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Half of that second group has barely played in the NBA (or hasn't at all). Way too soon to make any judgements.
I will say this though: Towns and Wiggins have been underwhelming since joining the league.
1984: James
1985: Paul
1988: Curry, Durant, Westbrook, Love, Rose, Jordan
1989: Harden, Griffin, Butler, DeRozan, Thomas, Whiteside
1990: Cousins, Thompson, Wall, Lillard, George, Walker, Hayward, Green
1991: Leonard, McCollum
1992: Irving, Oladipo
1993: Davis, Beal, Drummond
1994: Antetokounmpo (Greece), Embiid (Cameroon)
1995: Porzingis (Latvia), Jokic (Serbia), Towns (Dominican Republic), Wiggins (Canada)
1996: Simmons (Australia)
1997: Markkanen (Finnland)
1998: Ayton (Bahamas)
1999: Doncic (Slovenia)
The talent level that Team USA has between 1988 and 1993 is just insane. For example players from '88 generation took MVP honors in 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017. They are peaking as the first wave will hit 30 in 2018.
On the other hand Team World has some really special talents going at Russell, Ball, Parker, Okafor, Booker, Fultz, Fox, Tatum, Bamba, Porter, Bagley,...
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Last edited by Jules_Winnfield; 11-07-2017 at 02:52 PM.
Half of that second group has barely played in the NBA (or hasn't at all). Way too soon to make any judgements.
I will say this though: Towns and Wiggins have been underwhelming since joining the league.
Yeah, Towns plays ty defense and Wiggins has a tunnel vision but they are made of steel. They missed one game combined since joining the NBA
Anybody in USA high schools and playing in the NCAA are a product of USA basketball.
Towns was born and raised in NJ. He's 100 percent american So he would be on team USA.
That isn't the right logic.
Nobody from that list will ever play a single game for USA.
Simmons, Wiggins, Giannis, Porzingis, Embiid.
That's a of a team, tbh. And the euro guards that are coming are projected to be better than Simmons and Wiggins.
Horrible spacing from Simmons-Wiggins-AntetokounmpoThe defense would be spectacular though.
Ntilikina, Doncic, Antetokounmpo, Porzingis, Embiid
I think this lineup would work perfectly.
Or:
Schroder, Wiggins, Simmons, Markkanen, Jokic
Lots of talent right there.
Doesn't matter, they're mostly a product of USA basketball and their success will have nothing to do with their nationality. USA isn't a race, it's a nation and it is a nation which fosters the best basketball players in the world - head & shoulders over euroleague.
Making a NBA superstar from a tall and athletic black man like James or Durant isn't rocket science.
Kyle Singler, Stauskas, Plumlee Bros, Parsons, Dougie McDermott vs. Porzingis, Markkanen, Jokic, Doncic
Looks like their succes has A LOT to do with their nationality and talent.
Where you were born doesn't matter, where your game is fostered matters.
Towns playing for DR doesn't change that he's a product if American basketball.
You don't understand what I'm trying to say. Towns is a talented man and he would succeed in USA, Europe or on Mars.
Last edited by Jules_Winnfield; 11-08-2017 at 05:16 AM.
His success has nothing to do with claiming allegiance to the Dominican Republic.
Lefty with the empty emoji post, per par
US college ball sucks ass on basketball fundamentals and player development, tbh.
That garbage is straight up unwatchable tbhUS college ball sucks ass on basketball fundamentals and player development, tbh.
Beats the ty La ligaUS college ball sucks ass on basketball fundamentals and player development, tbh.
Antetokounmpo 40 pts (16-21) / 9 rebs / 4 blocks
Porzingis 28 pts (10-15) / 5 rebs / 3 blocks
Jokic 41 pts (16-25) / 12 rebs / 2 blocks
22 years old and already superstars
Struggling with fundamentals (Towns defense, Wiggins passing, Simmons jumpshot) or injuries (Embiid and Simmons missing a ton of games). NCAA is actually affecting players with superstar potential in a negative way.
Yet USA basketball pushes forward consistent talent, outside usa just exceptions.
USA just has WAY more physically gifted prospects. Zero white players made from a pool of 235 million people.
France, Canada, Spain and Germany are the ones that matter because they invest in basketball others just don't care and will give you few exceptions like Towns, Horford, Nene, Barbosa, Deng, Gordon,....
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