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    National level GOP congress people are bailing in unusual numbers, meaning that the GOP will have primary battles that will likely put some outright nutters on the ballot for Democrats to slam-dunk on.
    But the outright nutter won last time. I remember being in that same mindset as the Dear Leader was closing in on the nomination and then I had to catch myself, knowing Clinton could easily blow it.

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    But the outright nutter won last time. I remember being in that same mindset as the Dear Leader was closing in on the nomination and then I had to catch myself, knowing Clinton could easily blow it.
    The nutter had help.

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    The nutter had help.
    And the Russians are going to stop helping in 2018?

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    And the Russians are going to stop helping in 2018?
    It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.

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    It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.
    Based on what? Coming off his influence in the 2016 election Putin is stronger than ever. Maybe the single most powerful in the world considering he has nukes, can manipulate foreign elections, and rig his own elections. Trump can't get healthcare or most likely tax cuts in his own country. Honestly Putin is the most powerful person in the world probably

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    Democratic turnout inside the state was insane though compared to republican turnout and Dems won seats in Georgia
    The polls were packed, me and my brother went and voted around midday. In Charlottesville turnout was up 31% and went for Northam 84-16.

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    It won't be stopped before 2018. Russia will be crippled as a country before 2020.
    That is just a stupid comment. Please defend that with some kind of substance.

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    Why are republicans acting like Virginia has always voted blue when in fact it's just now starting to happen? Virginia used to be republican stronghold for decades.

    It has leaned blue since Obama won. That's not long at all in terms of voting when you take into account people aren't voting every year.

    It's the same reason why until last night republicans still controlled the house of delegates in Virginia.
    The demo's have changed drastically here. A lot of first generation and second generation Indian Americans immigrated here since around 2000, when I first moved Richmond (a suburb of actually) it had to be more that 90% white then. Its much closer to 50% now and the county is solid blue as opposed to deep red.

    Charlottesville and Northern VA. are both Democratic strongholds and central Virginia is steadily turning blue. In the next ten years it could a deep blue state. The fact that we regained control of the House of Delegates by gaining 16 seats despite gerrymandering that favors the GOP is insane and should be terrifying for Conservatives in the state.

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    That is just a stupid comment. Please defend that with some kind of substance.
    Well, Canada and Lithuania just passed their own Magnitsky Acts and there's talk the EU may follow suit. May see further isolation, but who knows?

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    The nutter had help.
    From the dems who nominated a ty candidate

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    Based on what? Coming off his influence in the 2016 election Putin is stronger than ever. Maybe the single most powerful in the world considering he has nukes, can manipulate foreign elections, and rig his own elections. Trump can't get healthcare or most likely tax cuts in his own country. Honestly Putin is the most powerful person in the world probably
    You are overstating Putins power.

    There is a huge backfire effect in Europe as Russian meddling has become more brazen, and more details come out.

    His military is obsolete, oil is low, US gas exports are killing them, his population is getting older and sicker, educated people are leaving.

    As US companies push LNG exports, his ability to bully the EU diminishes.

    I can provide dozens of links of economic, technological, political, and geopolitical analysis to support this.

    He doesn't have the revenue to fix his military's personnel shortcomings, or build up the kind of technological base to update his military.

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    Our nation has shorted our nuclear arsenal's upkeep and we are still using software loaded on 5 1/4" floppy disks, fer sake.

    The Russians can't even find some of their nukes. I doubt their systems are any better, and almost certainly worse off.
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    The demo's have changed drastically here. A lot of first generation and second generation Indian Americans immigrated here since around 2000, when I first moved Richmond (a suburb of actually) it had to be more that 90% white then. Its much closer to 50% now and the county is solid blue as opposed to deep red.

    Charlottesville and Northern VA. are both Democratic strongholds and central Virginia is steadily turning blue. In the next ten years it could a deep blue state. The fact that we regained control of the House of Delegates by gaining 16 seats despite gerrymandering that favors the GOP is insane and should be terrifying for Conservatives in the state.
    Payback is going to be a when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.

    My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the ers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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    It's definitely not much of a surprise that VA voted for Democrats in the governorship. It's a blue state that Hilary carried. What is pretty shocking is the fact that this was a wave election where the control of the state house may have flipped (or at least ended in a tie) and that the margin was so big. It's not just VA either, as Medicare expansion won in Maine. When you couple that with the record ACA signups, you have a hard time painting a positive picture for Trump. The GOP was feeling OK after the special elections that they carried recently (Georgia, for example) but those were extremely favorable GOP locations. What happened in VA today was Democratic pickups in the statehouse unlike anything seen in over 100 years which includes places that have long been held by the GOP.

    Of course the GOP will try to spin it, but the magnitude of the loss for them tonight is pretty much worst case scenario.
    Fox is going to have to find a lot more emoji-based news.

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    Payback is going to be a when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.

