS he struggles against either. If that were the case, it would be totally fine. But Mills has to be assisted on damn near all of his points and does not have the size Gordon does on defense either (despite Mills always putting in supreme effort - no knock there)

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    we're ed. I guess our free agency will consist of players in their 30s past their primes looking for 1 last pay day. Which is the norm. Someone doesn't know what the they're doing..

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    Wasting Kawhi's prime, it's a tragedy

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    we're ed. I guess our free agency will consist of players in their 30s past their primes looking for 1 last pay day. Which is the norm
    You know Tony will be back looking for his next payday too. , Manu is probably coming back for his this summer too.

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    I pity the fool who signs Patty Mills.

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