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We're both close enough. BS is BS.
Typical ignorance from you. I'm not even surprised you don't know who John Pershing is.
We're both close enough. BS is BS.
are all you alt-rights really this ing re ed? It says "the march" stretched several blocks, not "the crowd". It wouldn't be much of a ing march if they only walked half a block. Use your goddamn brain for once in your life.
So we're all alt-right now. Good goy!
Evergreen
Are you not?
What are you?
You certainly displayed the reading comprehension of one.
It's not BS. My perception of history is that he buried them with pig heads, and sometimes even put slices of bologna over their eyes.
Who are you to say otherwise. Don't be a historist
Edit: , historist is already a thing.
Don't be a historiphobe.
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Not entirely sure what you are getting at here.
Murder is generally wrong in most cir stances, with self-defense being an obvious exception.
He didn't even do that.
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In a footnote, the editor of the 2013 edition, John T. Greenwood, cited a letter about the incident from Maj. Gen. J. Franklin Bell, the commander of the Philippines Division, to Pershing: "Of course there is nothing to be done, but I understand it has long been a custom to bury (insurgents) with pigs when they kill Americans. I think this a good plan, for if anything will discourage the (insurgents) it is the prospect of going to instead of to heaven. You can rely on me to stand by you in maintaining this custom. It is the only possible thing we can do to discourage crazy fanatics."
While these writings do provide strong evidence that United States forces used pigs as a tactic against Muslim insurgents, there is no evidence that Pershing himself committed these acts.
Experts have been skeptical the practice was widespread or directly authorized or ordered by Pershing.
"This story is a fabrication and has long been discredited," said Brian McAllister Linn, a Texas A&M University historian and author of Guardians of Empire: The U.S. Army and the Pacific, 1902-1940. "I am amazed it is still making the rounds."
Christopher Einolf, a professor at DePaul University and author of America in the Philippines, 1899-1902: The First Torture Scandal, added that he trusted the conclusion of the late military historian Frank E. Vandiver, who told About.com in 2003 that "I never found any indication that it was true in extensive research on his Moro experiences. This kind of thing would have run completely against his character."
Indeed, other historians noted that Pershing pursued a less brutal approach to "pacifying" the rebels in the southern Philippines than Leonard Wood, one of his predecessors.
"He did a lot of what we would call ‘winning hearts and minds’ and embraced reforms which helped end their resistance," said Lance Janda, a military historian at Cameron University. "He fought too, but only when he had to, and only against tribes or bands that just wouldn’t negotiate with him. He wasn’t solely committed to fighting as people like Trump who tell the pig blood story imply."
Another wrinkle: Historians said the premise that the rebels would have been motivated by a fear of pigs is not as certain as Trump suggests. It’s unclear how religiously observant the insurgents were and whether such a policy would have made a difference in their actions.
"The Moros were fighting for a lot of reasons, not just because they were Muslims," Janda said. "This is another fact that gets lost in many modern discussions of terrorism."
Trump said that Pershing stopped "radical Islamic terror" for 35 years. Of the eight historians we checked with the first time we heard Trump speak about Pershing, all were at least skeptical that the specific tales of Pershing actually took place, and some expressed disbelief even more forcefully than that.
But more critically, the historians took issue with Trump’s suggestion that the tactic -- if it was even used at all -- actually worked to end tensions, noting that unrest persisted for years. Trump’s claim rates Pants on Fire.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-about-gen-pe/
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Pershing not only didn't do that, there is little indication that the tactic worked. -RG
Lefties, on this board, sometime this week (unsure and too lazy to check, but it was in the Texas anti-abortion thread), said they believe in killing babies once outside the womb if they are defective w/ Downs or other birth defects. Pretty ing Nazish to the core, and pro-murder, trolling Chris or not, which "I truly think they believe what they posted".
You are tagging the murderer to the poor white trash heads. I'm tagging the support of murder to those heads. You're hardcore Left and defend your partisanship, but seem anti-murder. So the question is, are you ok with babies being murdered, actual life being murdered outside the womb, like your party mates here seem to? If you are ok with murder, then why would you be upset that Heather was murdered?
He took two days to get the facts.
"hard core left" Not really. I am a moderate, with libertarian tendencies. Left of center by most accounts, sure.Lefties, on this board, sometime this week (unsure and too lazy to check, but it was in the Texas anti-abortion thread), said they believe in killing babies once outside the womb if they are defective w/ Downs or other birth defects. Pretty ing Nazish to the core, and pro-murder, trolling Chris or not, which "I truly think they believe what they posted".
You are tagging the murderer to the poor white trash heads. I'm tagging the support of murder to those heads. You're hardcore Left and defend your partisanship, but seem anti-murder. So the question is, are you ok with babies being murdered, actual life being murdered outside the womb, like your party mates here seem to? If you are ok with murder, then why would you be upset that Heather was murdered?
As for what someone else said, or why, I can't comment.
I would have to take things on a case-by-case basis, with as much information as possible.
Should some people be allowed to die in some cir stances? I can imagine a few, such as Terry Shaivo, who had no quality of life, and arguably no awareness or consciousness.
Do you think that murder is always wrong? Surely there are some cir stances where you would kill. How do you decide?
