Harvey

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I strongly urge this for others. Whoever is behind this account never has anything worth reading. IMO. I hate information bubbles and read things that I disagree with as a matter of habit, but at some point, a pointless troll is a pointless troll.

- "No sir. You couldn't drag me away."

- "Sgt. Al Powell" - "Die Hard"

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I literally just thought this minute about seriously using it for the first time.

Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!!!!!!!

[RandomGuy]

I literally just thought this minute about seriously using it for the first time.

I am much happier for not seeing it. A good mix of viewpoints is good, but at some point it gets to Cosmored levels of dumb. I don't have Cosmo on ignore, but quit trying to reason with that crazy a long time ago.

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I am much happier for not seeing it. A good mix of viewpoints is good, but at some point it gets to Cosmored levels of dumb. I don't have Cosmo on ignore, but quit trying to reason with that crazy a long time ago.

I'll just bet you are.

[RandomGuy]

Yeah, no on giving to Samaritan's purse.

Graham was, for a TV preacher, a guy who walked the walk. No prosperity gospel bull .

He's dead now though, and his organization is staffed by people influenced by that. I think that is why they suck at relief, just like Osteen. IMO.

[vy65]

Direct personal experience with flood recovery.

You cannot stay in a stinking, moldy house with no power, temperature in the 90's and a lot of humidity. It is entirely untenable as shelter. Given the number of homes that I saw underwater that will be a LOT of housing destroyed. Once the water goes down, you need massive amounts of labor to clear out the damage. Many, many elderly people will be physically unable to do this for themselves.

I have not spoken to anyone in the city yet, merely paid attention to news. Houston does/did have a 10% vacancy rate for multifamily apartments that can absorb a good part of the need.

The rest is simply an off-the-hip estimate. Simple math suggests a massive need for shelter. A very large number like 7,600,000 means you start with a big constant, and the other factor, the unknown variable, i.e. the % of people needing shelter, does not have to be very large to mean that your ending total to be very large.

Initial official estimates tend to, in my experience, understate the magnitude of need, simply due to lack of solid information on which to base such estimates.

Nvm. Didn't read all of this.

Your math is off. The Houston MSA area is approximately 6.4million, not 7.6. Estimates have up to 40,000 homes being affected by the flood -- not all of those will be uninhabitable. However, even assuming that they are, and assuming a home holds 4 people (yes, an assumption), that's 160,000 displaced people. That's half of your 350,000 estimate. And that assumes each and every one of those homes are ed.

A lot of the burbs got ed. The demagraphic out there is not the elderly -- it's middle aged folks who are capable of doing work. The bigger issue is the funding and labor pool that will be necessary to rebuild those homes (if they're rebuilt at all). But I'm in the city, and the hysterical mold-induced apocalypse picture you're painting is just not correct. At all.

[vy65]

(nods)

It does have some factors going for it, yes. In that Houston has a leg up on N.O. The parts that I worry about not coming back are exactly what you correctly named here.

[illmatic]

JJ Watts fund, he's already raised over $10 mill::

https://www.youcaring.com/victimsofh...eharvey-915053

[vy65]

Nvm. Didn't read all of this.

Your math is off. The Houston MSA area is approximately 6.4million, not 7.6. Estimates have up to 40,000 homes being affected by the flood -- not all of those will be uninhabitable. However, even assuming that they are, and assuming a home holds 4 people (yes, an assumption), that's 160,000 displaced people. That's half of your 350,000 estimate. And that assumes each and every one of those homes are ed.

A lot of the burbs got ed. The demagraphic out there is not the elderly -- it's middle aged folks who are capable of doing work. The bigger issue is the funding and labor pool that will be necessary to rebuild those homes (if they're rebuilt at all). But I'm in the city, and the hysterical mold-induced apocalypse picture you're painting is just not correct. At all.

