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^Well, that scenario is dead. Hanga to Barcelona for much more than the minimum.
I definitely am looking forward to seeing Hanga on the team. Does it make sense to have both Hanga and Simmons on the team or does that just make it too crowded at SG?
I would prefer though signing Dedmon with Hanga rather than just Simmons.
^Well, that scenario is dead. Hanga to Barcelona for much more than the minimum.
Hanga just agreed to a deal overseas. He aint coming
We can finally close the book on that pick...
Damn. I would much rather have Hanga at the min than Simmons at 9M.
No I believe he still has an easy Opt Out in his contract if he want's to come to the Spurs...We Can All Pray..........
Why don't the spurs just trade away their picks instead of wasting them on overseas garbage that never comes over?
Maybe he's waiting for Ginobili to retire.
No. The recent trend is to draft tweener guards from the USA.
It seems to me that Simmons has overplayed his hand. Looking at who is still available as unrestricted free agents: KCP, Affalo, etc. Teams with significant cap space and need for a guard would likely go the unrestricted route for players that are more proven. The Spurs need to reduce their offer to him if he doesn't come back with a sheet. His delay likely cost the Spurs a chance to sign Hanga this year. You can't fault the guy for wanting to get paid, but if it is true that he was offered 9 million per for 3 or 4 years and rejected it then there are consequences. There have been consequences for the Spurs. Now there should be for Simmons.
Consequences? You say that like this is some adversarial situation between the front office and Simmons. The FO has always put the onus on players like this that are restricted to go get an offer and then bring it back to SA for matching, consideration, etc.
He hasn't cost them Hanga. Market just ain't there for a big payday for him.
However, I do not recall the FO putting out a figure like the $9 million per year that they would be willing to pay. It sounds like they made an offer that was rejected. So, yes, in that respect there is an adversarial situation. Putting that number out there seems to have put a damper on offers that Simmons is receiving so that, too, can be considered adversarial. So, if the Spurs are just waiting for an offer to come in so they can match and the $9 million number was not floated by anyone in the organization then I would agree with you. Since there have been no other pre-signing leaks except for Simmons then I think this is an example of the Spurs playing a little hardball.
So as of yesterday, July 10th the following teams have cap room left:
Atlanta 18 million. Their GM said they are in the market for a 3rd PG and 3 bigs.
Brooklyn 17 million. Rumored to be going after KCP. That will take almost all of it.
Lakers 17 million. Not signing multi year deals.
76ers 17 million. Not signing multi year deals.
Suns 11 million. Can get it up to 23 million by renouncing Alex Len
Sactown 8 million.
Orlando 8 million.
Denver 2 million.
The Suns seem to be the team that is best in a position to offer Simmons a deal the Spurs wouldn't match. By my count they currently have 8 wings under contract. Doesn't seem to be a position of need. I predict that Simmons signs for something in the 5 to 6 million range with the Spurs.
Wasn't he already offered 9 million by us?
That was a rumor... at this point no one knows.
He has a QO on the table.
Seriously been thinking how long they gonna go on for this. But i predicted it'd be awhile. He probably knows he's a few teams plan D and he's gonna w8.
Not sure if I want resolution more with Manu or Simmons
This turned out to be the Summer of Simmons after all. Obviously the Spurs want him or they would have moved on, but the market for him is not what anyone thought it would be. Guys seriously got screwed by the cap not going up as predicted and the bad contracts from last summer. That's too bad.
I have wondered if he would bet on himself and just sign for one year with a PO to test the market next season again. It's tough to say.
Should have been cap smoothing... Durant would have never been able to go to the Warriors, and guys like Allen Crabbe, Evan Turner, Ezeli, Mozgov, Deng, Tyler Johnson etc would have never gotten those contracts... Players Union fail tbh Now all that money is gone and GM's are smarter or at least appear to be.
Wonder how long Simmons camp draws this out. Spurs probably haven't offered anything yet. Just waiting to see what the market is like and what the #'s are. Might get him cheaper than originally thought.
IIRC offer sheets have to be a minimum of two seasons without an option, so a team could do a 2+1 but not a 1+1. The Lakers and 76er's are out in that case and that probably leaves the Hawks and the Suns. The Hawks probably make the most since but they still have some roster needs and they are reportedly going after Dedmon too.
Being an RFA is this market is rough, next year might be brutal considering the cap may only increase by a million and most teams will be over the cap Forbes, Anderson, and Bertans may be out of luck even if all have solid seasons.
I have a feeling an announcement on Simmons will come soon. Most of the dust has settled now in FA. Time to or get off the pot.
Are those real tweet from Donald Trump?
If it was, he obviously didn't accept it. So since it looks like he isn't going to be able to bring an offer sheet to the table his price goes down. Sometimes you bet on yourself and win and sometimes you lose. If you can call a multimillion dollar contract losing...
RC and Chip are always in their seats. But Pop and Becky appear and disappear.
Meanwhile, the Spurs SL team is rolling. A lot of spirit on the team among all members (vs Portland) and it looks real.
He'll be waiting for a long time.
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