Next-Level Gaming: The New ‘Call Of Duty’ Will Penalize Players For Shooting Nazis Who Are Actually Very Fine People
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If he had said the same thing after Charlottesville, the news cycle would have already moved on by now.God Bless our POTUS
A man's man.
<sigh>
Thank you Scott!
TO HER friends, it seemed as if Heather Heyer was always sounding off about something. Why was the world so unfair? Why did one particular kid get bullied on the school bus? Why could her gay friends not get married? Why did Alfred Wilson, her lovely division manager at Miller Law, who was college-educated and hipster-elegant, get followed when he went to the store, just because he was black? Why did some friends have such bad luck that they had to crash with her for months because they had nowhere to go? She was happy to let them. But she wondered, and she complained. If you’re not outraged, she posted, you’re not paying attention.
She shed tears about it, too. A Facebook post or a news item would set her off at the computer, even at work. She cried about cruelty and unfairness and racist insults, and posted a link to a video en led: “If You’re Scared of Islam, Meet a Muslim”. She was so upset about a policeman in Fort Worth, Texas, dragging a black woman along the ground, that she called for him to be fired. The election of Donald Trump was the worst; it made her desperate about her country. She had posted Bernie Sanders’s picture on her Facebook page, hoping.
It wasn’t that she was sad by nature. She was bubbly, funny, strong-minded and, at 32, happy with herself, even if she put on weight too easily (cigarettes helped with that), and even if her hair had too much natural curl (she’d found products that really worked to sort the hair out, until some of her profile pix drew “Wow!” and “Saaaaaamokin!”). Purple was her colour, a nice strong statement: purple clothes whenever possible, and Violet as the obvious name for her sweet little chocolate chihuahua, all big ears and big dark eyes looking wistfully into hers. Rather than sad, she was tender-hearted. She shed tears for happiness too, so that when she had been five years at Miller Law, and Larry Miller himself took her to lunch, gave her a bonus and told her she was very important to them, like family, she could only manage to sob how good it was, and give him a hug.
Hers was a tough job in the bankruptcy division: entering all the data about each case, taking in the do ents and especially liaising with the clients, so they didn’t feel daunted by the process. She knew nothing about law when she left high school, but Mr Wilson told her she was exactly what they needed, a “people person” to be on the front line with a reassuring smile. Her other job, which she kept going, was waitressing at Caturra on The Corner, right by the main grounds of the University of Virginia: a chic place if you had the quinoa-salmon combo, less so if you ordered the Caturra Mess, which was a pile of potatoes, ham and cheese with two eggs over easy and hollandaise. Online comments praised the friendly service; she was outraged that nobody tipped any restaurant staff enough.
At Miller Law (“We help you live your life”) she had to deal with clients who just couldn’t make ends meet, were being evicted, or were ill: like Steve, who had Parkinson’s and felt swamped with bills for his medication; or Felicia, with six children, MS and nothing to pay the bills. She would hold their hand if they got emotional, tell them it was going to be OK. Then she would take them through the paperwork and remind them to send in their do ents on time. Everything had to be done exactly right. She went to night classes, on top of everything else, to try to get a better understanding of it all. It made her sleep late some mornings, but Mr Wilson kindly adjusted his schedule to fit in with hers.
If only the world could be put so straight. Like the racism in Charlottesville, which broke out whenever people talked about moving the statue of Robert E. Lee out of Emancipation Park, as they called it now, and putting it somewhere else. (Someone had painted “Black Lives Matter” on the base of it, and you could still read it two years later, though the city had tried hard to scrub it off.) She had been born and raised in Ruckersville, north of town in the hills, which was 85% white and had more rural at udes. But Charlottesville was 19% black, and still one of her boyfriends had told her he didn’t like her being so friendly with Mr Wilson (she dropped that one fast); and still some folk gasped in horror at the mere thought of moving the statue. And then the white racists came storming in from all over to defend it.
How could they think that?
She was not an activist herself; there wasn’t much time to be. She wouldn’t have dreamed of, say, marching with Antifa behind a banner reading “The Only Good Fascist is a Dead Fascist”. She didn’t march with Black Lives Matter, either, or wave LGBTQ flags, though she supported them all. Her way was to stand up loudly for them, and to ask anyone who disagreed why they believed that? And how could they think it? But the sheer size of the white nationalist rally planned for August 12th made her feel, for the first time ever, that she really had to get out in the street. She and her friends could try to spread a different message, that Charlottesville was a place of love. Suddenly, she had to do more than just argue. More than just cry.
https://www.economist.com/news/obitu...ituary-heather
It's you right?
Trump Comments on Race Open Breach With C.E.O.s, Military and G.O.P.
President Trump found himself increasingly isolated in a racial crisis of his own making on Wednesday,
abandoned by the nation’s top business executives,
contradicted by military leaders and
shunned by Republicans outraged
by his defense of white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville, Va.
The breach with the business community was the most striking. ans of American industry and finance revolted against a man they had seen as one of their own, concluding Wednesday morning they could no longer serve on two of Mr. Trump’s advisory panels.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/1...jews-ceos.html
Repugs like McConnell and Ryan made pro forma/CYA "protestations", dog-whistling to their reliable, racist base that they weren't really sincere any more than Trash was.
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