Garbage. Kawhi should always have the green light. He is an ELITE scorer and an ELITE defender on par with the GREATS.
LMA just needs to get his ass down the court, quick as a cat, establish position and let things fall where they may.
And then keep busting his ass on D.
I don't ever want Kawhi feeling like his play is being stunted by that diaper-wipe Aldridge.
because he wasn't being put in his spots.. it's not about how many times he touches the ball, but the positions in which he touches it and the times we call a play that puts him in the proper spot. I think we know him better now, and he knows his role better. I think it will be just fine.
Knows his spots? He had a foul laden James harden in the low post and took a fade away in a playoff game... He is who he has always been
Basically this. Waited too late in the shotclock to give him the ball. Gave him the ball while he was out by the 3 pt line expecting him to manufacture etc. It’s easy to understand
There was no face-saving here. I look at stats all the time. You seem to only be able to cite them, which is why we have to have so many discussions on what the stats actually mean.
It doesn't matter if Kawhi iso's as much as other super stars. My issue isn't with him as an individual player, but with how the Spurs are using him. Isos are what Kawhi does best, but Pop has yet to leverage that into an offense, and Kawhi himself hasn't become predictable passing off his plays, and until he does the other guys will struggle. There's a reason why other guys could shine with Aldridge and Parker but struggle with Kawhi, and it's not because those two are better scorers or because the rest of the team just happened to suck with him at the helm. Looking at one stat won't tell you the reality. However, these are the ORtgs of the team in games in which Parker has played this year:
11/29 -- 119
12/1 -- 107
12/4 -- 101
12/6 -- 131
12/8 -- 116
(Those are truncated, not rounded).
Small sample size and all that, but if you're going to be obsessed with numbers, you can make a very good argument that the offense is performing better with Parker (Mr Bad Offense in your world) than it did in Isopia last year.
That all being said, I loved that ESPN graphic showing LMA's "transformation" where the only numbers that changed were his FGA and PPG.
The big change is that when he has a shorter guy on him he is working on position deep and demanding ball and his team mates are giving him the ball. When you see switches and a Guard is on him U can tell that’s by design which didn’t see much last year.
I don’t see Kawhi having any problems he just wants to win
LMA doesn't just need touches. He needs time with the ball for the play to develop. They'll basically be asking Kawhi to reverse course and play more off the ball.
Well, fortunately Kawhi and LMA don't play in a big market. If they were in Los Angeles, the media would be trying to instigate tension between them over touches.
Yeah, because you come up with conclusions and analysis that don't relate at all with the stats and reality.
The Spurs' offense has been elite the past two years with Kawhi as the number one option.It doesn't matter if Kawhi iso's as much as other super stars. My issue isn't with him as an individual player, but with how the Spurs are using him. Isos are what Kawhi does best, but Pop has yet to leverage that into an offense, and Kawhi himself hasn't become predictable passing off his plays, and until he does the other guys will struggle.
See? This is your problem: you say you check stats but then come up with statements that don't relate to reality at all.
Mmh, what? In what alternative reality of yours does this happen?here's a reason why other guys could shine with Aldridge and Parker but struggle with Kawhi,Because it sure as isn't happening on this universe where the Spurs went from being an elite offense the past two seasons with Kawhi to a below average one without him this season, tbh.
Again, this doesn't happen. This isn't a thing except on your own subjective misguided mind, tbh. That's why you should pay more attention to stats instead of your clearly flawed personal basketball view, tbh.and it's not because those two are better scorers or because the rest of the team just happened to suck with him at the helm.
Enough said. You would rather go with 5 games or the past 4 full seasons?Looking at one stat won't tell you the reality. However, these are the ORtgs of the team in games in which Parker has played this year:
11/29 -- 119
12/1 -- 107
12/4 -- 101
12/6 -- 131
12/8 -- 116
(Those are truncated, not rounded).
Small sample size and all that, but if you're going to be obsessed with numbers, you can make a very good argument that the offense is performing better with Parker (Mr Bad Offense in your world) than it did in Isopia last year.
You had to take days to come up with a response and this weak stuff is all you got to show for?
No, it's because you don't know what the stats mean and just cite them and hope they make you seem smart. I doubt you even bother to look at the math behind the numbers. You just appeal to their authority.
