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    I think he really wants to be in SA, and that "unwilling to commit" was more of a message to other teams that are trying to trade for him.

    Media seem to be trying to send him everywhere else but SA per par.
    RealGM says he would be willing to sign long-term.

    https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...utual-Interest

    Parker just can't not be part of the package.

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    Get a deal done.

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    I wonder what our initial offer was. And if this news just broke about kyrie's willingness to commit, Does it change the spurs' offer?

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    Let's get this train rolling again! Pages on pages to comes.

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    This article cherry-picks stuff from the original article to make it seem like Irving/Spurs is big news. The orig Woj article merely mentions Spurs as an example of a trade that could not happen-even calls out the Spurs lack of assets that are attractive to the Cavs.

    The Woj article does however state that Irving was open to extension with Spurs if traded- That's news to me.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-irving-trades

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    This article cherry-picks stuff from the original article to make it seem like Irving/Spurs is big news. The orig Woj article merely mentions Spurs as an example of a trade that could not happen-even calls out the Spurs lack of assets that are attractive to the Cavs.

    The Woj article does however state that Irving was open to extension with Spurs if traded- That's news to me.

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-irving-trades
    Yes, but what does this mean. He can't sign an extension until next year, right? So he could get traded here and not like it or Pop could retire and he could want to go somewhere else and there is nothing other than a promise he can just as easily walk away from. It's a risk for any team that trades for him, but if we just give up veterans and a pick, probably a low risk for us. If another team gives up a young star, then that is risky.

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    The whole premise that trading Kyrie for vets and picks isn't attractive because Lebron might leave is just straight dumb. Let's play this ridiculous game and assume two scenarios:

    1. Kyrie stays because he's young and they can't get a young stud in return but Lebron leaves in free agency.
    2. The Cavs land Andrew Wiggins for Kyrie and Lebron leaves.

    The problem the Cavs have is that neither scenario will put a team on the court that will compete for a championship. No matter what young player is on that team in the event Lebron leaves FOR NOTHING in return the Cavs will once again be irrelevant. The only two options the Cavs have are these:

    1. Trade Kyrie for great vets and picks and ignore the fact Lebron may leave this summer.
    2. Trade Lebron now(assuming there isn't a no trade clause) and commit to Kyrie.

    This whole situation is purely Lebron's fault. What a poorly run organization. Lebron is the most valuable asset in the league and they can turn him into multiple pieces if the Cavs want to rebuild. Lebron is the Brett Favre of the NBA. Cavs fans are some unlucky fans. Spurs fans are so lucky to have had David Robinson, Tim Duncan, and now Kawhi. These guys have never and would never hold the franchise hostage, Orlando being the closest call.

    How is Lebron getting through this without the media straight dumping on him?

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    The Cavs motivation for the trade shouldn't change if LeBron is leaving...

    They initially wanted veteran player(s), young asset and pick(s).

    Those type of assets in the trade help Cavs THIS year and the future..but if I'm the Cavs I focus on getting better NOW and not so much on the future.

    LeBron holds the keys to the castle and if he leaves the Cavs are ed regardless whatever they get in return

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    they should trade LeBron and keep Kyrie.

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    Irving is a great player but the Knicks would be stupid as f**k to trade Kristaps Porzingis for him to the Cavs. He's 22 with plenty of upside and they just need to surround him with talent.

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    Irving is a great player but the Knicks would be stupid as f**k to trade Kristaps Porzingis for him to the Cavs. He's 22 with plenty of upside and they just need to surround him with talent.
    The Knicks have been stupid as f**k for at least 15 years now and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

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    The Knicks have been stupid as f**k for at least 15 years now and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.
    TBH

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    Yeah I know but they can attempt to put an end to the stupidity for a change. If Spurs fail to acquire Kyrie Irving via trade, the Knicks stupidity might be the reason. No way do the Cavs say no to KP. If this trade happens and Noah gets shipped to Cleveland with KP now that would be a good laugh.

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    Get it done. Sell them Whataburger stock

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    At this point I would trade lebron. He's throwing everyone under the bus and holding the cabs hostage. He may have no trade clause, but if not, I would do it. I

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    He has a no trade clause and he already said he isnt waiving it. LeBron aint going anywhere until he decides

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    So Kyrie wants to come here and would be willing to sign a long-term deal but the Spurs have no one outside of Kawhi that Cleveland wants. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

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    RC just do it mfer


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    Let's get this train rolling again! Pages on pages to comes.

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    So Kyrie wants to come here and would be willing to sign a long-term deal but the Spurs have no one outside of Kawhi that Cleveland wants. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
    So nothing has changed.

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    Stupid premise. Any trade that would land Kyrie would undoubtedly have to include Aldridge.

    Kawhi is off the table, and does anybody else really think a broken Parker, regressing Green, or overpaid Gasol is going to net anything of value?

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    RC just do it mfer

    RC isn't the one saying no. Cavs don't want to trade their second best player for a rental of LMA, Green, and filler...especially if they aren't sure if Lebron will even be sticking around.

    Reports are that they want a "Melo type deal" for it, and the Spurs don't have anything close to making that happen.

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    I don't see why the cavs are acting as if they have the leverage here, who's going to trade a young star for kyrie if he's not willing to commit long term?

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