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    Funny how like to talk about history so much. Unfortunately Nowitzki is now the best power forward. Diop and Dampier are not bench stiffs. They are very active and long. You'll see soon if you didn't see it already in the regular season.
    Yeah right. KG > Dirk.

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    Duncan has 5 MVP trophies, Dirk has 0. Case closed. Manu got more jewelry than Dirk.

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    Live in the present. Thats all I have to say about that.

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    The present? We're the ing defending champs. That's pretty ing "present".

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    The present? We're the ing defending champs. That's pretty ing "present".
    Wurd.

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    The present? We're the ing defending champs. That's pretty ing "present".


    Spurs in 6. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but small-ball makes more sense against this team since Bruce guards Nowitzki so well. Still, the Spurs hand won't be forced by it because Adrian Griffin most likely isn't going to require the defensive attention Bonzi Wells did. If the Mavericks pull Griffin for Stackhouse to try to force the Spurs to pull their bigs, Ginobili will walk all over them.

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    There are a lot of interesting assumptions bandied about in this thread.

    I'd say it's pretty likely to be a fact that if Devin Harris scores 22 in a game, the Mavericks will win. I'd also say that the chances are pretty remote that Harris will consistently come anywhere close to 22 in this series.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that defending Pau Gasol is anything like defending Tim Duncan hasn't been watching NBA hoops for the last couple of weeks.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that the Spurs offense is predicated on Duncan being double teamed also hasn't been watching much recently. Tim makes the offense more efficient when he's doubled because he's probably the best big on the planet at finding teammates out of doubles. Double him and he'll make his teammates better; single him and he'll carry his teammates if need be.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that Tony Parker's scoring is limited to drives also hasn't been paying close attention of late. Tony isn't the greatest shooter from distance and it remains to be seen how his bumps and bruises will affect his jumper, but after the 4th Quarter of Game 5 and all of Game 6 -- not to mention most of the rest of the Sacramento series -- the Kings might differ on the notion that Parker is a one-dimensional scorer.

    I'd say that the Spurs defensive options against Dallas are remarkably more open than many think -- more open than they were against Sacramento. Bowen on Dirk in stretches, but if Howard gets going, Bowen can be switched onto Josh and others can take up the slack on Dirk. Dirk is going to get his pretty much regardless of who defends him.

    I'd also be inclined to say that freed from the straightjacket that is Ron Artest, Manu Ginobili may feel like he's shed 260 pounds.

    This series is going to fascinating to watch, and it will come down to lots and lots of adjustments on both sides. From a personnel standpoint, this matchup appears a much better one for the Spurs than the matchup with the Kings was.

    I think the Mavericks are a great team and I think they are capable of winning this series. But the nonchalant manner in which Mavs fans are dismissing the Spurs is ridiculous.

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    i agree, this is definitely a 6 or 7 game series. not to beat a dead horse, but this should be an epic WCF matchup instead of 2nd round.

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    Live in the present. Thats all I have to say about that.


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    It's b.s. to look to past championships as indicative of anything in this series. The only thing that it could possibly mean is that the Spurs have been in bigger spots than anything they'll be up against in this series. These Mavericks are better than any other Mavs team since 2001 and these Spurs have shown that they aren't always as good as the 1999, 2003, and 2005 teams. Once the ball goes up on Sunday, past les mean relatively little and current rosters and philosophies mean everything.

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    One other thing:

    I'm absolutely certain that Popovich held some concepts back in the last game between these teams in the regular season. He knew, one way or the other, that this matchup was coming and Pop has rarely ever shown all of his cards in a situation like that one. I'd be reluctant to draw much from that game for that reason.

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    Most of you are stupid.

    I ain't saying . Spurs are good. Mavs are good.

    So.

    Spurs in Four!!

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    There are a lot of interesting assumptions bandied about in this thread.

    I'd say it's pretty likely to be a fact that if Devin Harris scores 22 in a game, the Mavericks will win. I'd also say that the chances are pretty remote that Harris will consistently come anywhere close to 22 in this series.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that defending Pau Gasol is anything like defending Tim Duncan hasn't been watching NBA hoops for the last couple of weeks.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that the Spurs offense is predicated on Duncan being double teamed also hasn't been watching much recently. Tim makes the offense more efficient when he's doubled because he's probably the best big on the planet at finding teammates out of doubles. Double him and he'll make his teammates better; single him and he'll carry his teammates if need be.

    I'd say that anyone who thinks that Tony Parker's scoring is limited to drives also hasn't been paying close attention of late. Tony isn't the greatest shooter from distance and it remains to be seen how his bumps and bruises will affect his jumper, but after the 4th Quarter of Game 5 and all of Game 6 -- not to mention most of the rest of the Sacramento series -- the Kings might differ on the notion that Parker is a one-dimensional scorer.

    I'd say that the Spurs defensive options against Dallas are remarkably more open than many think -- more open than they were against Sacramento. Bowen on Dirk in stretches, but if Howard gets going, Bowen can be switched onto Josh and others can take up the slack on Dirk. Dirk is going to get his pretty much regardless of who defends him.

    I'd also be inclined to say that freed from the straightjacket that is Ron Artest, Manu Ginobili may feel like he's shed 260 pounds.

    This series is going to fascinating to watch, and it will come down to lots and lots of adjustments on both sides. From a personnel standpoint, this matchup appears a much better one for the Spurs than the matchup with the Kings was.

    I think the Mavericks are a great team and I think they are capable of winning this series. But the nonchalant manner in which Mavs fans are dismissing the Spurs is ridiculous.

    Great take... I was planning on writing something similar (about Devin Harris scoring 20 4th quarter points) but I decided not to.

