I've posted it before but Festus had an injury and surgical operation that a lot of media types fear is career ending.
He wants to play again, but getting a surgery involving cadaver part transplants meant long recovery time.
He might never play again or be cleared for awhile.
Anything over the unguaranteed minimum would be reckless.
Indeed they can get rid of Tony (though another team taking Tony to stretch him would make zero sense) to make room for whomever. I was just replying to Robz' post, which implied that Mills and Simmons or Green prevented the Spurs from having $30 Million in cap space.
Part of me hope he returns to Utah, I want the West to be as loaded as possible to make it more difficult for GSW.
I get what you're saying, but to be fair Zipper really was at peak effectiveness when we had a 2011 Tony Parker who could just endlessly run around + had talent to probe and find the mismatch. That TP left us after the 2014 le run. Sure you can find any fool to run around a lot, but you really need someone with elite decision making ability too, which is why Mills is a poor subs ute.
The offense has shifted to Kawhi, and, for now anyway, he's most effective as a one on one player. I think Pop is just playing to the compe ive advantage, even if it's not always aesthetically pleasing.
The problem with all this talent in the West is that none of them are actually joining forcesspreading the talent out across teams is not going to do anything against the Warriors..teams like Houston needed a guy like Millsap to complete their team, rather than going to Denver and forming a good, but not great team..
The offense isn't just aesthetically displeasing. It's bad. It's a prime reason why no one can get going for long stretches. Just because Kawhi is a better iso guy doesn't mean you break an offense for that. You need to put him in positions where a) it's even easier to iso and b) the defense has to make a quick and predictable decision on whether to help. This is even more important if Murray is going to start.
Really it's just going to make the Finals looks like the Keystone Cops coming from the East, if anything.The problem with all this talent in the West is that none of them are actually joining forces
Just saying. Several teams say they are looking for youth. Up against the cap, they could trade a $15M vet who doesn't fit their plans. I think Parker would retire - so my thought was that they could not only stretch him, but claim a Disabled Player exception, and have that in addition to opening up the $10M from the stretch. That's not full value, but it would also mean they don't have to cough up a pick to dump their guy.
Not likely, but no trades ever are. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
It's not Hill or Mills and Simmons. Hill would have required renouncing Gasol (assume Parker not stretched) and possibly having to move Green. Also, would have meant room exception instead of larger MLE
Really, look at the following page: http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players...73&season=2016
If we can get Monroe for Aldridge, we are getting a better player. In particular, a much better rebounder (3.1 rbds/40 better) , who's TS% is 4% higher! (ie for being inefficient, 3% less than average, to 1% above average). We also get rid of a cancerous pussy wuss-boy who has not bought in to winning... I'll take that.
I guess it really does come down to whether Murray is starting at this point given how the offseason has gone. They really need someone who can credibly make the reads on motion/zip like Tony could.
For as great as Leonard is, he's not a guy yet that's setting others up on a consistent basis. And again, it's not just about having the stamina to run around multiple screens, etc., the person has to be an elite decision making on the catch.
Most are too narrow minded to think outside the box. I bet their only thought when they see this is "ew, Faried".
Fits with trying to remain compe ive now but also building for the future. Sure, current 2nd round ceiling would be less likely, but would remain. More importantly, they'd come out of it with what you said.
But then that team will be on the hook for Tony's salary for two more years. Anyone who is willing to absorbs Parker's contract into cap space or a TE isn't likely to want to use future flexibility on Tony's deal any more than SA seems willing to.
This isn't an innovative take. It's been an idea since last year (though not the Denver part specifically, I guess). Most on ST would trade LMA for a bag of chips; getting Chriss would have been a steal. I like LMA a lot more than most, but I would have done something similar to the PHX trade before the Mills deal came out. As it is, I'm not sure the Spurs have any window at all if they do this but take on Faried. They lose in the second round without LMA; they might have even lost in the first if Pau and Faried where the front court against Gasol, Randolph and Green.
Most are too narrow minded to think outside the box. I bet their only thought when they see this is "ew, Faried".
Fits with trying to remain compe ive now but also building for the future. Sure, current 2nd round ceiling would be less likely, but would remain. More importantly, they'd come out of it with what you said.
Ignoring all that, though, your disposition has been weird lately. You keep trying to jab at posters for not wanting to "think outside the box", while also trying to claim victory when PAFTO makes the straightforward move of re-upping Mills. Are we supposed to be dreamers or pessimists in order to avoid your judgment?
Guess I'm misinformed. Been operating under the assumption their capholds were more than they were.
Maybe, or you might have been thinking we were factoring in Mills' and Simmons' cap holds in the various scenarios.
just wish there was some activity soon. it will be nice to read about what actually happens versus all the ST multiverse scenarios that will never come to fruition.
sold?
Did the ring with the Spurs?? Ole Golden 1.... I'd take him back..
Yup. On the cheap? Yes. Old boy looking for that loot? Go somewhere else, but I would have a smile on my face, should he join and hopefully last at least 60 games and be healthy for the playoffs.
Bro... And dammit, I like you a lot jermaine!
If I was in SA, you'd probably be the 1st person I contact.
"Hey, uh... you don't know me, but we Spurs fans and talk on Spurstalk and um... me and my girl wanna go hang for a game. You down?"
Innovative or not, it's a good idea. You just don't like the source. Presuming relative health for everyone, they lose in the 2nd round with Aldridge. They probably lose in the 1st if they do this, but it would be well worth it to get their PF of the future and a future 1st.
Two different things. I don't have to like the path they're headed down to know it would be the path. If it was so "straightforward", then why did so many argue me all season that Mills was a goner and that he'd get significantly more than he did? I never mind the criticism when it's warranted, but just make sure to be consistent.
What you call judgemental, I call being a realist. Our debate a few days ago about Millsap/Hill vs Aldridge/Green, I can see your side of it. What I can't see, is this idea that this team is a contender or will be able to become one again in '18. When the dust settles from this off season, not only are they not going to have as much cap space as many seem to think, but more importantly the only potential available game changer to spend it on (Cousins), they won't touch with a ten foot pool.
Rumor a few days ago on a Greek Panathanaikos fan blog? alleged that Splitter was a target for Panathanaikos. They could pay him more than the minimum I'm sure.
Last edited by objective; 07-03-2017 at 03:49 PM. Reason: Clarifying Splitter as subject
I am 99% sure, he'll be back.
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