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    The Gasol contract isn't horrible, the Patty Mills one is. Not many players out there with BBall IQ and passing ability that Pau has. Just hope he has a better season than last year.

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    Usual suspects BillMC and pussy Dex bending over, spreading their cheeks, and blindly agreeing with everything the front office does.
    Brah you tripping. You have officially gone to the other side. RIP.

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    PATFO is out of control.

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    Because we don't know if this is the final move...

    What if Gasol is the starting center and LMA is moved??

    Let's not get worked up over something you don't really know all the details about..
    We'll see. This has been said about questionable moves in the past. "oh...it's CIA Pop...just wait and see". But for the most part, they just end up being poor decisions.

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    Because we don't know if this is the final move...

    What if Gasol is the starting center and LMA is moved??

    Let's not get worked up over something you don't really know all the details about..
    and I can't come up with any scenario where locking up Gasol to 3 years and $48,000,000 makes sense. Unless Gasol has some kind of crazy breakout year.
    I mean...what team is going to look at that contract and think it'd be beneficial to take it on?

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    Because we don't know if this is the final move...

    What if Gasol is the starting center and LMA is moved??

    Let's not get worked up over something you don't really know all the details about..
    Then it's still a stupid move to tie up $16 million of 2018-19 capspace when the team will be trying to rebuild around Kawhi. At least overpay for someone with a future if you're going to overpay.

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    We'll see. This has been said about questionable moves in the past. "oh...it's CIA Pop...just wait and see". But for the most part, they just end up being poor decisions.
    It very well could be....it could be a bad deal.

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    and I can't come up with any scenario where locking up Gasol to 3 years and $48,000,000 makes sense. Unless Gasol has some kind of crazy breakout year.
    I mean...what team is going to look at that contract and think it'd be beneficial to take it on?

    It's not 3yr/48M...48M is not the guaranteed $$.

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    Then it's still a stupid move to tie up $16 million of 2018-19 capspace when the team will be trying to rebuild around Kawhi. At least overpay for someone with a future if you're going to overpay.
    Ok but what if LMA is moved...

    What if the craziness happens and they get Kyrie? Or something else?

    The narrative obviously changed before and it could again..just wait awhile and we will ALL know what the roster will look like lol

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    Brah you tripping. You have officially gone to the other side. RIP.
    Come on, bro. You don't really believe this is a good deal do you?

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl
    LMFAO. What a piece of . We aren't the Lakers, this franchise is ed if Kawhi leaves. It'll probably last a couple of years before it has to move due to low attendance.

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    Jeff McDonald needs to Thelma and Louise it with Don Harris.

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    "Uh, yeah Kawhi, we know you're entering your prime and have MVP-caliber talent, but we're going to surround you with mediocre-to-subpar talent on atrocious contracts because we've already won 5 championships and its ok to give someone else a turn"

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl
    Should get fired for this tweet tbh...

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl
    Spurstalk posters with tweeter should go bananas on this guy.

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    Come on, bro. You don't really believe this is a good deal do you?
    It's not a bad deal. Bigs get paid more. And he's not a beta. 16 mil dot s nothing to what he brings to the table. And don't talk to top quality posters.

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    It's not a bad deal. Bigs get paid more. And he's not a beta. 16 mil dot s nothing to what he brings to the table. And don't talk to top quality posters.

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    Manu's article made me realize something. This is what Manu wrote in the article where he "announced" that he's coming back:



    Current Spurs management, the team leaders, the culture, etc... have been around for over 20 years. In that time, they've won 5 championships, posted consistent 50+ win seasons, and several 60+ win seasons. They've been in the playoffs every one of those years, and gone deep in several. At a certain time, they have to start thinking that they've done everything that they're going to do, and the compe ive edge that got them that success inevitably starts to dull. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing -- it's inevitable because they're human.

    What does this mean, as applied to the roster? There's a greater priority on what's worked in the past - both in terms of emphasis on "culture" and the type of personnel cultivated: PATFO keeps awarding culture contracts (Patty) or bringing in Spurs-type players (Pau). I understand that thinking: go with what brought you your success. But the problem is it's a wrong approach - think of the old adage "victory can defeat someone."

    The Spurs were once known as an organization that innovated - first with drafting foreign personnel, then with cultivating a culture of selflessness (Tim/Tony/Manu), then with developing the "beautiful game." What's so problematic about these contracts are not the contracts in and of themselves (although they're horrific); rather, it's that they signal that the organization is becoming stagnant.

    They signal that the organization is content to "run it back" despite the personnel clearly being orders of magnitude below the one team that counts (GSW). They also signal that the organization is stopping/has stopped innovating -- they're just using the same approach over and over again now. And the problem is that approach won't work; they need to innovate again. And this is exactly what worries me the most -- after 20+ years of success, I don't see the motivation in Pop & Co. to innovate. I don't blame them per se -- they're human. But you can get the sense that they should have started incorporating new blood in the organization post 2014. But they didn't and became stagnant.

    Victory defeated them.

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    Ok but what if LMA is moved...

    What if the craziness happens and they get Kyrie? Or something else?

    The narrative obviously changed before and it could again..just wait awhile and we will ALL know what the roster will look like lol
    If they get Kyrie then it means they can't go after a competent big next summer because they gave Gasol $16 million.

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl


    Amazing. Like the media praising and always afraid to question one of those South American Caudillos it seems. SA TV and print Media is just spineless and pathetic.

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    It's not a bad deal. Bigs get paid more. And he's not a beta. 16 mil dot s nothing to what he brings to the table. And don't talk to top quality posters.
    Not in 2017.

    Look at what the Warriors/Celtics/Rockets are spending on centers.

    But at this point only theory that fits is that they have a wink wink agreement with LeBron or something crazy like that.

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    If they get Kyrie then it means they can't go after a competent big next summer because they gave Gasol $16 million.

    Or maybe they could?? We don't know lol.

    Not even 4 days ago SpursTalk was losing their saying NOBODY wants to play here or respects the Spurs etc...

    Now look where we are today....

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    It's not 3yr/48M...48M is not the guaranteed $$.
    I know. But I still don't get the opting out of 1/16 for 2/16 and a third partial.

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    Let someone else have a turn?

    :rofl
    Jeff McDonald. Worst "journalist" in the world. "Let someone else have a turn" in which case just contract the Spurs right out of the NBA with that mentality. I hope he says the same thing when Kawhi leaves. "Kawhi gave us six years as a Spurs, let someone else have a turn"


    ing idiot.

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