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    Parker is better than Murray. Even typical Tony is better than the Murray we saw on Wednesday. It wasn't like DeJounte came it and ran the offense while Tony was away. He, Gay, Manu and Anderson all switched off bringing the ball up the court. In the half-court, even Green did more to get LMA involved than Murray. The team has won games where Gary Neal has started, so the idea that DeJounte has to "lose" the spot from Parker falls flat to me. I'm not even sure that Murray isn't the third PG still.
    I dont trust Tony to stay healthy personally. The more opportunities Dijon has to improve the better he will be when it matters. He has shown enough improvement that I think with continued opportunities he will continue to get better. Specially defensively and running what Pop wants. I have been very critical of him when he’s deserving.

    Tony will be eased in and who knows how he will play b4 he gets injured again. However, off the ball play can be a problem for Dijon if he’s not soothing well when Kawhi gets back and his minutes could diminish as a result. Pop will inevitably play Tony when he’s back but I think Dijon is showing enough to get minutes even when he does.

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    It was the fact.
    So did the emoji make it a fact?

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    So did the emoji make it a fact?
    The fact made it a fact. Do you understand?

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    Ppl have the weirdest arguments here

    Of course parker is better than Murray but Murray is basically a rookie.

    Hes got skills and if he stays healthy he most likely can be a very good player if we are lucky he can even be starting calibre byt thats a long shot

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    Parker is better than Murray. Unless DeJounte completely owns the defensive end, I don't think there's any justification to start him over Tony.
    Bro... Have u seen how bad Tony was last year!? This year he is older and more injured! His time is done

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    porker has been for a couple of years in the regular season and playoffs and is injury prone. Yes he is injury prone. All the ing time. After this injury, he isn't going to be the same or better and he wasn't good to begin with. He is a piece of player now.
    Exactly! Ppl are thinking about the younger Tony... Tony has been really bad on defense, and predictable on offense to where he can't get into the lane, so he half drives, then passes to timmy/LA... But that play doesn't work anymore since he doesn't suck in the defense like he used to... So he passes to an already covered player who then forces a bad jumper... Ppl only look at his barely mediocre stats and not his actual impact on the game... If he starts, we know what our ceiling will be... We took a chance with Tony when he was young and accelerated his growth by starting... Pop needs to do the same with Murray now and put Parker on the bench if we want to progress as a team...

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    Parker still >>>>> than ty mills and mills is a decent nba. Ackup

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    Bro... Have u seen how bad Tony was last year!? This year he is older and more injured! His time is done
    Playoffs last year parker was arguably the second best player on the team

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    I am impressed with Murray'a athleticism, it's great. The coaches need to teach him to dribble lower so he doesn't lose the ball now and then. We don't need another danny green dribbler.

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    Word. Love to crack open a beer with you while you relish mediocrity.
    You don't know the meaning of the word.

    Edit: and yes, we'd probably have a good time, beers in hands...
    I don't doubt that homie.

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    He had a sound game tonight, may have been the best on the court. Hope he keeps this up

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    Playoffs last year parker was arguably the second best player on the team
    he was, but he went up for a simple floater and hurt himself. His body can't keep up with his game

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    Looking good. the assists specially.

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    However, off the ball play can be a problem for Dijon if he’s not soothing well when Kawhi gets back and his minutes could diminish as a result. Pop will inevitably play Tony when he’s back but I think Dijon is showing enough to get minutes even when he does.


    I actually think that it would be easier for Murray to play off of Kawhi when he gets back because Kawhi gets so much attention from other teams. Green's man will stay close, Gasol and Aldridge seem to be alternating between the post and the 3pt line adding additional spacing. He won't be able to do as much in the P&R but seems to have no problem attacking close outs when playing off ball.

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    Let us say DJ plays well. Let's also assume Tony returns to a passable form. What do they do both this season and next? Could they leave DJ the starter, and pair Tony on the bench with Patty if Manu retires? And what to do if he doesn't? I doubt they force Tony to retire if he doesn't want to. I'm sure he'll have the Manu "decision" option, even for a while.

    Even if Parker is slightly better if DJ continues to develop they may make a switch so not to re his development and continue his acclimation with the starters.