    My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the ers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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    I view it as a good thing, tbh. The GOP has mastered the art of Gerrymandering to stay in power. Unlike the national level, Virginia Democrats have a couple of good candidates upcoming elections 2021 and 2025 (Fairfax- the new Lieutenant Governor, and Mike Signer- the Mayor of Charlottesville). Having good candidates in a state that is trending bluer and bluer and redrawing the districts for the General Assembly could entrench us in power for years to come.

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    "Payback is going to be a when the districts get re-drawn in a few years."

    gerrymandering will get unimaginably worse if the oligarchy's SCOTUS 5 decides partisan gerrymandering is Cons utional, this term.





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    Resident Trump nope Clintlery

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    Outside of the '70s and the '90s, Virginia has always been a purple state at absolute minimum and usually a blue state at the state level:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.6d34915b5e37

    With the population growth in Northern Virginia since the early 2000s, fueled overwhelmingly by Democrat voters, they're a solid blue state now.
    Agreed. Not mention the influx of Asian Americans into central Virginia, which is turning places in that part that were red, blue.

    7 of the past 10 Governors of Virginia have been Democrats (dating back to 1982) with both Senators also being Democrats though it didn't starting voting blue in National Elections until 2008 with Obama after 40 years.

    I think conservatives look at the national elections more instead of looking within the state elections.

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    A black guy from Liberia got elected mayor of Helena MT, 0.62% black, along with progressives sweeping the city council.

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    Well, Canada and Lithuania just passed their own Magnitsky Acts and there's talk the EU may follow suit. May see further isolation, but who knows?

    It's not leaving them "crippled" in 3 years tho. I can't think Liberal Chris has a handle on hyperbole, so I know that wasn't a loose statement.

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    Virginia and New Jersey Elect Governors Totally Lacking Reality-Show Experience



    VIRGINIA AND NEW JERSEY (The Borowitz Report)—Throwing caution to the wind, voters in Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday night overturned the political applecart and chose as their new governors two men with no reality-show experience whatsoever.

    Republican officials were staggered by the voters’ decision because,

    historically, reality shows have been a reliable proving ground for the nation’s finest leaders.

    Ronna Romney McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, said that the voters’ risky bet on two men who had never set foot on a reality-show stage showed that the

    electorate was acting “emotionally and not rationally.”


    “You look at the résumés of these two men and you won’t find ‘Survivor,’ you won’t find ‘Big Brother,’ you won’t find ‘The Bachelor,’ ” she said.

    “What we have are two individuals who are, to put it mildly, unfit for office.”


    “This is not normal,” she said.


    She gave both winning candidates credit for tapping into the angry voters’ anti-reality-show mood, but she warned, “Once these two have been in office, I think

    voters will start longing for someone who had at least won an immunity idol or swallowed a live caterpillar.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/virginia-and-new-jersey-elect-governors-totally-lacking-reality-show-experience



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    Payback is going to be a when the districts get re-drawn in a few years.

    My worry is that the Democrats will not see the harm that stacking and packing did, and simply attempt to do the same to the Republicans that the GOP did to us. While it would serve the ers right, it would also not improve our political landscape in terms of bipartisanship.
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    Bipartisanship will be dead anyways as long as there is a bunch of Koch money funding the GOP. Might as well play dirty like those ers do.

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    Bipartisanship will be dead anyways as long as there is a bunch of Koch money funding the GOP
    The oligarchy is unbeatable. GAMEOVER The Dems are too feckless, leaderless, compromised by BigDonor, to out-krazy the political pricks owned by the oligarchy.

    The oligarchy will have Gorsch, and mabye one or two more on SCOTUS, and 100+ more extreme rightwing Federal judges by 2020 at latest, McConnell's on it, and retain enough House seats to block progressive legislation if they can't keep passing regressive legislation.

    The economy is rigged, and the political class is rigged enough to keep America in permanent decline, and inequality, and as corollary, poverty and near-poverty, will keep increasing.
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    The oligarchy is unbeatable. GAMEOVER The Dems are too feckless, leaderless, compromised by BigDonor, to out-krazy the political pricks owned by the oligarchy.

    The oligarchy will have Gorsch, and mabye one or two more on SCOTUS, and 100+ more extreme rightwing Federal judges by 2020 at latest, McConnell's on it, and retain enough House seats to block progressive legislation if they can't keep passing regressive legislation.

    The economy is rigged, and the political class is rigged enough to keep America in permanent decline, and inequality, and as corollary, poverty and near-poverty, will keep increasing.
    I feel America is going to become a third world country in the next 20-30 years due to the continuation of what you described above.

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    I feel America is going to become a third world country in the next 20-30 years due to the continuation of what you described above.
    not 3rd world, but clearly will be at the bottom, or below, of what's called the "industrial countries"

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    It's not leaving them "crippled" in 3 years tho. I can't think Liberal Chris has a handle on hyperbole, so I know that wasn't a loose statement.
    I guess. The acts probably won't help Russia catch up to Lebanon in per capita GDP at any rate.

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