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    Assuming you get by the kings what matchups/rotations would you use against the mavs and how could you exploit Dallas?

    well if they get exploited it would be for the mavs' next season opponents because they arent getting by round 2

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    Dallas vs SA - 4 games
    Terry - 14.75 points per game on .461 shooting
    Parker - 21.75 points per game on .627 shooting


    mavsfan1000 once again proving he knows jack. Maybe a hobbled Parker can even things up a bit for your wonder boy Terry.

    Who the heck shoots 62.7% per game?!! Maybe on one fluke game, but not all the time. Michael Jordan didn't even shoot that percentage!! What's the deal about our team has more championships than your team or more hardware than your team, so we will win? It means jack! It took you seven games to get by us last year, or did you forget? And you have more hardware for your current players than we do. And Tim D. Last year he was on the sideline feeling sorry for himself and Popovich was consoling him! Puh- leeze!!

    Let's face it, Sacto surprised you! I didn't see it, but I'm sure you were predicting a sweep on that. Now you are telling the Mavs fans how strong Artest and Wells are and how much respect you have for them. Go ahead, think the Mavs are no good. They may surprise you too, who knows. We think they would be admirable opponents. I hope we get to play them!

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    eh, Sacto surprised no one. Based on the hype, the Spurs would've been lucky to extend the series to 5 before being ousted by the Kings. Now Artest's 3rd personality is consoling his 5th one over the series loss. Frankly, I hope you find that we Spurs fans irritate you. I know nothing amuses me more in this forum than seeing visitors about what you read. This is the internets and there is a nice red X at the top right of the window if we bother you so.

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    I'm sure the spurs are totally focused on the kings but the fans don't have to play the game. I am wasting my time putting out logical threads without stupid responses.
    Then why the do you stick around? You obviously think you are better than everyone in here anyways!

    "This is my house. If you don't like it,get the out! I don't give a !"- Eddie Murphy.

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    What's the deal about our team has more championships than your team or more hardware than your team, so we will win? It means jack![/U][/B] It took you seven games to get by us last year, or did you forget? And you have blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!
    You talk alot of for a fan who's team has only won 3 les since 1990. The Pissed-on's are good, but like the Spurs proved last year they can and will be beat in the playoffs.

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    eh, Sacto surprised no one. Based on the hype, the Spurs would've been lucky to extend the series to 5 before being ousted by the Kings. Now Artest's 3rd personality is consoling his 5th one over the series loss. Frankly, I hope you find that we Spurs fans irritate you. I know nothing amuses me more in this forum than seeing visitors about what you read. This is the internets and there is a nice red X at the top right of the window if we bother you so.

    Yeah, Whatever! Ok, I'll take it down a notch. To me, the conversation offered and the points made are ridiculous at best. After you have read over and over, and over again how the Spurs will win because they have won before and the Mavs have not you gotta wonder about the people offering commentary. It doesn't seem to me that any current status of the Mavericks team has been made, just past ones. You have seen them play this year, I think they are better. More defense and better play. They have given us trouble at times this year, and the Pistons are a good defensive team (at least I think so). The thing that gets wearing on me is the point about how we have won before, so we will win again. The Mavs have not won before, so they will get beat. But if that pushes your buttons, knock yourself out!

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    You talk alot of for a fan who's team has only won 3 les since 1990. The Pissed-on's are good, but like the Spurs proved last year they can and will be beat in the playoffs.

    Why does that matter so much to you anyway? I don't understand the logic that says because we did it in the recent past, we will do it now. Maybe you will, and maybe you won't.

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    Then why the do you stick around? You obviously think you are better than everyone in here anyways!

    "This is my house. If you don't like it,get the out! I don't give a !"- Eddie Murphy.

    I don't think I am better than anyone else, but I think the Spurs fans here do think they are better than everybody else.

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    Duncan has 5 MVP trophies, Dirk has 0. Case closed. Manu got more jewelry than Dirk.
    so are u saying a guy like horry who has multiple championship rings is better than dirk since dirk has 0

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    Make dork work on the defensive end... I don't know how... but I really hate Dork with a passion and would love to see him try to play Defense.

    Maybe keep Duncan in his sweet spot so that Dampier cant hang in the paint, and drive to force Dork to try to block shots..




    But aside from my hatred, I think you should try to push the tempo. I think Dallas will revert to form and play awful D in a high paced game, while the Spurs are able to play defense. Pop seems to like trying half court and full court games series. Last year, for example, he ran with the Suns for pretty much the whole series, but played half court against other teams. He'll probably do his normal routine of pushing the tempo first, and if the Spurs lose 2 games, try the half court focused routine. I think Mavs will die in an up tempo game thoughl.

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    for us to win, beno has to warm up that bench

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    Make dork work on the defensive end... I don't know how... but I really hate Dork with a passion and would love to see him try to play Defense.

    Maybe keep Duncan in his sweet spot so that Dampier cant hang in the paint, and drive to force Dork to try to block shots..




    But aside from my hatred, I think you should try to push the tempo. I think Dallas will revert to form and play awful D in a high paced game, while the Spurs are able to play defense. Pop seems to like trying half court and full court games series. Last year, for example, he ran with the Suns for pretty much the whole series, but played half court against other teams. He'll probably do his normal routine of pushing the tempo first, and if the Spurs lose 2 games, try the half court focused routine. I think Mavs will die in an up tempo game thoughl.
    The reason the spurs were able to run so easily on the suns is because the suns jack up a lot of bad shots which make it easier to fast break. Dallas is more selective so it will probably be more halfcourt.

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