    If Gay returns to form, opts out, and signs somewhere else, I wonder if we'd really have a bench of Parker, Patty and Manu at the 1-3 next year? Or is Manu a lock to retire, and Parker effectively his replacement if he loses the starting job. Pop paired Patty and tony quite a lot last year as I recall.
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    Look at this guy. Leave the emojis for your facebook post. Anyone who thinks murray is a legit pg has no concept of the position. He cant initiate the offense regularly, hes sloppy with his ball handling and passing turnovers. His one skill is his ability to attack the rim. He will be good if he learns fundamentals and corrects his highlight mentality. Right now hes a spark player not a core player
    The alternative is a fat, old heroball chucker. The Spurs would be better served sticking with Murray and letting him develop.

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    Parker is better than Murray. Even typical Tony is better than the Murray we saw on Wednesday.

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    The alternative is a fat, old heroball chucker.
    Speaking of Chris Paul, I think you guys won't miss him too much. Team looks good.

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    Speaking of Chris Paul, I think you guys won't miss him too much. Team looks good.

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    Let us say DJ plays well. Let's also assume Tony returns to a passable form. What do they do both this season and next? Could they leave DJ the starter, and pair Tony on the bench with Patty if Manu retires? And what to do if he doesn't? I doubt they force Tony to retire if he doesn't want to. I'm sure he'll have the Manu "decision" option, even for a while.

    Even if Parker is slightly better if DJ continues to develop they may make a switch so not to re his development and continue his acclimation with the starters.

    If Gay returns to form, opts out, and signs somewhere else, I wonder if we'd really have a bench of Parker, Patty and Manu at the 1-3 next year? Or is Manu a lock to retire, and Parker effectively his replacement if he loses the starting job. Pop paired Patty and tony quite a lot last year as I recall.
    I'd like to keep Dejounte starting. I can't believe he's playing this well compared to the garbage he showed in Summer League. He also wasn't that great in preseason. It's a great thing if he plays best when the lights are on and the game is bigger.

    As for Rudy Gay, man, I think he can be great for the Spurs, especially when Kawhi comes back. I really like what I'm seeing from him so far. I hope he reaches his potential here. I also wouldn't want him opting out and bolting if he does as well as I believe he can.

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    In case anyone is wondering, Murray continues to lead the team in many advanced stats, though LMA has passed him up in PER due to usage and VORP due to minutes played. Two games is a more stable sample size, but we'll need five or six before we have a better sense of how he's actually playing. Probably by the end of next week.

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    Speaking of Chris Paul, I think you guys won't miss him too much. Team looks good.
    There's definitely been more ball movement and fun without him hogging the ball, tbh. Reminds me of how the Spurs play in the postseason when Porker goes to the bench and his backup checks into the game.

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    I actually think that it would be easier for Murray to play off of Kawhi when he gets back because Kawhi gets so much attention from other teams. Green's man will stay close, Gasol and Aldridge seem to be alternating between the post and the 3pt line adding additional spacing. He won't be able to do as much in the P&R but seems to have no problem attacking close outs when playing off ball.
    The spacing for Kawhi gets complicated so we’ll just have to see how he does.

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    Let us say DJ plays well. Let's also assume Tony returns to a passable form. What do they do both this season and next? Could they leave DJ the starter, and pair Tony on the bench with Patty if Manu retires? And what to do if he doesn't? I doubt they force Tony to retire if he doesn't want to. I'm sure he'll have the Manu "decision" option, even for a while.

    Even if Parker is slightly better if DJ continues to develop they may make a switch so not to re his development and continue his acclimation with the starters.

    If Gay returns to form, opts out, and signs somewhere else, I wonder if we'd really have a bench of Parker, Patty and Manu at the 1-3 next year? Or is Manu a lock to retire, and Parker effectively his replacement if he loses the starting job. Pop paired Patty and tony quite a lot last year as I recall.
    Don’t know about the future but if Dijon is playing well he doesn’t deserve a benching. Pop will figure the minutes out. Tony has been getting injured with such frequency that he should probably start getting his minutes reduced like Manu anyways. Dijon needs to play to continue to progress specially if he continues to show improvement.

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