9/30 is not elite. And that's just ORtg. Obviously in ppg they're way down, and that matters when it comes to having to match scores or make up ground.The Spurs' offense has been elite the past two years with Kawhi as the number one option.
No, your problem is you don't know what the stats mean, so you can't make arguments beyond what the numbers tell you.See? This is your problem: you say you check stats but then come up with statements that don't relate to reality at all.
Yes, Patty, Danny and LMA are playing better offense than they were before. You shouldn't need a number to tell you that.Again, this doesn't happen. This isn't a thing except on your own subjective misguided mind, tbh. That's why you should pay more attention to stats instead of your clearly flawed personal basketball view, tbh.
You're the one who acts like the team missing their starting PG should be judged against years of a healthy roster. Of course, the team isn't going to score more reliably when Murray is running the point. But as soon as he got out of the rotation, the team looks good, and that's with them going up against good defenses.Enough said. You would rather go with 5 games or the past 4 full seasons?
Bruh, to be honest, I forgot you had said something until this thread popped back up. It's the same old round and round with you. You misuse stats, I call you on it, you double down. Rinse and repeat. Doesn't matter if it's LMA or Murray or Capela or Parker.You had to take days to come up with a response and this weak stuff is all you got to show for?
Frankly, I don't think LMA touches will be the only thing affected, Pau, Tony, etc. they have to adjust too.
Of course I know what the stats mean. That's why I use them on my anlysis to come up with smart conclusions and provide sensible basketball takes. That's why I'm not known for having re ed takes regarding the game, unlike you.
Where did you get those numbers?9/30 is not elite. And that's just ORtg.
Spurs were 6th in 2017 https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/sta...ate=2017-06-13
And 4th in 2016 https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/sta...ate=2016-06-20
PPG is low for the Spurs becuase of pace. Are you saying that if the offense was centered around a 35 yeard old PG that can't shoot threes and a bigman that needs the ball in the post the pace would be higher than having the offense centered around a dynamic 25 year old wing that shoots 50/40/90?Obviously in ppg they're way down, and that matters when it comes to having to match scores or make up ground.
Again, I'm not the one here that gets mocked for having constant ty takes, tbh.No, your problem is you don't know what the stats mean, so you can't make arguments beyond what the numbers tell you.
So now Aldridge counts as "a guy that shines playing with Aldridge"?Yes, Patty, Danny and LMA are playing better offense than they were before. You shouldn't need a number to tell you that.
Danny is having virtually the same numbers than last season abd Patty is on pace to having one of the worst shooting seasons of his career.
Dude I already told you, check the stats before saying re ed .
Acting as if the Spurs' offense sucking had more to do with missing Parker than missing Kawhi, a ing top 3 guy on the league.You're the one who acts like the team missing their starting PG should be judged against years of a healthy roster. Of course, the team isn't going to score more reliably when Murray is running the point. But as soon as he got out of the rotation, the team looks good, and that's with them going up against good defenses.
Yeah, I'm sure you forgot about a post that several posters quoted to make fun of you.Bruh, to be honest, I forgot you had said something until this thread popped back up. It's the same old round and round with you. You misuse stats, I call you on it, you double down. Rinse and repeat. Doesn't matter if it's LMA or Murray or Capela or Parker.
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The Spurs were a top 5 offense last year with Kawhi as main scorer. Now, they're 18th on offense with LMA as go-to guy.
But one guy here are trying to say they're offensively better this season? Stop lying.
When the truth hurts...
Kawhisos.
A few guys here criticized Kawhi's usage last regular season...Well, LMA has 28 USG%, almost the same usage that Kawhi had but I don't hear those guys saying "is too much" now like they did last season.
I hate people double standards.
What does Patty have to do with anything?
Patty has nothing to do with this son. He will be back to being Batman once Superman returns. I just had to school Chinook.
Ok my nigs.
A collateral damage in DAF-Chinook debate.
Batman and Superman don't necessarily get along.
I think Batman and Superman are Kahwi and Aldridge... with their rivalry going on.
Patty is more like a Robin or Batgirl tbh
Yeah we have to nip this whole myth that Kawhi'isos hurts the offense. Even though he rarely does it and usually is a bail out shot when the offense can't get anything, and is always on point.
So ing triggered.Batman and Superman don't necessarily get along.
I think Batman and Superman are Kahwi and Aldridge... with their rivalry going on.
Patty is more like a Robin or Batgirl tbh
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