And with the rate of construction -- I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the city can accommodate a very large percentage of displaced people into multifamily apartment housing throughout the city. The challenge is going to be funding, whether from FEMA/USFG or elsewhere, to subsidize people while they get back on their feet.

[Blake]

Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!!!!!!!

Oh, extra exclamation points. That'll crawl me

[Blake]

Graham was, for a TV preacher, a guy who walked the walk. No prosperity gospel bull .

He's dead now though, and his organization is staffed by people influenced by that. I think that is why they suck at relief, just like Osteen. IMO.

Franklin Graham is running the org. He's a huge piece of , imo.

I think Billy is still alive. .?

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Oh, extra exclamation points. That'll crawl me

You weren't supposed to be seeing me no more, daddy-O.

tee, hee.

[Blake]

You weren't supposed to be seeing me no more, daddy-O.

tee, hee.

I'm considering it still. I'm also lazy when it comes to changing settings here.

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I'm considering it still. I'm also lazy when it comes to changing settings here.

I'll take that as an olive branch, Blake.

[RandomGuy]

https://ghcf.org/hurricane-relief/

After receiving an overwhelming number of inquiries from citizens and companies who want to help, Mayor Sylvester Turner has established the Hurricane Harvey Relief Fund that will accept tax-deductible flood relief donations for victims affected by the recent floods.

40% of closed businesses never re-open. Of those that do, 25% fail within a year. Cash flow crunches are often fatal, so consider this as a free market boost, for those of you so inclined.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.globalgiving.org/project...y-relief-fund/

Summary
Hurricane Harvey has caused widespread, catastrophic flooding and damage in Texas and along the Gulf Coast. This fund will provide relief to survivors in the form of emergency supplies like food, water, and medicine in addition to longer-term recovery assistance to help residents recover and rebuild. All donations to this fund will exclusively support relief and recovery efforts from this storm.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.unitedwayhouston.org/flood/flood-donation/

UNITED WAY RELIEF FUND
We have launched the United Way Relief Fund to help meet storm-related needs and recovery in our community. 100% of your gift to the United Way Relief Fund goes to help our neighbors and our community recover from Hurricane Harvey. Thank you for your generosity.

an old standby

[RandomGuy]

https://www.homelesshouston.org/take-action/donate/

At the Coalition for the Homeless of Houston/Harris County,
we rely on the generosity of individuals like you
to help us coordinate community strategies
to prevent and end homelessness in the greater Houston area.

Probably one of the better ones at finding people housing solutions. Just my take, this may be a good "dark horse" way to give effectively.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.portlight.org/home.html

Portlight Strategies, Inc. is a 501(c)(3) organization, founded in 1997 to facilitate a variety of projects involving people with disabilities, including post-disaster relief work.

[RandomGuy]

Austin area links:

http://www.statesman.com/news/state-...iWchFPuVH4TkI/

[RandomGuy]

San Antonio area links:

https://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/...rricane-harvey

[RandomGuy]

Texas Tribune has the best list I have seen so far:

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/08...orts-how-help/

[RandomGuy]

More San Antonio links:

http://news4sanantonio.com/news/loca...-those-in-need

[RandomGuy]

Dallas Links:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/harv...exans-can-help

[RandomGuy]

Nvm. Didn't read all of this.

Your math is off. The Houston MSA area is approximately 6.4million, not 7.6. Estimates have up to 40,000 homes being affected by the flood -- not all of those will be uninhabitable. However, even assuming that they are, and assuming a home holds 4 people (yes, an assumption), that's 160,000 displaced people. That's half of your 350,000 estimate. And that assumes each and every one of those homes are ed.

A lot of the burbs got ed. The demagraphic out there is not the elderly -- it's middle aged folks who are capable of doing work. The bigger issue is the funding and labor pool that will be necessary to rebuild those homes (if they're rebuilt at all). But I'm in the city, and the hysterical mold-induced apocalypse picture you're painting is just not correct. At all.

I will be happy to be wrong.